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 Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-29 14:20:06
That info is what I would've given you as well.
In our case we did a 3x KI approach and took us months to beat it, mostly because we met max once per week and each time we had only 3 attempts, with some times 4.
Every new week it was a rough start "warming up" again, sadly.
Took us a long time to learn how to deal with KI2 and KI3 we usually timed out. When we won we had almost 5 mins left lol.
You also want to watch out for Macc- and Mab-. Can probably still win with either of those but it's gonna make it a pain.
This is the setup we used, if I recall:
KI1 - Bring ongo to at least 74% health (Add#1 spawn)
PLD
NIN (Gokotai for SC start, magicburst from behind with Innin)
BST (TP Drainkiss and alternative SC option)
BLU (Entomb and some other spells, will check later, 2nd in damage)
RDM with enspell (first in damage)
SMN (buffs and mb with Titan, out of SC spam Diabolos Nighterror and give AoE Refresh from Aura)
KI2 - Kill one add
WAR (shining one)
DRG (SAM can be an alternative but we had an issue with SAM being dead XD)
GEO (can melee, Add doesn't have weapon type resistances)
WHM
PUP (tanking Ongo far away from everybody else)
Every time Ongo spawns fetters, the debuffs on the add disappears.
KI3 - Kill ongo
RUN (tank with Axe to extend SC, time well Rayke and Gambit)
COR (rolls, quick draw, regain for RUN and himself)
SCH (makes SC, lands a tough Helix, eventually uses SP2 but we didn't do that in the end)
BLM
THF (can extend SC if it gets regain roll with RUN and COR but mostly there to SP2 Ongo's Elemental Sforzo)
BRD (buffs, debuffs and then tank and kite Add#2 FAR AWAY from everybody else, downstairs usually)
That's it? People need to coordinate and get together to be in range for WC altough I feel that's more important in the 2KI setup where you want to reset Boster, but still good even for the 3KI of course
By Taint 2025-10-29 14:47:19
I was in Luna's Ongo group.
We spent a lot of time doing 2KI, I think we even tried 3 KI a time or two.
In the end 1KI was much easier, we could spam it a bunch of times in a row and eventually got the point we could repeat the win even with bad auras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E5hyoflAJE&t=18s
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-29 15:04:15
Our experience, YMMV of course, was that during 1KI attempts we weren't even remotely getting to a time close enough to a kill with better luck on auras.
Actually most times we simply failed because for one reason or another the BRD was getting bad luck and adds coming back at us from downstairs or dying (and/or couldn't make it back up to re-apply Threnody anyway).
That's maybe the main reason why we tried the 3 KIs attempt, we were pissed at adds messing with us. But we were also excited at the idea of trying a less used strategy, with its pros but also its challenges I guess.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-29 15:04:45
NIN (kikoku for SC start, magicburst from behind with Innin)
I don't see the purpose in Kikoku, if you're using this for Blade: Metsu? You can accomplish the same with Blade: Hi and use Gokotai for DW:Regain, otherwise, I don't see how you'll get TP.
Using NIN as the main SC opener for Darkness (you can get +100/tick every 3 seconds, so expect to have TP roughly twice every minute), you can do:
Blade: Hi > (RDM, using his 1000TP from lobby) Chant du Cygne
Blade: Hi > (BLU, using his 1000TP from lobby) Chant du Cygne
Blade: Hi > (BLU) Chain Affinity + Quadratic Continuum
Blade: Hi > (PLD, using his 1000TP from lobby or Shield Mastery) Chant du Cygne
Blade: Hi > (BST, using his 1000TO from lobby or Regain from Gleti's) > Ruinator
MB Night Terror (IMO, seemed to do higher damage than Titan MB)
MB Doton Ni/San (Can put merits into Earth if you want)
MB Entomb with Burst Affinity (very long recast, you could consider dropping 20 seconds from Chain and Burst Affinity by adding 5 merits to BLU Group 1)
Depending on job comps and who is playing what in KI2, you may be able to burn someone's SP (Tabula/Caper/Bolster/Subtle Sorcery/SVCC are necessary for KI2).
You can use a number of Regain+ items to help, if you feel like minmaxing (i.e. PLD can Vim Torque +1 + Reikiko for +40 Regain, BST can idle in Makora Meikogai for group Regain, Frontier Sodas).
This part of the fight is all about doing as much damage as possible to soften it up for KI2, so whatever progress you make will benefit your main fight much more.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-29 15:05:41
Brain Fart, meant Gokotai of course, gonna edit!
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-30 05:16:51
Actually most times we simply failed because for one reason or another the BRD was getting bad luck and adds coming back at us from downstairs or dying (and/or couldn't make it back up to re-apply Threnody anyway).
As the BRD kiting downstairs, having someone upstairs stream on discord their perspective to get HP values and a sense of the pace helped a TON.
You could pop NiTro after you got a lead on the Tulfair, then hermes quencher upstairs to reapply threnody. If your fast enough you could reapply a song too. Depends when you do it. Having Paeons or Minnes on yourself helps of course, giving you the leniency to get hit while downstairs a couple times
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By Bismarck.Radec 2025-10-30 09:04:36
KI1 SMN perspective, I never did as much damage watching for MBs as I did spamming out Night Terror and Somnolence on cooldown.
Somno is a ward pact that does practically no damage, but appears to count to the WS/Pact damage wall and keeps your night terror damage steady.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-10-30 18:03:53
I was in Luna's Ongo group.
We spent a lot of time doing 2KI, I think we even tried 3 KI a time or two.
In the end 1KI was much easier, we could spam it a bunch of times in a row and eventually got the point we could repeat the win even with bad auras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E5hyoflAJE&t=18s
With Ongo I think the only real "you lose" situation is the sub 40% Aura being Magic Acc Down and not getting a 5 or 6 on WC. We've also tried 2 KI's before and it just never worked out well. Ongo isn't really "hard" until the second add / uber regen sub 40% land when you start running short on damage boosting JA's.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-10-30 18:35:19
Double segments campaign next month… I didnt even know we had a campaign for that…..
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-30 19:49:31
It's +50% segments from clicking the vortex at the end, so not quite "double segments"
By Felgarr 2025-10-31 00:26:01
It's +50% segments from clicking the vortex at the end, so not quite "double segments"
No campaign: Total Segs = 5 * reward
Odyssey (NQ) Campaign: Total Segs = 11*reward/3 or 3.6666 * reward
Odyssey+ (HQ) Campaign: Total Segs = 3 * reward
Moar segs. Campaign good.
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Edit:
If you care about the simple algebra needed to calculate segments from the reward amount shown to you when you touch the Conflux at the end of Sheol A/B/C:
I think the past way to calculate this is to say touching the vortex at that normally yields a +25% bonus. So normally, the total segments you've earned is 5 * that number. If you're mathematically inclined, here's a brief derivation:
Apparently next month is an Odyssey campaign not Odyssey+ campaign (so the segment bonus is increasing by 50% (25%*1.5 = 37.5% bonus), therefore:
In an HQ odyssey campaign, SE doubles the reward bonus from +25% to +50%, where we can repeat this derivation:
The total segments earned would be 3 * the reward bonus during this Odyssey HQ campaign.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-31 01:11:54
AI slop aside, this is wrong.
In the past, SE gave 50% bonus to the end reward only (a 10% overall increase in segments for the whole run)
Then, they ran ody+ campaign which doubled the reward at the end (a 20% increase in total segments for the whole run)
Now they're running the first campaign again.
If you have a 10k run before the tag at the end, you'll get 13,750 (10,000+2500+1250)
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By Felgarr 2025-10-31 01:47:21
It's +50% segments from clicking the vortex at the end, so not quite "double segments" This is where I messed up, believing this to be true and I'm honestly not sure.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »AI slop aside Don't be like this. I incorrectly inferred the bonus amount due to poor English word choices by other people. The AI result has been corrected above for the Odyssey NQ and HQ campaigns as you described it.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » this is wrong.
In the past, SE gave 50% bonus to the end reward only (a 10% overall increase in segments for the whole run)
If these two statements are correct, then my now updated calculations are correct.
NQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward BY 50% (25 -> 37.5% segment bonus)
HQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward TO 50% (25 -> 50% segment bonus).
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »If you have a 10k run before the tag at the end, you'll get 13,750 (10,000+2500+1250)
Yes, you are correct. 1.375/1.25 = 1.1 = 10% overall bonus as you mentioned. I've correct my post. (The math was correct for an Odyssey+ campaign, not Odyssey campaign and I misunderstood which was one was being activated next month).
SE's word choices still suck:
But I've updated the wiki so that no one else makes this mistake in the future (or at least, I won't have to commit this memory anymore).
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-31 08:21:56
By Dodik 2025-10-31 08:36:06
Only thing worse than wrong thinking is not even doing any thinking and still being wrong.
By Felgarr 2025-10-31 15:58:22
Only thing worse than wrong thinking is not even doing any thinking and still being wrong.
SE is pretty cryptic in their word choices. Anyone can misunderstand their explanation of segment bonuses, as it's currently written. I was just going post this blurb and say "here's how you express the total segments earned, given the reward number that you see at the end of the run":
No campaign: Total Segs = 5 * reward
Odyssey (NQ) Campaign: Total Segs = 11*reward/3 or 3.6666 * reward
Odyssey+ (HQ) Campaign: Total Segs = 3 * reward
...but I imagine some folks would have wanted a more thorough explanation, so I tried to use ChatGPT. My mistake was taking SE at their word:
Moogle segments acquired will be increased by 50%
This should just be written as:
NQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward BY 50% (25 -> 37.5% segment bonus)
HQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward TO 50% (25 -> 50% segment bonus).
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-31 17:28:33
Moogle segments acquired will be increased by 50%
This should just be written as:
NQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward BY 50% (25 -> 37.5% segment bonus)
HQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward TO 50% (25 -> 50% segment bonus). Your quote from SE is incomplete, which is why you think it's wrong.
Quote: The following changes will be made to the rewards for reaching the Otherworldly Vortex in Sheol A, Sheol B, and Sheol C.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
Bold for emphasis. It makes 100% logical sense, if you read it with your human brain.
I think it is deeply ironic that you claim the problem is SE's word choices while misreading their words. Their words were 100% accurate to the way the bonus works, and explain everything about the bonus in great detail. Yours are twice as long and inject the possibility for confusion, while adding no additional information that couldn't otherwise be interpreted from the original text.
Maybe it will help other people with reading comprehension problems, I'm glad the additional detail is there, but I don't think it's necessary if people bother to actually read the page and use their brains to understand what the words mean, in that order and format.
Unfortunately, when people increasingly just read the Google AI/ChatGPT/CoPilot answer as gospel, we're eroding critical thinking and reading comprehension skills with every passing day.
Sorry that I attacked your favorite co-worker.
The AI is the co-worker in this reference, in case it wasn't clear enough.
By Felgarr 2025-10-31 17:54:08
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Quote: The following changes will be made to the rewards for reaching the Otherworldly Vortex in Sheol A, Sheol B, and Sheol C.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
Bold for emphasis. It makes 100% logical sense, if you read it with your human brain.
Following this train of thought: you get 0 job points for touching the Vortex and if that's doubled, it's still zero. :)
The statement and the bullet points are a little incongruent. SE's translations are insane, and we don't have to be.
This is my grocery list:
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Moogle segments acquired will be increased by 50%
This should just be written as:
NQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward for touching the Vortex BY 50% (25 -> 37.5% segment bonus)
HQ Campaign: SE is increasing the segment reward for touching the Vortex TO 50% (25 -> 50% segment bonus). Your quote from SE is incomplete, which is why you think it's wrong.
Is this better?
Let's not be anti-semantic. Also, no wiki reading/edits after midnight for me. ;)
Edit: We can't even have a decent internet argument anymore because we both spend most of our time in the Edit Post screen. :(
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-31 18:01:13
Following this train of thought: you get 0 job points for touching the Vortex and if that's doubled, it's still zero. :)
I don't understand what you're saying here, but...yes?
If you get 0 JP (because you're capped) then you'll get 0 JP including the +50%. If you do get JP, it will be increased by 50%.
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at, but I don't think it actually causes any problems with the way they laid out their message.
These bonuses apply to the bonus for hitting the vortex:
-50% bonus to JP
-50% bonus to segments
That's it. Whatever JP you would've gotten (0, 5, 10, etc.) will be increased by 50%. Whatever segments you would've gotten (0, 1000, 2500, etc.) will be increased by 50%.
Yes, 50% of 0 is still 0. That's logically consistent with what they wrote.
Edit: We can't even have a decent internet argument anymore because we both spend most of our time in the Edit Post screen. :(
It's definitely a curse I have...happy to hear it's not just me.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-31 18:03:57
Except the initial statement never states a blanket "moogle segments acquired will be increased by 50%", you're inferring that for whatever reason. The initial statement states there will be a change to the reward for reaching the vortex and then lists what the changes are. There is no need to repeat "for touching the Vortex" multiple times when the opening statement states that the campaign changes only apply to the rewards for touching the vortex.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-31 18:05:56
This is direct off the POL page:
Quote: The Great Odyssey Campaign
The following changes will be made to the rewards for reaching the Otherworldly Vortex in Sheol A, Sheol B, and Sheol C.
- Job points earned will be increased by 50%.
- Moogle Segments acquired will be increased by 50%.
- The number of lustreless scale boxes, lustreless hide boxes, and lustreless wing boxes acquired will be doubled.
* The type of item obtained depends on the Sheol entered.
See the bolded part. We already went through this the first time SE added this campaign, and again when they added the +1 version.
There is nothing confusing here unless you are failing to read whats written because you would rather read what you want to read, that likely being "all segments are increased by 50%", or you are just failing to read the conditions and jumping straight to the value changes.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-31 18:33:18
The AI result has been corrected above for the Odyssey NQ and HQ campaigns as you described it.
For the record, I wasn't calling it AI slop because the math was wrong. Frankly, I hardly read it at all.
I said that because it was 10 paragraphs of burning rainforest to do 7th grade math.
Where segs = segments earned during the run
Reward = segs+(segs/4)
Campaign reward = segs+(segs/4*1.5)
Double campaign reward = segs+(segs/4*2)
From this incredibly simple formula, easily derived from SE or the bg wiki, you can figure out anything you want to know about the bonus. No AI needed.
By Shichishito 2025-11-01 03:48:44
One could argue it's the only thing AI is useful for because if you use it for something you don't understand how would you know it isn't just hallucinating?
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By Felgarr 2025-11-01 06:49:36
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »The AI result has been corrected above for the Odyssey NQ and HQ campaigns as you described it. From this incredibly simple formula, easily derived from SE or the bg wiki, you can figure out anything you want to know about the bonus. No AI needed.
We're in agreement. I thought AI might generate an explanation that was easy for other folks to understand. (I did the math myself years ago). Probably not worth it to kill the planet. I'm sorry, Earth. :(
By Lili 2025-11-01 07:34:52
One more day of
Felgarr pls
By Felgarr 2025-11-01 08:07:46
One more day of
Felgarr pls
Don't beg. It's disgusting.
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2025-11-14 20:05:25
All right I have a weird one. By some fluke of fate I ended up on being the best choice to brd ongo v25. I have been hearing from people I trust that they used Antipodes and an enmity set to build hate on brd for the fight. I was just curious if anyone else had hear about this or done something similar? I had no idea items even generated hate and couldn't find much on the wiki. I was just curious about getting more info on the mechanics of how it works.
By YabbaSanjo 2025-11-16 21:04:59
I've seen it in use, and my assumption is that all of these are a factor in its effectiveness:
frequency
no pre/midcast gear
no interrupts
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2025-11-17 14:03:34
I've seen it in use, and my assumption is that all of these are a factor in its effectiveness:
frequency
no pre/midcast gear
no interrupts
Outside of stun songs cant be interrupted anyways but I agree. We cleared it in 6 runs 5 had macc down on einds day, wom the first time we went when it wasnt winds day. But I tried the item trick and it worked really well. Way better hate gain than spamming songs
Hmmm...
Initial Speculations:
Looks like they took components of Walk of Echoes (setting), and Elemental Circles and brought it together.
They must of learned new ideas through the Lilith HTBF and how they can play with those elemental fetters to create unique battlefield environment and apply further stress with them..
Instead of Abyssea, this may be a Walk of Echoes 3.0? Anything iLvl 140+ .. We are ready!
Keep this thread clean, hoping to post critical details and discuss strategies.. Eventually I will create a Node on this with full details.. We can then update BG-Wiki with information that we gather..
Those of you who play on Nasomi.. Please don't post on here, you have a Fafnir to camp.. so get back to work.. This is isn't Bubbly Bernie version 3.0. He will be OG 1.0 forever on Nasomi.. ^_^
Sorry about the delay on updating this as I have been slammed with a lot of work since COVID-19 defense ramp up procedures at my hospital facility.
I have barely had time to update and barely any time to explore this content myself. I appreciate everyone's work so far. I will update this OP Thread with some resources and information that people have found across all servers including videos and screenshots..
Keeping this as a basic vital post highlight source so as new posts with vital information emerges I will just pin it here so it is all in one space and no need to jump around different pages..
To Begin.. The Basic Release Info from SE:
Some First Initial Basic Discoveries:
looks like you enter through Rabao
And you have 30 min to kill a bunch of trash mobs. Probably a boss at the end too.
More Initial Entry Discoveries Pinned:
About to enter Odyssey for the first time.
I'll report back. Setup is PUP, COR, BLU x2, SMN, RDM
Ok, it's looking like they made this content specifically to prevent BLUs from cleaving through this content.
Only main target took full damage. Surrounding targets took 90% reduced damage (main targeet 15k, all others 500 or less)
All mobs can be fully enfeebled (Sleep, Silence, Slow, Para) but standard rules apply for mob types (we saw Skeletons, couldn't Blind them)
I can very easily see a RUN or PLD tank running in and aggroing the group of mobs, with a BRD sleeping them all. 2 DDs kill one by one with proper support. SMN Bloodpacts were doing full damage on single mobs (same rules for BLU applied for SMN when we tried Thunderspark for lulz)
At the end, we found a group of mobs (bats) with a Fetter and a group of untargetable Yagudo. We cleared the bats, then killed the Fetter. Once the Fetter is killed, the Yagudo become targetable. For killing all of the Yagudo, you get 10 Izzat.
In total, we farmed 20 Izzat. We'll try using them tomorrow on boxes, maybe even spawn an NM. After we killed the fetter, a conflux spawned that gave us the opportunity to spawn a monster for 10 Izzat. We were low on time, so we just chose to exit.
Player with Trusts.. First Experience Testimonies:
Went in with trusts. Was able to 1 shot most things with leaden.
Yield: 31 scales and 3 scale boxes (from the chest).
Edit: Chests gave 11, 13 and 16.
More Vital Data Testimonies Discovered:
Random info:
-Killing trash gave izzat and lustreless scales
-Using 10 izzat to pop chest gave 2 scales and a box
-Killing fetter made untargetable yagudo killable, giving 10 izzat killing them all
-Popping NM with 10 izzat from ethereal junction spawned a red morbol that did blood weapon and dropped 2 boxes of scales
-Not sure what items you need to trade to junction to spawn monsters
-Was unable to use the thing at the start after killing fetter/yagudos/morbol, may have to kill all trash? I looked around and missed a pack, timed out before I could kill them all
-Moogle keeps track of trash killed, physis, and chests, and the power of your alter egos while in odyssey (Moogle Mastery)
More Testimonials and Discoveries..
Does anyone know what is needed to clear the RoE for Sheol A?
You need to run (can do on sneak/invi, only trasnparent mobs are true sight/sound) to last floor (A7) using confluxes. On last floor there is Otherworldly Vortex mentioned in RoE quest. You need to touch it (it lets you leave Odyssey too) to complete the quest. Credit for that info goes to Mischief from Bahamut. Here is a video of my first experience with Odyssey:
YouTube Video Placeholder Tried exploring, found more information
- I didn't realize there was a conflux on each floor to move up
- Each floor increases in mob level, capping at 131, and general nastiness of monster family (manticores, giants I remember on last floor)
- Translocators bring you down to previous levels, so the first floor one doesn't work until you find the higher level ones
- One character got stuck on a floor and couldn't move up, nor did they get the RoE objective upon someone else reaching the top
So for soloers, seems like it's best to stick to lower level floor to farm scales, more experienced parties can move up to desired difficulty for more scales. First time in would be best just getting the RoE objective and unlocking translocators.
Initial Video Detailing Climb to 7th floor for easy RoE Completion for Augment Unlock on Gear:
YouTube Video Placeholder
More Info about Moglophone KI's:
Anyways did a solo run this morning and got about 100 scales from just killing trash in first floor. Wondering what others are getting from parting up vs solo.
edit: Also can you hold one Moglophone KI on you, and then have the moogle hold one?
I was wondering this too. I picked up my KI last night and am holding it until later today and going to see if I can run two times in a row.
You can. I used my ki after few hours yesterday and when I checked moogle timer was at 15h, so it was going down while I had KI on me.
More Testimonial Higlights:
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Maybe Mischief will post about it, he figured it out on his mule. I'll try and post what i know, but it seems like we skip everything and just kill the fetters, mobs around the fetters, and sometimes the UNM near the fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »and if u get to the final thing upstairs, personal chest for everyone. Not sure if someone said it already, but you CAN store a KI. So only need to farm every 2 days! I am confused on how people move up using sneak and invisible, in this run I explored everything, vortexes just said "you can't use this yet", or let me summon an NM but never move somewhere else, even after i killed the fetter, all the guards, the NM, opened one chest, and killed about 90% of all the mobs. If anybody can spot where in this video I should have been able to "move up" it would really help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9GhE5nO3I
thanks At the mandies in your run. Just hug left wall and you'll find it. It took me a while to find the first flux as well, but the rest were less "hidden". A video was posted a couple pages ago showing the route.
YouTube Video Placeholder Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »vortexes just said "you can't use this yet" Need to click Shimmering lights for access to some portals or not have aggro iirc. I may be wrong though Bahamut.Lexouritis said: » It rewarded me again with a box + 50k gil.
did u kill a fetter? Seems like 50k per Fetter and 1 box per fetter (per character). The big Box from RoE seems to be just 1 time thing. The smaller boxes seem to be fetter based?
Killing all 4 fetters netted us about ~70 scales per run per person after touching otherworldy vortex.
Edit: With RoE quest being completed in a run, was more like 110-130. So how many scales is it per upgrade? Didn’t see on Bg-wiki and don’t feel like shifting through posts on here. Should be just under 12 stacks to max. Based on scales only being worth 5rp instead of 10 :/ Clip to the top and nab the box, in and out, 5 minute adventure.
For realsies? SE let content like that out after the mass-ban clipping/duping-alex adventures get onto the live server? Thought they learned their lesson since the AMAN trove boxes can't be scouted via Hex IDs. The box he means is the one from completing the RoE once. You can walk to it in 6-7 mins without speed hacks anyway. The big deal about completing the RoE is you can start augmenting your gear at that point. Well if dude already finished a piece few days after update, there isnt much time gate here it seems.
Probably just the appetitizer was released (im on a work trip, cant "enjoy" the new content till weekend...)
He finished because he bought scales or have legion of mules. Regular player with 1 account will need realistically around 10-14 days for one piece farming daily. Traded 5 Emperor arthro shells to vortex (dunno how many it took from inventory, might have only taken 1 of the 5). Summoned Brachys, a crab that had a high ass counter rate and instantly killed me on my thf in one attack round. 500+ damage counters with no DT set. Likely not advisable to spawn mobs solo with trusts. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
~edited phrasing
So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill featers and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 featers solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
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So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill fetters and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 fetters solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming.
I'm not sure if you need to just kill the fetters or the fetters + all the semi-invisible beastmen around the fetters.
It's possible to kill a fetter without aggro from the semi invisible beastmen that are sight aggro like Yagudo and Orcs. I'm assuming Quadav will sound aggro which makes them easier to gather in a group.
On the first day, when I duo'd with my cousin on RUN and me on COR with a THF4 set, we killed 1 fetter but stopped killing the semi-invisible beastmen because they were not dropping anything. Not all of the beastmen aggro'd. Only the Yagudo beastmen that were in sight of us or each other aggro'd us. Care needs to be taken by support in this case as support will get aggro'd if they rush in too early before the tank has claim on everything. These mobs hit very hard.
Definitely go in with at least th4 if solo farming just trash mobs.
Go in with a full, balanced party to maximize drops from fetters. The fetters are easy to kill. The beastmen hit hard and have a little more hp than common trash mobs. Helps to sleep them too as they can easily overwhelm even the toughest of tanks. Me and a group of peeps went in yesterday, to do some testing.
Killing a fetter + beastman group rewards 10 izzat, no special drops were seen, we did not have a thief, just a range using bounty shot.
Gonna test farm some nms tonight. i tried to spawn 1 today with my alt using unity items, turns out 1 is not enough. My second run of this is probably the best I can do.
Went in, killed all normal monsters, Feters and Beastmen, killed all of the Yaguado. I had 20 Izzat, spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob that died in a 4 step SC. This NM used Blood WEapon, the NM I tried yesterday used 100 fists and rek'd me.
I got 90 Izzat from Monsters and 22 from the 2 boxes that I got from NM and a chest I used them on. The only thing I didn't do on Floor 1 was spawn the Junction that said "Item can be used to pop something here" I had 3 Sarama Hides, 2 Thuban Things and neither worked, nor did a combination of them work.
All of my drops were done with TH2 from Gear. Few unanswered questions:
How is the augmentation to Trust power in Odyssey earned? I believe the requirement must be more than simply killing sets of trash mobs and making it to the otherworldly at the end.
Rewards upon reaching end were:
360k gil from a group that killed everything on first floor, 2 NM's popped.
100k gil for solo killing 2 groups (4 izzat) worth of scrubs and reaching end.
On another run I also got 100k gil for solo killing more scrubs (4 sets I think. Seems like the NMs from either spawn point will be one of the 119/122 unity NMs with similar mechanics, but not exactly the same as my morbol didn't go through 3 stages and only did blood weapon. May be a good ideal to either focus on repeatedly killing one to raise its kill count for the moogle or killing all of them at least once. Can't wait for Pandemonium Warden v3 in the future lol Yep. Surprised the hell out of us.
But as I said I was getting 100k for just clearing a couple of easy rooms and heading for the exit solo for the RoE.
Thinking about it, we did a bit more than the first floor full clear on that run, did a second fetter and agon mobs and popped another NM at least. spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob
What method did you use to spawn this nm?
So there seems to be 2 spawn methods, Unity Item (I think 5 minimum) or Izzat once you have killed a fetter.
In terms of the invisible mobs I don't know if its a coincidence or not but every time they have aggro'd they go after my GEO and no other character. Dunno if the bubble is causing something funky to happen.
It should be possible, to kill fetters on all floors + escape as low as 3 man, I cleared everything in my run and had about 3 minutes to spare but a lot of it was goofing about looking at chests etc. I'd say 4 man would be the most optimal though as you can't really AOE.
Only flaw would be is that the fetters on floors seem to be placed randomly so you could get screwed over on travel times but imagine if you wanted to eat some taco's and take that risk you could and do it no probs. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.) Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »My findings thus far:
As stated multiples times already here, you can sneak/invisible to maneuver around the mobs here. However..
The invisible mobs appear true sight and/or sound, so you have to be cautious of them.
Appears that killing fetters gives personal loot. We all got a box.
You can solo for the RoE if you want following the guidlines above.
Competing RoE gives you 1 large box.
Clear is NOT party wide and each person must touch it individually for credit. (Also recieved 60k gil, we cleared 1 fetter/quadavs, and the mob family near it)
Didn't notice until after fetter and invisible mobs were dead, but one or the other gave 10 izzat.
Have tried a few different unity mats for unm 119/122 and traded 5 to pop a NM. NM that spawned was of the same mob family as items traded. Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull and kill regular mobs, until you see opportunity where nothing is close to fetter (there is always a moment when there is max 1 mob close to it at some point). Kill fetter fast (It's easy to kill. One good 2 step SC will kill it), then kill remaining mobs. I wouldn't try to aggro more than few mobs in general when solo or duoboxing, especially if you dont have Malignance set on COR. Something of note to add was that our rng and cor were doing 0 dmg to the fetter from distance and had to move much closer to do any damage. This may relate to how aoe does much reduced damage. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III.
Do you need to touch the flux on the top floor to get the gil? Or when does the gil actually get distributed to you? Yes, you have to leave personally to get it, and as always if other party members are fighting its locked out. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.)
Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull/kill regular mobs with ranged attack. Run in to fetter with max 1 or 2 shadows aggro. Kill fetter > kill the rest. Just look out what you aggro. Aggroing BLM mob that stand close to middle will probably result in mass link eventually. Regular mobs dont link at all, but transparent mobs (before and after killing fetter) do. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Not sure if it was mentioned, but looks like you can't pop the same NM twice from UNM mats in the same run. Popped once on first floor, and later on the 4th floor it gave a message saying we couldn't pop the same NM again. Sharing Shamgi's notes posted in the BST forum for relevant details:
Ok, just went into an Odyssey and discovered some things:
1. You can charm things in there. Things seemed to be fairly simple to charm, and Charm+ gear meant that my dhalmel stayed charmed 15+ minutes.
2.Charmed pets seem to be quite strong. Beyond the normal HP, they seemed to have fairly high damage, hitting other mobs in their own pack for 4-600 a swing, with crits as high as 900. My Dhalmel once used Berserk and those numbers got pretty big, same with their Sound Wave move. My record was a crit for 1500 or so. This is with NQ food and no other pet related buffs. I had one crawler end up at 74% when it killed another crawler in the pack, likely benefiting from all the DA and Haste.
3. Pets seem quite effective at killing the Halos. They hit hard already, but notably, they aggro nothing, not even the Beastmen around the Halos when doing so. The Halo produces a damaging AOE every couple of seconds that was hitting for 200 or so, but the pet, with it's 40k+ HP, doesn't care at all. Indeed, I left the pet to it's own devices and killed other packs with trusts while it worked the halo down itself, which actually seemed quite nice. When it died, the Orcs around it didn't aggro, so it was easy to pull them one by one, as they don't link either.
4. Mob spawns are random, which can hurt this strat, but from two runs a majority of the packs seem charmable, and many of them are often pretty powerful. Given the strat above, I feel like a monk style pet would be best here.
Overall, I'm super interested in trying this with a full group where you can use the pet to deal with adds while you work on a pack yourself and to safely kill Halos while you clear other things.
One issue was Sic, the recast was way worse than I remembered, and my lua isn't set up at all to deal with it. My best guess is to just set up my gearswap to always produce a physical damage set for Sic and then just use pets who focus physical damage with their TP moves. If it's a buff move, then no big deal, if it's physical then it's the right set. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far). Do not link with the Fetter though, found this out by trying to range attack the fetter down, only to realize the fetter is immune to auto-range attacks. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far).
Well its kinda expected. Orc, Yagudo and Goblins are all sight aggro/link. Quadavs are sound aggro/link and it's how they are in Odyssey too. They arent immune to ranged attacks you just need to be stood in the fetter to do damage.
So not immune to ranged attacks, but immune to any attacks from a range. XD As with all farming things it's more efficient to solo, if the kill speed is high, like 119 content. 6 solos have 6x more chances for boxes.
Luck's definitely a factor; and yeah I think solo probably is best.
I think a lot of it has to do with people finding each other, people needing to sneak/invis themselves, and having to stagger the flux (so it doesn't glitch out). Was a lot of wasted time there.
Was just curious if other groups were experiencing it as well. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. As group you are suppose to kill Fetter at floor 1,3,5 and 7 and run to otherworldy vortex at the end. You should get 4 PERSONAL box from otherworldy that way and I think one more personal box from killing beastman kings at floor 7 (they are around Fetter there).
So thats 5 personal chests
At least 40 Izzat to open chests
Probably at least 40 single scales from killing trash around fetters if you take at least TH4 with you.
Small boxes are on avg around 13 scales?
So probably around 70-80 scales at least per person, maybe more if you have time to farm more.
Very good geared solo player on specific job like COR, can get more with luck, but it might be other bonuses from killing fetters and NMs that we might dont know about. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them.
No, you need to kill Fetter AND beastman mobs around it to get credit for personal box at the end and 10 Izzat. I assume you killed only Fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »THF can pick the locks/chests in odyssey, in case no one mentioned, or knows about it yet. However some times mimic will pop out. Unsure how hard they are, as it opens with deathtrap, and his mule has sparks gear (and it got one shot). Credit goes to mischief
"Either gave a 'however it has no effect' message and consumed the tool, opened the chest, or a mimic popped out" I made a quick map of Odyssey to make ease to hit the fluxes.
Etheral Junctions, Fetters and camps change apparently random.
EDIT: all maps have North heading the upper border.
Aegypius NM:
Bird
Popped using 5 Abyssdiver feathers
Uses Broadside Barrage and Damnation Dive
Uses Perfect Dodge at low HP and gains an Encumbrance aura that stays for the rest of the fight Carbuncle.Papesse said: »Beware of the Treant NM Ptelea and its dangerous Leafstorm AoE. Leafstorm is hybrid wind based. It can crit, miss, be absorbed by shadows and Elemental Sforzo. One For All, Gelus Valiance and Baraero substantially reduce damage. As far as getting these telepoints, mentioned on BGwiki's Odyssey page that you're supposed to be able to travel between to get to further levels of Odyssey, does anyone have any info on the requirements to gain access to these? Do you have to kill all of the fetters to go up a floor? Also, has anyone tried going in with a group of six and then disbanding and everyone using their own trusts to expediate the process of both killing enemies on every floor, taking care of all the fetters on a floor and then popping the nm's so that you might progress to these tele-points if those happened to be the requirements? I know some players might have found that they can farm higher amounts of the Lustreless Scales solo rather than teaming up but if you go in with 6 and then make you're own parties with trusts.. and there are multiple telepoints with up to say 15 sets of mobs and fetters then the possibility of having a high return still might be worth it. Another thing i noticed maybe means nothing but i saw some pixels floating out of nowhere that seemed like a mobs name. Maybe a glitch? Or the others maps? Or a random mob?
 I'm sure people regularly killing fluxes/beastmen already knew this, but AoEs that would have hit the untargettable/invisible beastmen will still generate enmity on them, so people should watch for that if they're sleepgaing or horde lullabying fodder. We spawned an NM in today's run.
Brachys: Crab NM (PLD/MNK)
Had a pretty decent (25-30%) Counter rate. Bubble Curtain's Shell effect reduced enspell (RDM with Crocea Mors) dmg to 0 unless it was dispelled. Used Invincible at 25%. Easily landed enfeebles (Slow, Para, Blind, Frazzle, Distract) Pretty easy fight overall.
It was spawned using 10 Izzat after we killed Fetter + Beastmen mobs surrounding it. Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »I have Moogle Mastery III, not sure what's doing it. Status report has:
Nostos killed: 306
Damysus: 2
Salmandra: 2
Cynara: 1
Chests: 3
Seems I ranked up when I killed an Agon Bruiser. The augment system is “tiered”. I’m working on my alts Emeici +1.
Ranks 1-5 give +2 damage. Ranks 6-10 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc. I assume ranks 11-15 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc, +2 crit rate.
That’s a neat way to do it, it incentivizes the more expensive ranks. Just had a bad solo experience... turns our not all popped NM's are soloable. Do not recommend popping the nm's for 10 izzat.
Got a cactus who would constantly triple attack and did 600 normal / 1200 crit per attack round. August got insta-KO then healer then myself within 7 seconds. YouTube Video Placeholder
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