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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-10-19 11:16:50
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Wasn't there someone some months ago asking if anybody ever found a "Red Jar" doing chocobo digging skillup?
Who was that?
I just moved to a new area (Rolanberry Fields) and did my daily 200 digs, and found a plethora of Red Jars here.

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Sechs, super quick question for you: Ever dig up a Red Jar?

Trying to put this "test items" nonsense to bed again.
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By LightningHelix 2026-10-19 12:14:31
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Yeah, the question wasn't "can you dig up Red Jar", but "can you go 0-100 without digging up Red Jar"

and now I know you can, because I did (but at the time I hadn't)
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By Phoenix.Darwinion 2026-10-19 12:57:35
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
2. Expend it fully, which should get you a couple hundred marbles

What does "expend fully" mean? I just did a copied maze and got 186 marbles. Killed a diremite as WAR. Fight was cake ofc. Dunno if I'm missing anything.

Thanks for the tips by the way :)
Shame only once per hour, not really the definition of "spam" to me :p
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-10-19 13:01:55
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Expend fully = Use all 5 charges.
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By Moonlightagb 2026-10-19 18:49:55
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Bahamut.Scratch said: »
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If that's necessary to pick up a different shield then that's dumb and should get fixed.

You don't need to drop it. You cancel quest in Jeuno and renounce from guild which effectively stops ability to update (And presumed if you restarted it would go back to stage 1). The NPC tells you shield is not usable but you don't lose KI's and shield still has stat +2 and speed +60. So technically you should be able to have all KI's and shield's in inventory.

Is this saying it's possible to get and keep all the stage 4 incomplete shields because I was under the impression you had to toss them to start over with a new one? Can anyone confirm? Thanks for clarifying as I might be misreading or missed context!
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2026-10-19 19:46:53
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Moonlightagb said: »
Bahamut.Scratch said: »
Shichishito said: »
If that's necessary to pick up a different shield then that's dumb and should get fixed.

You don't need to drop it. You cancel quest in Jeuno and renounce from guild which effectively stops ability to update (And presumed if you restarted it would go back to stage 1). The NPC tells you shield is not usable but you don't lose KI's and shield still has stat +2 and speed +60. So technically you should be able to have all KI's and shield's in inventory.

Is this saying it's possible to get and keep all the stage 4 incomplete shields because I was under the impression you had to toss them to start over with a new one? Can anyone confirm? Thanks for clarifying as I might be misreading or missed context!


Dont they get de-ranked/reset back to square one if you drop guild allegiance?
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By Kayte 2026-10-19 20:33:33
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That's the point some of us are confused on. The wiki says you can't even start a new shield until you drop the old one, that it prevents you from renouncing your rank or taking a new one to 110 until you do. But Scratch was able to quit at stage 4 and not drop it, letting him pick up a new stage 1 and presumably going through all the new stages to finish it instead.

Some other notes is that he did keep his argentum KI, so in theory, if you finished a shield and restarted, even if you do have to drop stage 5s as some weird hardcoded specific, you could in theory collect every argentum and aurum KI. However, his four ROEs were returned to being incomplete as well as hidden, so the four ROEs are mutually exclusive and you'll never have more than 4 of those 32. Titles are very likely the same, I'd assume resetting the shield quest revokes your current one, but I'd need someone who obtained a title and then swapped shields to confirm the NPC data.

It's a bit confusing because now we're not sure where the "you have to drop your shield to start a new one" line came from or how accurate it is. At the very least, Scratch proves you can stop on stage 4 and not have to toss it, or it's possible he avoided the restriction due to taking every rank to Expert first before stopping the quest or something so he never had to after. Or maybe it literally only checks for the finished shield. Or maybe someone made it up entirely.
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By HiPotion 2026-10-19 22:00:10
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for me - i had to drop my stage 1 shield (goldsmith) to start the goldsmith shield quest again. the npc in jeuno kept telling me "drop your shield it's useless now"

so it's probably just checking for your current registered guild shield (since it's a rare/ex) and probably to avoid having multiple progress of same shield.

it takes one brave man to try it (im still grinding GP for my shield)
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By Phoenix.Darwinion 2026-10-20 01:13:10
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
1. Get a copied voucher #09 Revitalization maze from Duplidoc

You'll probably cap out on runes in 1-200 runs (or less, idk).

So I bought Rune #09 from Duplidoc, not done all 5 charges of it yet. I had one run where no runes dropped at all. This right?

What's the MMM Members Card for? I been trading it to the Moblin inside after each fight before exiting, but Wiki has no info on it.

I just been and buying and using the vouchers first to clear that list off. XI checker is showing a maze count of 9/1000. Is this just the number of runs done?
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-10-20 01:42:00
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Phoenix.Darwinion said: »
What's the MMM Members Card for? I been trading it to the Moblin inside after each fight before exiting, but Wiki has no info on it.
I'll explain that to you, it's exclusive to #9.
Basically in 9 you start with just 3 NMs you can pop.
After you popped all 3, there's 3 more. Then after those there's 3 more.
The game doesn't remember if you "unlocked" the latter ones, but it's written in the "card".
If you trade the card to the goblin AFTER killing a NM, the Goblin writes that you killed it on the card.
Then next time if you trade the card to the goblin BEFORE popping the NM, the Goblin will know what you have unlocked and what you haven't, so that when you talk to him and tell him you want to pop a NM, he will offer the full list of potentially poppable NMs.
If you don't, he will only keep offering the initial 3.


Now I ASSUMED that the latter NMs (I always pop the last one, the Thunder based Ixion) give more Marbles but to be fair I'm not really sure they do.
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By Odin.Bangla 2026-10-20 01:55:30
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the NMs all give the same amount, but some are more annoying to kill if you also lock magic and abilities. I just spawn the pudding as its pretty weak with no dangerous moves.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-10-20 02:17:11
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Odin.Bangla said: »
the NMs all give the same amount, but some are more annoying to kill if you also lock magic and abilities. I just spawn the pudding as its pretty weak with no dangerous moves.
The same can be said for the Thunder based Ixion.
With Abilities and Magic locked (they are unlocked in the lobby) I prebuff with all sort of stuff in the lobby as RDM/NIN (mostly haste2, temper2, barthunder, enstone).
Then I engage the mob and it's dead in like... 10 seconds of autoattacks? His high tier spells and attacks won't even break my stoneskin, to give an idea of how much damage he deals lol.
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By Bahamut.Scratch 2026-10-20 08:56:55
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HiPotion said: »
for me - i had to drop my stage 1 shield (goldsmith) to start the goldsmith shield quest again. the npc in jeuno kept telling me "drop your shield it's useless now"

so it's probably just checking for your current registered guild shield (since it's a rare/ex) and probably to avoid having multiple progress of same shield.

it takes one brave man to try it (im still grinding GP for my shield)


That's just it, the npc tells you to drop it because its useless but you are not required to, but i still have a stage 4 shield with stats. I will test today if craft speed still works as testing craft skill + is harder.
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By Carbuncle.Trael 2026-10-20 09:47:40
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It sounds like the folks who designed that whole shield stuff didn't expect us to be this crazy and make all the shields. Per HiPotion's anecdote about dropping and trying to re-obtain the same guild's shield, that seems like it's Working As Intended (TM), but based on what we know so far, there might be a chance. I guess the question is, does completing the shield completely put things into a state where you lose the option to "start over" / acquire a different shield?
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By LightningHelix 2026-10-20 10:20:18
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Bahamut.Scratch said: »
I will test today if craft speed still works as testing craft skill + is harder.
If it's not your "active" 110 craft so you don't care about its skill level, you can use another craft's guildmaster NPC to reset its cap to 70 and then put on the Escutcheon and try to craft something higher than level 97.

"27 levels below" is the threshold for being able to craft, so you can make a 97 at 70 but you can't make a 98 at 70. Gear should change that as far as I know, but I've never tried - someone yell at me if this won't work!
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By Bahamut.Scratch 2026-10-20 10:37:49
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Carbuncle.Trael said: »
rying to re-obtain the same guild's shield, that seems like it's Working As Intended (TM), but based on what we know so far, there might be a chance. I guess the question is, does completing the shield completely put things into a state where you lose the option to "start over" / acquire a different shield?


At any time you can talk to jeuno npc and quit / change shield. At this point there is a difference between stage 5 (Quest completed) and stages 1~4 (Quest in progress).

1. Quest in progress - Jeuno npc tells you to talk to guild as they manage shield quest. Guild allows you to cancel progress and recommends user drop shield. After this point the game removes your completed ROEs and you may start a new shield in Jeuno for any guild you have expert status. (You can get expert status in ALL guilds at same time). I was able to keep shield and it retains stats while starting a new stage 1 shield. Assume you could get all stage 4 shields if one was crazy.

2. Quest completed - Needs to be verified but bg wiki states must toss finished shield, Assume you dont need to go to guild because quest finished and can only reacquire in jueno based on dropping stage 5 shield.
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By Odin.Bangla 2026-10-20 11:33:32
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Odin.Bangla said: »
the NMs all give the same amount, but some are more annoying to kill if you also lock magic and abilities. I just spawn the pudding as its pretty weak with no dangerous moves.
The same can be said for the Thunder based Ixion.
With Abilities and Magic locked (they are unlocked in the lobby) I prebuff with all sort of stuff in the lobby as RDM/NIN (mostly haste2, temper2, barthunder, enstone).
Then I engage the mob and it's dead in like... 10 seconds of autoattacks? His high tier spells and attacks won't even break my stoneskin, to give an idea of how much damage he deals lol.
Yea but going in unprepared to just autoattack it down, Ixion almost killed me with its Shock SPikes...
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By Phoenix.Darwinion 2026-10-20 13:43:29
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I'm still Rank 7, but don't know what is holding me back.

On page 127 Gavroches posted that he dinged Rank 8. His list is only better than mine in a handful of areas. Nothing seems obvious. I'm wondering if any specific quests need triggering, like raising a chocobo or something like that. He does have 2 chocobo racing titles.

My MMM, Campaign and Monstrosity are weak I know.
But they are at least equal or better than Gavroches list (Sorry Gavroches, not picking on you. :p haha he on my server)

Can anyone spot anything obvious?
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By Bahamut.Scratch 2026-10-20 13:56:03
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Phoenix.Darwinion said: »
I'm still Rank 7, but don't know what is holding me back.

On page 127 Gavroches posted that he dinged Rank 8. His list is only better than mine in a handful of areas. Nothing seems obvious. I'm wondering if any specific quests need triggering, like raising a chocobo or something like that. He does have 2 chocobo racing titles.

My MMM, Campaign and Monstrosity are weak I know.
But they are at least equal or better than Gavroches list (Sorry Gavroches, not picking on you. :p haha he on my server)

Can anyone spot anything obvious?


I would start Digging....
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By Phoenix.Joespreadsheet 2026-10-20 13:59:10
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Magic 552/881 is the easiest - go learn those 103 bard songs and the black magic and the summoner pacts. Blue magic is work, obviously, but you can get those numbers up pretty far from NPCs and even-just-Phoenix-AH stock.

"Einherjar titles 1/2" means you're missing level 99 Odin, right? That one's not so bad if you're not totally solo + bring Reraises.

"Nyzul Isle titles 0/1" should be a free one.

Beyond that, looking at the low hanging fruit:
2/3 Stronghold invasion
20 Abyssea titles missing
0/3 Octavien titles (they're for trading rune weapons, you can even make 'em yourself at a Strange Apparatus if you need to)
11 Voidwatch missing (which means no Provenance Watcher clear, and that's like a "real" thing so it probably matters disproportionately, could be wrong) - actually you're low on Atmacites too, so probably wait for the campaign to do this to save yourself having to proc anything outside Provenance
7/30 Conquest Points titles, you must have the points to burn on at least one nation (getting them to first place is the hard part...)
17/30 Walk of Echoes titles might be easy if you have the surged but not the unsurged, or wait for campaign to surge 'em.
2/5 Legion titles (these come from the third wave of monsters in each Hall, so you have to kill 9 monsters total with 1 minute respawns after the two waves you kill, so it's like 10 minutes even undergeared and you're definitely not undergeared) (that said, watch out for Mul - there's a Mantis in the trash and then there's a Botulus as a boss so there's death and charm. fun fun fun.)

That's everything that jumps out at me right away. Check which NM titles you're missing because some are from like 1h repops.

edit: oh yeah start chocobo digging even on a rental because it's a daily grind so you just gotta put the hours in
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By Phoenix.Darwinion 2026-10-20 14:05:35
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I actually stuck the comparisons into Chat GPT and it came out with this:


1. Odyssey Gaol Vengeance (push from 246 toward 390+). This will grant you the biggest jump in rank points.

2. High-Tier Mission Battles (HTMB) Go through the Phantom Gem fights on Difficult/Very Difficult to collect your missing battlefield titles. You are sitting at 8/31 while they have 32/32.

3. Master Levels & Jobs Push a few more jobs to Master status and increase your overall Master Level cumulative pool from 483 up past 550.

4. Atmacite Levels While you have 180 levels, the cap is 600. Keep visiting an Atmacite Refiner to enrich your Atmas when you have spare Voidwatch stones. (Dunno why it picked this againt 22/600)


I'm not sure Bard songs etc. should count, as that means you must level BRD. Mine is level 1, and that would be unfair. Same with other single job spells, like BLU or NIN. White/Black is fair enough.

I have eight jobs at Mlvl 50 and one at 45, all pretty much fully geared. My wardrobes are bulging at 8/8. Most of those jobs (that I don't play that often) have AF, Empy, Relic gears stored on slips. So I don't have any inventory space to seriously level another job.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-10-20 14:17:49
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An actual good use for AI good job

if you have jobs that aren't 99, why. That's super easy point grab.

Bard 99 is 1k skills 100 spells thats a big missing chunk.

Too many people skating on not having their skills cause the lua doesn't track em. If you saw 5k missing points you'd move yo ***.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-10-20 14:27:13
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Omg I'm never gonna finish this, siiiigh, I'm tempted to just move from Sky Blue Racing Silks to Blue Racing Silks to see if that actually proves to be faster, at this level, with the amount of successful digs required for each skillup.
I dare to think how many it would require me past level 90.
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By Evraenatus 2026-10-20 14:37:34
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Phoenix.Darwinion said: »
I actually stuck the comparisons into Chat GPT and it came out with this:


1. Odyssey Gaol Vengeance (push from 246 toward 390+). This will grant you the biggest jump in rank points.

2. High-Tier Mission Battles (HTMB) Go through the Phantom Gem fights on Difficult/Very Difficult to collect your missing battlefield titles. You are sitting at 8/31 while they have 32/32.

3. Master Levels & Jobs Push a few more jobs to Master status and increase your overall Master Level cumulative pool from 483 up past 550.

4. Atmacite Levels While you have 180 levels, the cap is 600. Keep visiting an Atmacite Refiner to enrich your Atmas when you have spare Voidwatch stones. (Dunno why it picked this againt 22/600)


I'm not sure Bard songs etc. should count, as that means you must level BRD. Mine is level 1, and that would be unfair. Same with other single job spells, like BLU or NIN. White/Black is fair enough.

I have eight jobs at Mlvl 50 and one at 45, all pretty much fully geared. My wardrobes are bulging at 8/8. Most of those jobs (that I don't play that often) have AF, Empy, Relic gears stored on slips. So I don't have any inventory space to seriously level another job.

Comparison to my MR8 ding (+ means you're ahead of me, - means you're behind me) and I have a finished crafting shield that isn't marked on the list.

Similar feedback to everyone else: Levelling + combat/magic skills, HTMBs, Campaign Ops and Conquest Point titles should all be big hitters. Maybe a Blue Magic learning spree is in order as well.

(Here's where I find out that I spent a solid week in Abyssea and its contribution was minimal at best >.>)
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By Asura.Spoilt 2026-10-20 16:03:31
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Omg I'm never gonna finish this, siiiigh, I'm tempted to just move from Sky Blue Racing Silks to Blue Racing Silks to see if that actually proves to be faster, at this level, with the amount of successful digs required for each skillup.
I dare to think how many it would require me past level 90.
I'm at 88, and I am getting about 1 skill per day using Blue Silks(campaign on). I usually used Sky Blue outside of campaign, but during the campaign I prefer more digs and more chances at skillups. Still not 100% sure if that is how it works, but I did have 2 skillups in one day yesterday using Blue Silks.
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By Phoenix.Joespreadsheet 2026-10-20 19:50:05
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Sky Blue is way worse, Blue procced so goddamn often for me, I was amazed. Like genuinely floored how much better Blue was.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2026-10-20 22:08:21
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Took me 48 Black Abyssites. I'm glad this grind is over.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-10-21 02:11:52
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My god 38 kills, that's HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2026-10-21 03:15:45
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Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Took me 48 Black Abyssites. I'm glad this grind is over.

Grats... that one... has bad memories for me
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By Leviathan.Jintawk 2026-10-21 03:28:51
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Sterk said: »
Took me 48 Black Abyssites. I'm glad this grind is over.

Grats!

I wonder if filling the rank bar (for all 3 nations) has any effect on mastery rank

Worth doing just to look nice at least

Edit: It is in the packet data btw so could be tracked in xichecklist for completeness sake

https://github.com/Windower/Lua/blob/dev/addons/libs/packets/fields.lua#L3095
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