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On Healing Hands - A Comprehensive WHM Guide (v3)
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By Asura.Buffyslyph 2021-03-04 16:48:58
Anyone know a conserve mp neck item or a conserve mp ring (not mephitas's) that whm can equip?
By Masunasu 2021-03-04 17:02:28
By DaneBlood 2021-03-04 18:40:59
alternative to Reti_Pendant you can use the incanters torque "1% not paying for the spell" in case you already have it.
if not its way faster to just get reti pendant and they are about the same in mp savings
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2021-03-05 00:30:27
If you're a WHM like me who often casts Cure on a full-health person just to get cureskin up, you will heal for 0HP and not get any MP returned. Raetic costs can really hurt then.
This is something I would probably build a swap around based on the targets HP, especially if mana was an issue.
If you are cure-skin bombing though I am going to assume that you have some external sources squaring away your mana or you are meleeing with a yagrush.
Cure skin bombing is actually really efficient MP-wise with a Raetic +1 if you are using Cure 1 since it's already super cheap, and gets really powerful for how much it costs.
Cure 1 with 2 Raetic +1's still only costs 12 MP tops.
I keep Cure 1 cureskin on my tanks as much as possible. Even if I cure for zero it's only 12 MP. Which usually regens back up before the next cast. If I cure for at least 200 HP, it's literally free, zero MP.
Cure 1 with two raetic +1's heals for 410 HP, or 533 HP if you have a +30% Cure received PLD. That's translates into either a 200 HP Stonekin, or a 261 HP Stoneskin respectively assuming you have the Ambuscade cape and +2 Empyrean Body, for like no MP cost most of the time, or very little at most.
That's actually a lot of mitigation if you keep it up full time.
That's not even counting the +44% Conserve MP I have in my cure set, which would drop the average MP that I do spend on it even lower.
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By Asura.Raitoken 2021-03-05 01:25:02
Anyone know a conserve mp neck item or a conserve mp ring (not mephitas's) that whm can equip?
Uhhhh, if you REALLY want to min/max there is this.... https://www.ffxiah.com/item/13565/water-ring#adv
However that's about it.
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By Asura.Buffyslyph 2021-03-05 07:48:45
Piety +3 feet for WS or:
Code feet={ name="Chironic Slippers", augments={'Accuracy+5','Magic dmg. taken -1%','Weapon skill damage +9%','Accuracy+11 Attack+11','Mag. Acc.+14 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+14',}},
By DaneBlood 2021-03-05 08:49:39
You got me so excited for a moment. :D
but iguess it can be tossed in for a Conmp set when below 50% mp... maybe...
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By Ragnarok.Gennss 2021-03-05 11:19:56
I like Hygieia Clogs +1 for my cure set
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By Asura.Raitoken 2021-03-05 11:46:51
You got me so excited for a moment. :D
but iguess it can be tossed in for a Conmp set when below 50% mp... maybe... And on watersday! dont forget that too XD
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 13:43:15
This is my mule Meva set (idle when above 75% mp)
ItemSet 378508
I am looking to see if there is any good replacement for defending ring and /or the shield
By Nariont 2021-03-08 13:51:46
if its just raw meva and you dont care about the -DT losses, Numinous shield +1 has the highest that whm can use, and purity ring is next highest meva in the ring slot
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By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 13:57:39
if its just raw meva and you dont care about the -DT losses, Numinous shield +1 has the highest that whm can use, and purity ring is next highest meva in the ring slot
ThAnk you those are spot on options
I am trying t ocap MDT and enfeeble ressitanse as much as possible i se it way more often that the annoyance is ftom enffebles rather than my whm dying due to distance
Really wish that purity ring had PDT on it though as MDT is capped \
or that they gave genmei shield some Meva/resist
By Nariont 2021-03-08 14:04:02
Unfortunately none that I can see, so just have to weigh that dt loss vs the assumed 25 meva that combo would add.
By eliroo 2021-03-08 14:39:34
Why aren't you just using Bunzi?
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By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 14:58:27
Why aren't you just using Bunzi? Cause I dont have it yet
Anyway, was messing around with an optimal Arise set and im just sharing my set here if anyone could use it
ItemSet 378526
Fastcast: 81 (w/gada 80)
Haste: 27
ConMP: 68 (19% MP reduction)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2021-03-08 15:05:13
ItemSet 377908
This is what I use for raises. I could mainhand and Asclepius if i had one, but meh, not sure how well the healing recast on it stacks with 80% FC.
But, the way is now, it also has 7% OQS too. it also works well as an Utsusemi set since I /nin to everything now.
Ichi goes off so freaking fast with 80% FC.
EDIT: Thinking it over though, you idea going with the FC/Conserve MP route might be better. I may rethink my Raise set a bit later.
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 15:23:28
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
The issue i am seeing is that you are using quickcast which does not have effect in midtcast so you set are losing a lot of its potential
This look more like a fastcast set for precast and not an arise specific set for midtcast
The set I'm showing is for midt set its focucsing and reducing recast time ( to get more people up faster with arise) and then ConMP ( to avoid draining the WHM's MP
80%fast cast = 40% recast reduction
+ 25% hastes puts you at 65% or around only waiting 1/3 of the time
while saving you around 20% of the mp cost (in average)
By Nariont 2021-03-08 15:25:08
the JSE clubs likely your best recast piece unless you're always at capped reduction, which if you are you could slide stuff around for more CMP
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 15:26:18
the JSE clubs likely your best recast piece unless you're always at capped reduction, which if you are you could slide stuff around for more CMP
JSE club ?
By Nariont 2021-03-08 15:28:06
Asclepius, can never remember the name. Path C is -25% healing magic recast
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 15:34:09
Asclepius, can never remember the name. Path C is -25% healing magic recast
ahh I never called them JSE just Dyna weapons and yes that i a sexy club for recast.
now is recast stacked upong the recast affect from fastcast or is it the same 40% limit ?
By Nariont 2021-03-08 15:37:57
Believe it all stacks together to the combined 80% so if you wanna view it vs FC itd be 50 FC on a club in regards to recast
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 15:42:58
Believe it all stacks together to the combined 80% so if you wanna view it vs FC itd be 50 FC on a club in regards to recast
I was more unsure if it broke the 40% max reduction from fastcast
so 80%fastcast = 40% recast + this staff = 65%
if it does that kinda make a huge set change
By Nariont 2021-03-08 15:47:16
yeah, it's seperate in that sense, FC will at max only give you 40% due to the 80% FC cap, -recast, gear haste, magic/job haste, and whatever JA's do the rest but all add up to the total 80% recast cap(90% for sch under celerity with relic boots)
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By eliroo 2021-03-08 15:52:16
That 80m Price tag isn't looking so bad anymore.
By Nariont 2021-03-08 15:54:35
Even if you were on a budget no FC club could beat the NQ/HQ+1, since its still -15% at its lowest
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2021-03-08 15:59:25
So basically, 40% from FC, 25% from Asclepius, 15% from Haste 1. Assuming Asclepius stacks with FC recast only need 10% haste in gear to cap recast.
By DaneBlood 2021-03-08 16:07:47
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »So basically, 40% from FC, 25% from Asclepius, 15% from Haste 1. Assuming Asclepius stacks with FC recast only need 10% haste in gear to cap recast.
25% haste from gear as weel so thats is
40 +15 +25 = 80
no need for haste spell
but may i suggest a cheaper options
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Trial_3493
only 14 Recast though
40+14+25 = 79 one away from cap
ima start making a new set on this staff
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By Shiva.Xelltrix 2021-03-08 16:10:58
Yuck, I'd take the Piety Wand before I'd go down the Trial route personally. Though I guess that's only true because I RP'd my Asclepius in Dynamis rather than buying crystals.
By Nariont 2021-03-08 16:12:50
its a club for starters, not a staff, and even at its weakest form path C is -15%, and keep in mind you still keep your shield slot open instead of what limits you have in grips, such as giucco or clerisy straps. Plus I wouldnt wish magian trails on anyone
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