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By Taint 2020-09-16 13:37:50
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
What's the point of spawning NMs in Sheol?

Zero current point beyond ranking up MM. I do it for fun and do chest runs on my mules.

They could also implement a big FU at the end of this and require MM for something. Like Coalition assignments for Ergon/+1 rings etc.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2020-09-16 13:40:06
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Do NMs drop more hides/feathers/scales or does it literally have zero functional impact?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-09-16 13:42:12
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They have mat drops, but (how to put it without causing the nuh-uh argument) wasted time.

It's what you do if you opened all the boxes and have time to spare waste.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2020-09-16 13:43:22
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I see. Okay, thanks.
 
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By Taint 2020-09-17 11:35:41
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I popped the Hydra last night on MNK (whoops) and he leveled up 3 times in about 14 minutes. The level ups were all pretty close together and then stopped. No idea what triggered them besides possibly time, but the last 30% after the 3rd level up took a very long time and I never saw a 4th level up.

Floor 1 for reference.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2020-09-17 11:51:01
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Does anybody know if Blank Gaze/Dispel or Aura Steal can remove Hydra's physical damage shield?
 
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By Taint 2020-09-17 12:56:54
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If you are doing the Hydra go on a high spike DPS, high att job like DRK,WAR,SAM. My first kill I was using Apoc and it was ~5min ish. The lower your spike DPS the more you stand and hit him for zero. You need to maximize your time between shields.
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-09-17 13:06:40
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It's also heavily luck based on how long it takes, because he can put up a shield even when he's already got one up, for zero vulnerability time. The last time I fought him on DRK he did it six times in a row (and several more shields that aren't on top of each other).
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-09-17 20:24:05
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for sheol C NMs level up triggers another thing to check is things like skillchains and elemental damage, since there are in-game examples of NMs that level up on light skillchains etc.
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By Phoenix.Logical 2020-09-18 10:32:56
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So I have discovered something that I don't think has been gone over. It looks like Level Up can also trigger hate wipe of the top person on the list similar to the SP Ability Usage. Now I don't think this happens every time as I didn't see this happen during my Level Up's today. However, in that case he had already used his SP ability, in this video shown he has not. So my guess is if he Levels Up and has NOT used the SP ability, that's when the hate wipe occurs for the top person on the list. Just speculation though.

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By alamihgo 2020-09-18 20:42:00
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Next question: what floor were you on when you saw behemoth level up? Turtle was on floor 2 for me, only leveled once
Behe was floor 1.

Saw floor 1 Cerb level up this time using COR Savage Blade spam. ~5min in, right after SP expired. NM dead after ~7min.
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By soralin 2020-09-19 04:19:21
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-09-20 12:05:56
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It seems that one of the Moogle Mastery bonuses (perhaps from Sheol C ones?) includes Killer effects.

KingOfHearts starts casting Silena.
KingOfHearts is intimidated by Sylvie's presence.
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By soralin 2020-09-20 13:02:37
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Asura.Geriond said: »
It seems that one of the Moogle Mastery bonuses (perhaps from Sheol C ones?) includes Killer effects.

KingOfHearts starts casting Silena.
KingOfHearts is intimidated by Sylvie's presence.

This is a buff lol
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By SimonSes 2020-09-20 13:09:43
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soralin said: »

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By Shiva.Xelltrix 2020-09-20 13:23:42
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Asura.Geriond said: »
It seems that one of the Moogle Mastery bonuses (perhaps from Sheol C ones?) includes Killer effects.

KingOfHearts starts casting Silena.
KingOfHearts is intimidated by Sylvie's presence.

Are you sure you didn't have Arcane Circle up?
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-09-20 13:26:56
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I don't think I did, because I was fighting Azdaha, but I don't remember what I was fighting before, so I suppose its possible.
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-09-22 17:46:21
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Despite checking for all four known buffs, I was unable to find any sign of Kuk, Fleet-Footed Lokberry, or Azdaha. Either they're bugged, or those three NMs have a different buff from the four we know of.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2020-09-24 10:09:14
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
Oddly enough, slashing seems to work on all or most of them.

Adamantoise has a slashing resistance, and appears to take significantly reduced damage to all elements except Ice (looked like -90% damage). NIN nukes all did 552 free and MB, Hyoton did 4900/22k
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2020-09-24 17:37:49
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The beastmen guarding Halos have also weapon resistances:
Lamias are resistant to slashing.
Mamools are resistant to piercing.
Trolls are resistant to blunt.
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By Asura.Bippin 2020-09-25 15:58:40
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Are maps for C posted somewhere? Don't see them on wiki or here
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By Felgarr 2020-09-26 05:22:15
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I too cannot find Area maps for Sheol C
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2020-09-26 05:27:10
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I forget who made this - maybe Logical? Anyway, here it is. c:
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-09-26 11:52:58
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The Roc fodder in Sheol C is called Nostos Bigbird.

Nostos Bigbird.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-09-26 17:35:33
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Asura.Geriond said: »
The Roc fodder in Sheol C is called Nostos Bigbird.

Nostos Bigbird.

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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2020-09-30 12:46:09
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I think it would be helpful to keep a list of the resistances on NMs, as I am seeing slightly different results than what was originally posted by Papesse. Want to make sure we can cross reference our results and weren't simply seeing things based on buffs/other bonuses or penalties. (Thanks Papesse, updated with your list)

Dabbat al-Ard (Behemoth) - Piercing
Kurmajara (Adamantoise) - Slashing, All elements except Ice
Lotanu (Wyrm) - Piercing Blunt
Asena (Cerberus) - Piercing
Wayra Tata (Hydra) - Blunt
Bygul (Khimaira) - Piercing
Chaos Steward - Piercing

Might be helpful to others, I switch jobs often and always end up popping the NMs with the resistances to the weapon I am using :/. The BG wiki page shows a column for aura (?) but nothing about the weapon/elemental resistances, so someone probably copied the chart from Sheol A. I am not good with editing that page or I would do it myself, if someone wants to include the resistances discovered, the hate reset gimmick, and also what they think possibly triggers level ups, that would be helpful.
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By Taint 2020-09-30 12:58:15
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I've noticed some 0 damage Light SCs. Most recently fighting Bygul.
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