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By Dodik 2025-10-09 05:50:08
Normal big guy wearing high-heels (now you can't unsee it) just takes 25% more dmg than hard guy.
That is all.
Whatever your WS avg is on HM, multiply by 1.25.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-09 05:58:06
So that means a good group kills HM Aminon in under 7mins, wow that's impressive! :-o
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 07:56:24
I've only ever fought HM Aminon so I was wondering, what's the difference between them? Evasion? Defense? HP? What?
I know the very very good killing times for normal Aminon are what, under 5 mins? With an average of probably 6,5 mins?
How slow was your slowest normal Aminon?
And so I can compare, how long do you usually take to kill HM Aminon?
My group is pretty solid but also pretty slow on HM Aminon.
So far our best Aminon was ~ 4:22 from flash to death. We average ~450-5:20 depending on rolls and resets
Hard mode generally adds a minute. I know specifically because we've been doing Hard mode since Sept 26th thru all of October, and we log Every kills DPS/Time to kill/ rolls/ galli earned, etc.
I'm seeing as low as 5:30 and as high as 7, with an average in the 5:45-6:15 range
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I'll say... I've yet to have like a perfect Aminon happen. Double 11's are extremely rare (We dont hold up the run to stand around and force it, we pull and roll while pulling, you get what you get), and when you're generating that much TP so fast, every has to be really dialed in to coordinate drains of it falls apart and you have to tell people to stop or slow down.
Typically the GEO pops bolster once the 5th song goes down after the pally has ran to the corner (we dont use Anchor). None of use use Tinctures anymore... so theres a minor loss there, but maintaining them daily was just too much of a chore. Theres also whether or not people's prishe boots are up or not, and whether people can weave in a volte harness in a timely manner, whether the PLD gets debuffed and can keep 3k tp from Ghatjot for a fat savage before switching to excal.. whether the DNC gets all resets on each random deal, whether the RDM was able to land gravity on Aita with JUST spontaneity and not burn chainspell... all these little nuances add up to time save.
I havnt seen all the stars align, and on our best runs typically Aminon is at around 10% or less when bolster falls off. We have the BRD savage, not mordant. GEO is on lorg mor 5 using judgment. Typically DNC is ~2m, COR ~1m, RDM ~900k, BRD ~750k, GEO ~550k, PLD~350k. These are rough estimations and they all vary around depending on who came to play that day haha
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By Dodik 2025-10-09 07:58:21
Dex cracking that whip like Indiana Jones after a bad night out.
Gotta be pumping a lot of TP into him to get kill times that low.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 08:05:24
Dex cracking that whip like Indiana Jones after a bad night out.
Gotta be pumping a lot of TP into him to get kill times that low.
Hahaha, Literally on the mic, i call out EVERY single drain and identify to the team to slow down or to keep going, and ask when people are slow on them. As long as i'm seeing under 300 drains i'm happy to push hard, and I call for slow down or pause at 350 range. 400-420 is danger zone and if you're unlucky after seeing anything 400+ he could pop.
It's good to know that outside of the petrify, its not too bad to recover from a pop, especially if you have the seal.
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Here's our little custom report from the other day. I removed everyone elses names just because... (Also the formatting didnt translate well pasted here... sorry about that)
[Sortie Report - Wed Oct 8 03:14:02 2025]
Total Gallimaufry: 92,104
Total Old Case +1: 1
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[Defeated Bosses]
Ghatjot
Leshonn
Skomora
Degei
Dhartok
Gartell
Triboulex
Aminon
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[Completed Bonus Objectives]
Ground floor Aurum Chest
Botulus
Naraka
Flans
Naakual sets defeated: 1
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[Party Composition]
PLD (PLD99/RUN58)
GEO (GEO99/DRK58)
COR (COR99/DRK57)
DNC (DNC99/DRG58)
RDM (RDM99/DRK57)
Dexprozius (BRD99/DRK59)
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[Aminon Mode]
Hard Mode
Mesos obtained: 0
[COR Rolls]
Miser's: 5 (Lucky!)
Tactician's: 5 (Lucky!)
Wild Card: 6
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[Aminon Damage Report]
Name Damage Percent
DNC | 2,068,335 | 38.2%
COR | 1,004,274 | 18.6%
RDM | 831,545 | 15.4%
Dexprozius | 692,797 | 12.8%
GEO | 492,777 | 9.1%
PLD | 290,128 | 5.4%
Skillchain (PLD) | 12,309 | 0.2%
Skillchain (Dex) | 10,174 | 0.2%
Skillchain (RDM) | 4,828 | 0.1%
Skillchain (GEO) | 2,881 | 0.1%
Skillchain (DNC) | 896 | 0.0%
Skillchain (COR) | 278 | 0.0%
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[Aminon Weaponskill Averages]
Name WS Avg Count
DNC | 86,082 | 24
RDM | 69,187 | 12
Dexprozius | 53,292 | 13
COR | 47,819 | 21
GEO | 37,892 | 13
PLD | 28,633 | 10
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[Aminon Fight Duration]
5 min 37 sec
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[Extra Notes/Mentions]
Nothing to add
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EDIT: I'm just noticing this is the Odyssey thread? Guess Sechs asked about Aminon in the wrong thread by accident?
By LightningHelix 2025-10-09 08:51:05
EDIT: I'm just noticing this is the Odyssey thread? Guess Sechs asked about Aminon in the wrong thread by accident? this report looks lit, you mind sharing the lua to generate it?
at least I assume you're just running a log-parsing addon, if you're doing something to the actual text file or whatever that's cool too, I'm just a magpie for useful looking code
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-10-09 08:57:49
GEO is on lorg mor 5 using judgment
This is depressing to me. Judgment better than Dagda?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-09 10:25:58
Idk, but I have seen Dagda 4 and it smacks pretty good. But evidently the GEO would know better what the better weaponskill is.
By fractalvoid 2025-10-09 10:35:34
We have the BRD savage, not mordant.
so COR and BRD both Savage, RDM on BlackHalo?
Also, do you have accuracy #s for ppls WS sets? We're using Chaos/Tact atm and your WS avgs still fairly higher than ours.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-09 11:08:29
I guess it depends what value you're WS at. All major WS scale with higher TP, so there is no value in firing right at 1000%. Also, a Wild Card 6 would indicate double Bolster, so 7 minutes of capped attack (they killed it in ~5, but entire fight was completely capped). With higher MLs and riding Aria from a Stage 5 BRD and probably how good his team is, this isn't surprising. And I think Chaos Roll is probably doing absolutely nothing for you if GEO is using Bolster Fury+Frailty and Dia3^, should be capped.
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By Dodik 2025-10-09 11:09:45
That chaos roll is doing nothing with SV songs and frailty on and all the def down debuffs. Even less so with bolster frailty.
Attack cap is attack cap.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-10-09 11:13:24
We have the BRD savage, not mordant.
so COR and BRD both Savage, RDM on BlackHalo?
Also, do you have accuracy #s for ppls WS sets? We're using Chaos/Tact atm and your WS avgs still fairly higher than ours. He has 1774 Evasion, so before potential eva debuffs, you need:
1822 accuracy for 1-handers using ftp-replicating multi-hit WSs
1722 accuracy for 1-handers using single hit or non-ftp replicating* WSs
1814 accuracy for 2-handers using ftp-replicating multi-hit WSs
1714 accuracy for 2-handers using single hit or non-ftp replicating* WSs
*While it may be be feasible to add enough accuracy on your non-ftp rep. WSs to land the subsequent hits, the damage it'd provide is probably not worth the TP it'd feed. It would depend on how coordinated your group is with Absorb TPing.
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By Dodik 2025-10-09 11:25:17
Tbh probably just better to use two madrigals than one madrigal and have to drop a lot of WS dmg for extra accuracy in sets.
SV sword madrigal is an extra 170 accuracy on a capped bard. You don't need that much extra, but adding accuracy in WS sets means you drop quite a lot of dmg.
If you're ML50 with stage5 weapons that will obviously change how much accuracy you need by a lot.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-09 14:05:45
EDIT: I'm just noticing this is the Odyssey thread? Guess Sechs asked about Aminon in the wrong thread by accident? Maaan, that Sechs guy sure is a huge ***!
I mean wtf is he even thinking, posting in the wrong thread?!
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 17:04:35
We have the BRD savage, not mordant.
so COR and BRD both Savage, RDM on BlackHalo?
Also, do you have accuracy #s for ppls WS sets? We're using Chaos/Tact atm and your WS avgs still fairly higher than ours.
Miser's frequency will do much more DPS than Chaos
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 17:25:47
Tbh probably just better to use two madrigals than one madrigal and have to drop a lot of WS dmg for extra accuracy in sets.
SV sword madrigal is an extra 170 accuracy on a capped bard. You don't need that much extra, but adding accuracy in WS sets means you drop quite a lot of dmg.
If you're ML50 with stage5 weapons that will obviously change how much accuracy you need by a lot.
I'm ML 50 BRD, but i'd say most of the team is 42-45.
I dont think you need to tailor your WS sets for more accuracy since our buffs are as follows:
BRD - Songs are always Honor March / Blade / Sword Madrigal / Minuet V / Aria. Make sure Dark Thren II sticks mid pull during NiTro SV, otherwise youll need to marcato it mid fight and it's chaotic.
GEO - Geomancy is GEO Frailty, INDI Fury, Entrust STR > MND (if it's reset). 2 Savages, Black Halo, Judgment AND Knights of Round are All STR/MND and the DNC should be hitting cap without any help. REMEMBER to BoG before you place your bubble, THEN Bolster so when bolster wears off it's still BoG'd.
COR - Rolls are Tact + Miser. He crookeds the Tact, but mainly because he Tact's 1st so that people are generating TP whilst the pull is happening to get more benefit out of it. I'd say you could Crooked miser as well, the differece is very minor. Spam quick draws in STP gear for TP and WS @1k.
RDM - Dia III's (light shot), Frazzle III (for absorbs), Poison II if possible. No Slow No Para intentionally to get him to swing on us more, BRD DNC + COR all on Regal Gloves. RDM spams Impact or Thunder V w/ occult acumen set. Rotate Nuke for TP > Aspir > Absorb, especially under chainspells. I think its also worth dropping Composure after your Debuffs are on... because although it gives like 50? accuracy, you shouldnt need it and the 25% increased cooldown on spells sucks.
Absorb TP sets should be tailored for this fight to be as much Macc as possible while also netting enough fast cast for a 12-14 second cooldown. The lower the better as long as your not resisting. Someone smarter than me may have the numbers crunched, but I believe breakpoint values to aim for in fast cast are 40, 51, 62 and 73.
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By Dodik 2025-10-09 17:48:29
If absorbs are ok geo can WS almost infinitely with impact (acumen) -> ws -> absorb -> aspir3 -> thundara3 (acumen) -> ws -> impact -> absorb etc.
Geo's aspir3 is a long stronger than rdm, they don't run out of mp.
But yeah if you do two madrigals don't need extra accuracy for ws set, that's what I was saying. And also allows for entrust str as you say.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 17:54:02
EDIT: I'm just noticing this is the Odyssey thread? Guess Sechs asked about Aminon in the wrong thread by accident? this report looks lit, you mind sharing the lua to generate it?
at least I assume you're just running a log-parsing addon, if you're doing something to the actual text file or whatever that's cool too, I'm just a magpie for useful looking code
My static m8 made it using data from Scoreboard and other stuff. I'm not smart enough to make add ons
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-10-09 18:46:44
absorb -> aspir3 -> thundara3 (acumen) -> ws -> impact -> absorb
This is the only thing I don't like about what you said. That's too much between the absorbs imo.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-09 19:53:35
It depends on the cadence of other players. I don't necessarily agree to the hard rule of "absorb every 12-14 seconds" no matter what. I've seen dozens of instances where nobody absorbs for at least 5 actions taken vs Aminon and the next absorb is north of 400, because everyone was on cool down from the last set of absorbs, and other instances where 4 absorbs go off at the same time and everyone gets ~80, leading to slower TP gain. It should be pretty apparent with experienced groups if absorbs are too fast or too slow based on how much TP you're getting back, Soo adjust accordingly based on that.
I've found it much easier for people to watch the log and attempt their absorb every 2-3 actions taken against Aminon, as close to 12-14 seconds as you can, but not always immediately at that time. If someone absorbs right before you would have gone, you should dump your TP immediately then absorb right after for a juicy refill. If someone WS before you would have WS, save it and instead absorb his WS (or better, let someone else absorb first, then you WS, then absorb immediately) then WS so timers are synced better and your teammate gets a juicier subsequent absorb. It's a very clever dance, and if people aren't doing it properly, you get uneven absorbs. Well coordinated groups are ones that know the absorb cadence very well, which is what I've seen lead to the fastest kills (not necessarily who WS the most). Whenever we have slow kills, besides pugging someone using the wrong buffs, what leads to slow kills or Aminon getting a move off is almost always incorrect absorb cadence among the group.
What Dodik said is actually exactly how I handle absorbs on GEO, Just with watching in between. Bonus points of you're the first person to use Impact, you can see when it falls off, so you can use absorb str/mind exclusively before impact (it won't work after impact).
Gdi this Odyssey thread
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-09 20:15:50
Other things that really help your Aminon kill speeds:
Using Anchor
Using Timers to track your cooldowns
Using GS to WS from disengaged
Using addons to track the entire party's absorbs
Using JA0Wait
etc, etc, etc.
Oh ***sorry nvm, that's just "quality of life", none of that actually improves your performance.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-09 20:53:26
You're just perpetually unhappy aren't you haha
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-09 21:00:24
I'm sure this is a rhetorical question but in case you're genuinely curious: Nope. I'm perpetually happy, constantly smiling, satisfied, fulfilled, and love my life. I don't see how you could associate a sarcastic remark about a video game with unhappiness, but I guess a lot of people project random thoughts, opinions, and emotions on me that I never say or imply, so I guess it's par for the course. Carry on!
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-10-09 22:07:15
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-09 23:50:10
SV sword madrigal is an extra 170 accuracy on a capped bard. You don't need that much extra, but adding accuracy in WS sets means you drop quite a lot of dmg.
This is incorrect, unless you're running Finale or Lullaby merits. I run Madrigal/Minuet, which means 180 accuracy for SV Sword Madrigal.
By Dodik 2025-10-10 02:17:37
Just ignoring everything male says at this point.
Anyway, what Buukki said. Should be watching other absorbs not just firing spells randomly. Stagger absorbs with other players. Rule of thumb is about 4 tp-feeding actions between an absorb.
Don't absorb if someone else just did it. Likewise don't WS or thundara if there have been 3 other actions without absorbs.
By K123 2025-10-10 05:36:01
I don't know what male is saying but I'm seeing a lot of what I find to be the biggest problem with ffxiah here - making content sound way harder and more complex than it is. You can have everyone spam absorb tp as soon as it's up without acting like it's a science and win every time no problem.
This happens every month with ambu when people make it sound way harder than it is with obscure set ups and plans that once you're experienced with it realise are all ***.
I don't know what this phenomena is but it's like people make things sound harder than that are so they can pretend to themselves that they are "good at" ffxi. It's really not a complex game when everything of mild difficulty is melee burned or cheesed (tp denial, etc).
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-10 06:14:24
I don't know what male is saying but I'm seeing a lot of what I find to be the biggest problem with ffxiah here - making content sound way harder and more complex than it is. You can have everyone spam absorb tp as soon as it's up without acting like it's a science and win every time no problem.
This happens every month with ambu when people make it sound way harder than it is with obscure set ups and plans that once you're experienced with it realize are all ***.
I don't know what this phenomena is but it's like people make things sound harder than that are so they can pretend to themselves that they are "good at" ffxi. It's really not a complex game when everything of mild difficulty is melee burned or cheesed (tp denial, etc).
While a large part of your point is correct, the discussion was about getting a very fast kill. Coordination helps in that regard a great deal when your pushing vast amounts of TP onto the mob at a fast rate, and everyone going simultaneously at once with their drain then waiting 12 seconds with no drains will likely result in a TP move.
While your criticism is that we're overcomplicating it, you're simply oversimplifying it. Spamming drain on cooldown is what I'd say is a good rule of thumb, but identifying when you can hold your drain because someone just did and the number was sub 100, or identifying when everyone drained and too many actions have gone off since, asking the team to stop for another drain, is what makes the team function more cohesively and efficiently.
When you're min/maxxing content these kinds of optimizations are necessary. I'd also counter argue that extremely lax and lower end content like ambuscade is silly to demand high degrees of precision and execution, while one of the premier endgame bosses is a different discussion entirely.
And just because something is very dull in concept to tackle (TP suppression is boring and stupid... I hope they don't do NM's like this anymore), doesn't mean its invalid to push the limit to how well a team can preform that strategy. Of course, it's brain dead to beat aminon... you can easily get a 10min+ kill having the DNC solo DPS and its super chill, everyone spams drain on cooldown, you always suck under 100, there's 0 risk. It's when you have everyone go balls to the wall and you consistently see 200-300 drains because your riding that line, that it's no longer brain dead
By Dodik 2025-10-10 06:17:57
The difference between a 40min HM Aminon kill and a <10min kill is vast.
Both are kills. You can choose what you aim for yourself.
Saying " that's overcomplicated" is the same as saying " I'm happy with 40min kills". That is of course, your choice.
Like I keep having to remind certain people, Sortie Aminon and literally every other content except V25 Odyssey are completely different.
By K123 2025-10-10 06:39:27
The difference between a 40min HM Aminon kill and a <10min kill is vast.
Both are kills. You can choose what you aim for yourself.
Saying "that's overcomplicated" is the same as saying "I'm happy with 40min kills". That is of course, your choice.
Like I keep having to remind certain people, Sortie Aminon and literally every other content except V25 Odyssey are completely different. Yeah, except this is completely unrealistic and has no basis in reality. The difference between spamming as soon as it's up and min-maxing is more like 6-7mins vs 4-5mins at absolute most.
Also I'm not talking about people *** waving about their kill times here, but it is so offputting to read how people on FFXIAH make content sound so hard. The wikis do it too... then when you do them they're embarassingly easy. I'm just saying, don't overegg this ***, because it will put newer people off thinking they can do it.
The ambu situation is the extreme. "hurr durr mah relic nin can do all the skillchains" looool it was just a *** zerg fight if you slept the boss ffs
Hmmm...
Initial Speculations:
Looks like they took components of Walk of Echoes (setting), and Elemental Circles and brought it together.
They must of learned new ideas through the Lilith HTBF and how they can play with those elemental fetters to create unique battlefield environment and apply further stress with them..
Instead of Abyssea, this may be a Walk of Echoes 3.0? Anything iLvl 140+ .. We are ready!
Keep this thread clean, hoping to post critical details and discuss strategies.. Eventually I will create a Node on this with full details.. We can then update BG-Wiki with information that we gather..
Those of you who play on Nasomi.. Please don't post on here, you have a Fafnir to camp.. so get back to work.. This is isn't Bubbly Bernie version 3.0. He will be OG 1.0 forever on Nasomi.. ^_^
Sorry about the delay on updating this as I have been slammed with a lot of work since COVID-19 defense ramp up procedures at my hospital facility.
I have barely had time to update and barely any time to explore this content myself. I appreciate everyone's work so far. I will update this OP Thread with some resources and information that people have found across all servers including videos and screenshots..
Keeping this as a basic vital post highlight source so as new posts with vital information emerges I will just pin it here so it is all in one space and no need to jump around different pages..
To Begin.. The Basic Release Info from SE:
Some First Initial Basic Discoveries:
looks like you enter through Rabao
And you have 30 min to kill a bunch of trash mobs. Probably a boss at the end too.
More Initial Entry Discoveries Pinned:
About to enter Odyssey for the first time.
I'll report back. Setup is PUP, COR, BLU x2, SMN, RDM
Ok, it's looking like they made this content specifically to prevent BLUs from cleaving through this content.
Only main target took full damage. Surrounding targets took 90% reduced damage (main targeet 15k, all others 500 or less)
All mobs can be fully enfeebled (Sleep, Silence, Slow, Para) but standard rules apply for mob types (we saw Skeletons, couldn't Blind them)
I can very easily see a RUN or PLD tank running in and aggroing the group of mobs, with a BRD sleeping them all. 2 DDs kill one by one with proper support. SMN Bloodpacts were doing full damage on single mobs (same rules for BLU applied for SMN when we tried Thunderspark for lulz)
At the end, we found a group of mobs (bats) with a Fetter and a group of untargetable Yagudo. We cleared the bats, then killed the Fetter. Once the Fetter is killed, the Yagudo become targetable. For killing all of the Yagudo, you get 10 Izzat.
In total, we farmed 20 Izzat. We'll try using them tomorrow on boxes, maybe even spawn an NM. After we killed the fetter, a conflux spawned that gave us the opportunity to spawn a monster for 10 Izzat. We were low on time, so we just chose to exit.
Player with Trusts.. First Experience Testimonies:
Went in with trusts. Was able to 1 shot most things with leaden.
Yield: 31 scales and 3 scale boxes (from the chest).
Edit: Chests gave 11, 13 and 16.
More Vital Data Testimonies Discovered:
Random info:
-Killing trash gave izzat and lustreless scales
-Using 10 izzat to pop chest gave 2 scales and a box
-Killing fetter made untargetable yagudo killable, giving 10 izzat killing them all
-Popping NM with 10 izzat from ethereal junction spawned a red morbol that did blood weapon and dropped 2 boxes of scales
-Not sure what items you need to trade to junction to spawn monsters
-Was unable to use the thing at the start after killing fetter/yagudos/morbol, may have to kill all trash? I looked around and missed a pack, timed out before I could kill them all
-Moogle keeps track of trash killed, physis, and chests, and the power of your alter egos while in odyssey (Moogle Mastery)
More Testimonials and Discoveries..
Does anyone know what is needed to clear the RoE for Sheol A?
You need to run (can do on sneak/invi, only trasnparent mobs are true sight/sound) to last floor (A7) using confluxes. On last floor there is Otherworldly Vortex mentioned in RoE quest. You need to touch it (it lets you leave Odyssey too) to complete the quest. Credit for that info goes to Mischief from Bahamut. Here is a video of my first experience with Odyssey:
YouTube Video Placeholder Tried exploring, found more information
- I didn't realize there was a conflux on each floor to move up
- Each floor increases in mob level, capping at 131, and general nastiness of monster family (manticores, giants I remember on last floor)
- Translocators bring you down to previous levels, so the first floor one doesn't work until you find the higher level ones
- One character got stuck on a floor and couldn't move up, nor did they get the RoE objective upon someone else reaching the top
So for soloers, seems like it's best to stick to lower level floor to farm scales, more experienced parties can move up to desired difficulty for more scales. First time in would be best just getting the RoE objective and unlocking translocators.
Initial Video Detailing Climb to 7th floor for easy RoE Completion for Augment Unlock on Gear:
YouTube Video Placeholder
More Info about Moglophone KI's:
Anyways did a solo run this morning and got about 100 scales from just killing trash in first floor. Wondering what others are getting from parting up vs solo.
edit: Also can you hold one Moglophone KI on you, and then have the moogle hold one?
I was wondering this too. I picked up my KI last night and am holding it until later today and going to see if I can run two times in a row.
You can. I used my ki after few hours yesterday and when I checked moogle timer was at 15h, so it was going down while I had KI on me.
More Testimonial Higlights:
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Maybe Mischief will post about it, he figured it out on his mule. I'll try and post what i know, but it seems like we skip everything and just kill the fetters, mobs around the fetters, and sometimes the UNM near the fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »and if u get to the final thing upstairs, personal chest for everyone. Not sure if someone said it already, but you CAN store a KI. So only need to farm every 2 days! I am confused on how people move up using sneak and invisible, in this run I explored everything, vortexes just said "you can't use this yet", or let me summon an NM but never move somewhere else, even after i killed the fetter, all the guards, the NM, opened one chest, and killed about 90% of all the mobs. If anybody can spot where in this video I should have been able to "move up" it would really help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9GhE5nO3I
thanks At the mandies in your run. Just hug left wall and you'll find it. It took me a while to find the first flux as well, but the rest were less "hidden". A video was posted a couple pages ago showing the route.
YouTube Video Placeholder Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »vortexes just said "you can't use this yet" Need to click Shimmering lights for access to some portals or not have aggro iirc. I may be wrong though Bahamut.Lexouritis said: » It rewarded me again with a box + 50k gil.
did u kill a fetter? Seems like 50k per Fetter and 1 box per fetter (per character). The big Box from RoE seems to be just 1 time thing. The smaller boxes seem to be fetter based?
Killing all 4 fetters netted us about ~70 scales per run per person after touching otherworldy vortex.
Edit: With RoE quest being completed in a run, was more like 110-130. So how many scales is it per upgrade? Didn’t see on Bg-wiki and don’t feel like shifting through posts on here. Should be just under 12 stacks to max. Based on scales only being worth 5rp instead of 10 :/ Clip to the top and nab the box, in and out, 5 minute adventure.
For realsies? SE let content like that out after the mass-ban clipping/duping-alex adventures get onto the live server? Thought they learned their lesson since the AMAN trove boxes can't be scouted via Hex IDs. The box he means is the one from completing the RoE once. You can walk to it in 6-7 mins without speed hacks anyway. The big deal about completing the RoE is you can start augmenting your gear at that point. Well if dude already finished a piece few days after update, there isnt much time gate here it seems.
Probably just the appetitizer was released (im on a work trip, cant "enjoy" the new content till weekend...)
He finished because he bought scales or have legion of mules. Regular player with 1 account will need realistically around 10-14 days for one piece farming daily. Traded 5 Emperor arthro shells to vortex (dunno how many it took from inventory, might have only taken 1 of the 5). Summoned Brachys, a crab that had a high ass counter rate and instantly killed me on my thf in one attack round. 500+ damage counters with no DT set. Likely not advisable to spawn mobs solo with trusts. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
~edited phrasing
So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill featers and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 featers solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
~edited phrasing
So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill fetters and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 fetters solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming.
I'm not sure if you need to just kill the fetters or the fetters + all the semi-invisible beastmen around the fetters.
It's possible to kill a fetter without aggro from the semi invisible beastmen that are sight aggro like Yagudo and Orcs. I'm assuming Quadav will sound aggro which makes them easier to gather in a group.
On the first day, when I duo'd with my cousin on RUN and me on COR with a THF4 set, we killed 1 fetter but stopped killing the semi-invisible beastmen because they were not dropping anything. Not all of the beastmen aggro'd. Only the Yagudo beastmen that were in sight of us or each other aggro'd us. Care needs to be taken by support in this case as support will get aggro'd if they rush in too early before the tank has claim on everything. These mobs hit very hard.
Definitely go in with at least th4 if solo farming just trash mobs.
Go in with a full, balanced party to maximize drops from fetters. The fetters are easy to kill. The beastmen hit hard and have a little more hp than common trash mobs. Helps to sleep them too as they can easily overwhelm even the toughest of tanks. Me and a group of peeps went in yesterday, to do some testing.
Killing a fetter + beastman group rewards 10 izzat, no special drops were seen, we did not have a thief, just a range using bounty shot.
Gonna test farm some nms tonight. i tried to spawn 1 today with my alt using unity items, turns out 1 is not enough. My second run of this is probably the best I can do.
Went in, killed all normal monsters, Feters and Beastmen, killed all of the Yaguado. I had 20 Izzat, spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob that died in a 4 step SC. This NM used Blood WEapon, the NM I tried yesterday used 100 fists and rek'd me.
I got 90 Izzat from Monsters and 22 from the 2 boxes that I got from NM and a chest I used them on. The only thing I didn't do on Floor 1 was spawn the Junction that said "Item can be used to pop something here" I had 3 Sarama Hides, 2 Thuban Things and neither worked, nor did a combination of them work.
All of my drops were done with TH2 from Gear. Few unanswered questions:
How is the augmentation to Trust power in Odyssey earned? I believe the requirement must be more than simply killing sets of trash mobs and making it to the otherworldly at the end.
Rewards upon reaching end were:
360k gil from a group that killed everything on first floor, 2 NM's popped.
100k gil for solo killing 2 groups (4 izzat) worth of scrubs and reaching end.
On another run I also got 100k gil for solo killing more scrubs (4 sets I think. Seems like the NMs from either spawn point will be one of the 119/122 unity NMs with similar mechanics, but not exactly the same as my morbol didn't go through 3 stages and only did blood weapon. May be a good ideal to either focus on repeatedly killing one to raise its kill count for the moogle or killing all of them at least once. Can't wait for Pandemonium Warden v3 in the future lol Yep. Surprised the hell out of us.
But as I said I was getting 100k for just clearing a couple of easy rooms and heading for the exit solo for the RoE.
Thinking about it, we did a bit more than the first floor full clear on that run, did a second fetter and agon mobs and popped another NM at least. spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob
What method did you use to spawn this nm?
So there seems to be 2 spawn methods, Unity Item (I think 5 minimum) or Izzat once you have killed a fetter.
In terms of the invisible mobs I don't know if its a coincidence or not but every time they have aggro'd they go after my GEO and no other character. Dunno if the bubble is causing something funky to happen.
It should be possible, to kill fetters on all floors + escape as low as 3 man, I cleared everything in my run and had about 3 minutes to spare but a lot of it was goofing about looking at chests etc. I'd say 4 man would be the most optimal though as you can't really AOE.
Only flaw would be is that the fetters on floors seem to be placed randomly so you could get screwed over on travel times but imagine if you wanted to eat some taco's and take that risk you could and do it no probs. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.) Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »My findings thus far:
As stated multiples times already here, you can sneak/invisible to maneuver around the mobs here. However..
The invisible mobs appear true sight and/or sound, so you have to be cautious of them.
Appears that killing fetters gives personal loot. We all got a box.
You can solo for the RoE if you want following the guidlines above.
Competing RoE gives you 1 large box.
Clear is NOT party wide and each person must touch it individually for credit. (Also recieved 60k gil, we cleared 1 fetter/quadavs, and the mob family near it)
Didn't notice until after fetter and invisible mobs were dead, but one or the other gave 10 izzat.
Have tried a few different unity mats for unm 119/122 and traded 5 to pop a NM. NM that spawned was of the same mob family as items traded. Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull and kill regular mobs, until you see opportunity where nothing is close to fetter (there is always a moment when there is max 1 mob close to it at some point). Kill fetter fast (It's easy to kill. One good 2 step SC will kill it), then kill remaining mobs. I wouldn't try to aggro more than few mobs in general when solo or duoboxing, especially if you dont have Malignance set on COR. Something of note to add was that our rng and cor were doing 0 dmg to the fetter from distance and had to move much closer to do any damage. This may relate to how aoe does much reduced damage. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III.
Do you need to touch the flux on the top floor to get the gil? Or when does the gil actually get distributed to you? Yes, you have to leave personally to get it, and as always if other party members are fighting its locked out. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.)
Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull/kill regular mobs with ranged attack. Run in to fetter with max 1 or 2 shadows aggro. Kill fetter > kill the rest. Just look out what you aggro. Aggroing BLM mob that stand close to middle will probably result in mass link eventually. Regular mobs dont link at all, but transparent mobs (before and after killing fetter) do. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Not sure if it was mentioned, but looks like you can't pop the same NM twice from UNM mats in the same run. Popped once on first floor, and later on the 4th floor it gave a message saying we couldn't pop the same NM again. Sharing Shamgi's notes posted in the BST forum for relevant details:
Ok, just went into an Odyssey and discovered some things:
1. You can charm things in there. Things seemed to be fairly simple to charm, and Charm+ gear meant that my dhalmel stayed charmed 15+ minutes.
2.Charmed pets seem to be quite strong. Beyond the normal HP, they seemed to have fairly high damage, hitting other mobs in their own pack for 4-600 a swing, with crits as high as 900. My Dhalmel once used Berserk and those numbers got pretty big, same with their Sound Wave move. My record was a crit for 1500 or so. This is with NQ food and no other pet related buffs. I had one crawler end up at 74% when it killed another crawler in the pack, likely benefiting from all the DA and Haste.
3. Pets seem quite effective at killing the Halos. They hit hard already, but notably, they aggro nothing, not even the Beastmen around the Halos when doing so. The Halo produces a damaging AOE every couple of seconds that was hitting for 200 or so, but the pet, with it's 40k+ HP, doesn't care at all. Indeed, I left the pet to it's own devices and killed other packs with trusts while it worked the halo down itself, which actually seemed quite nice. When it died, the Orcs around it didn't aggro, so it was easy to pull them one by one, as they don't link either.
4. Mob spawns are random, which can hurt this strat, but from two runs a majority of the packs seem charmable, and many of them are often pretty powerful. Given the strat above, I feel like a monk style pet would be best here.
Overall, I'm super interested in trying this with a full group where you can use the pet to deal with adds while you work on a pack yourself and to safely kill Halos while you clear other things.
One issue was Sic, the recast was way worse than I remembered, and my lua isn't set up at all to deal with it. My best guess is to just set up my gearswap to always produce a physical damage set for Sic and then just use pets who focus physical damage with their TP moves. If it's a buff move, then no big deal, if it's physical then it's the right set. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far). Do not link with the Fetter though, found this out by trying to range attack the fetter down, only to realize the fetter is immune to auto-range attacks. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far).
Well its kinda expected. Orc, Yagudo and Goblins are all sight aggro/link. Quadavs are sound aggro/link and it's how they are in Odyssey too. They arent immune to ranged attacks you just need to be stood in the fetter to do damage.
So not immune to ranged attacks, but immune to any attacks from a range. XD As with all farming things it's more efficient to solo, if the kill speed is high, like 119 content. 6 solos have 6x more chances for boxes.
Luck's definitely a factor; and yeah I think solo probably is best.
I think a lot of it has to do with people finding each other, people needing to sneak/invis themselves, and having to stagger the flux (so it doesn't glitch out). Was a lot of wasted time there.
Was just curious if other groups were experiencing it as well. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. As group you are suppose to kill Fetter at floor 1,3,5 and 7 and run to otherworldy vortex at the end. You should get 4 PERSONAL box from otherworldy that way and I think one more personal box from killing beastman kings at floor 7 (they are around Fetter there).
So thats 5 personal chests
At least 40 Izzat to open chests
Probably at least 40 single scales from killing trash around fetters if you take at least TH4 with you.
Small boxes are on avg around 13 scales?
So probably around 70-80 scales at least per person, maybe more if you have time to farm more.
Very good geared solo player on specific job like COR, can get more with luck, but it might be other bonuses from killing fetters and NMs that we might dont know about. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them.
No, you need to kill Fetter AND beastman mobs around it to get credit for personal box at the end and 10 Izzat. I assume you killed only Fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »THF can pick the locks/chests in odyssey, in case no one mentioned, or knows about it yet. However some times mimic will pop out. Unsure how hard they are, as it opens with deathtrap, and his mule has sparks gear (and it got one shot). Credit goes to mischief
"Either gave a 'however it has no effect' message and consumed the tool, opened the chest, or a mimic popped out" I made a quick map of Odyssey to make ease to hit the fluxes.
Etheral Junctions, Fetters and camps change apparently random.
EDIT: all maps have North heading the upper border.
Aegypius NM:
Bird
Popped using 5 Abyssdiver feathers
Uses Broadside Barrage and Damnation Dive
Uses Perfect Dodge at low HP and gains an Encumbrance aura that stays for the rest of the fight Carbuncle.Papesse said: »Beware of the Treant NM Ptelea and its dangerous Leafstorm AoE. Leafstorm is hybrid wind based. It can crit, miss, be absorbed by shadows and Elemental Sforzo. One For All, Gelus Valiance and Baraero substantially reduce damage. As far as getting these telepoints, mentioned on BGwiki's Odyssey page that you're supposed to be able to travel between to get to further levels of Odyssey, does anyone have any info on the requirements to gain access to these? Do you have to kill all of the fetters to go up a floor? Also, has anyone tried going in with a group of six and then disbanding and everyone using their own trusts to expediate the process of both killing enemies on every floor, taking care of all the fetters on a floor and then popping the nm's so that you might progress to these tele-points if those happened to be the requirements? I know some players might have found that they can farm higher amounts of the Lustreless Scales solo rather than teaming up but if you go in with 6 and then make you're own parties with trusts.. and there are multiple telepoints with up to say 15 sets of mobs and fetters then the possibility of having a high return still might be worth it. Another thing i noticed maybe means nothing but i saw some pixels floating out of nowhere that seemed like a mobs name. Maybe a glitch? Or the others maps? Or a random mob?
 I'm sure people regularly killing fluxes/beastmen already knew this, but AoEs that would have hit the untargettable/invisible beastmen will still generate enmity on them, so people should watch for that if they're sleepgaing or horde lullabying fodder. We spawned an NM in today's run.
Brachys: Crab NM (PLD/MNK)
Had a pretty decent (25-30%) Counter rate. Bubble Curtain's Shell effect reduced enspell (RDM with Crocea Mors) dmg to 0 unless it was dispelled. Used Invincible at 25%. Easily landed enfeebles (Slow, Para, Blind, Frazzle, Distract) Pretty easy fight overall.
It was spawned using 10 Izzat after we killed Fetter + Beastmen mobs surrounding it. Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »I have Moogle Mastery III, not sure what's doing it. Status report has:
Nostos killed: 306
Damysus: 2
Salmandra: 2
Cynara: 1
Chests: 3
Seems I ranked up when I killed an Agon Bruiser. The augment system is “tiered”. I’m working on my alts Emeici +1.
Ranks 1-5 give +2 damage. Ranks 6-10 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc. I assume ranks 11-15 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc, +2 crit rate.
That’s a neat way to do it, it incentivizes the more expensive ranks. Just had a bad solo experience... turns our not all popped NM's are soloable. Do not recommend popping the nm's for 10 izzat.
Got a cactus who would constantly triple attack and did 600 normal / 1200 crit per attack round. August got insta-KO then healer then myself within 7 seconds. YouTube Video Placeholder
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