That Impeachment Thing....

Don't tell me you're still holding onto hope, Chanti. You know he's not leaving office over this. I feel like you're just reading things that reinforce your desire to keep the dream alive and it's probably not healthy.

I hope this article isn't serious. Again, this is why it's nice that much of the inquiry happened in public because none of the stuff in the article had testimony to support it, only against it.

Derogatory name-calling severely weakens your argument, how about we return to the subject of impeachment? The point I made was that regardless of the current state of the economy, that in itself is not a defense to Trump's impending impeachment.

Sums things up quite nicely...and from the passage below it's going to be difficult for Trump to throw Giuliani under the bus, but no doubt he'll try at some point.

Her health is not your concern, but I do agree that the Senate will most likely not remove Trump from office. There are too many party-over-county Republicans that will side with Trump no matter what he did.

Umm no it's not, I read most of it and Jesus that was an annoying read.

Seriously stop listening to paid talking heads, do your own research. That "report" and I use that word very loosely, was just Schiff's staff writing his thoughts onto paper. There is no evidence, it's just people's feelings, or should we bring up phonegate again? No one, at any point in time, could ever, not once, bring up anything the observed the President doing directly that was remotely illegal or even moderately wrong. Yet they all "felt" something was wrong.

Which makes sense when we remember that Democrats think words are violence and feelings are evidence.

lol, here we go with the Biden conspiracies again. The fabricated "Biden corruption" is going nowhere, no one is investigating, no evidence of any wrongdoing has been brought forward, it hasn't affected his campaign at all. And that must really hurt Giulani's feelings, knowing he is under criminal investigation and his entire scheme turned up nothing.

Its been nice to see some Republican senators standing up and shooting down the "Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election" conspiracy that Team Trump has revived. That has been investigated to death and it was still Russia, not Ukraine.

You will never convince them otherwise Kirrek. Vic and Shiroi can absolutely NOT see any differing points of view outside their own narrative. I myself have commented about some of Trumps actions before as not right or he shouldn't have done. These guys 100% could never say a bad word about a dem.

Sad actually.

Yes yes, we have seen this video many times, and guess what? It was fact checked and ruled false. Biden's version of events did not happen. He is puffing up himself too much. So if Biden's account is wrong, the entire Biden corruption conspiracy theory goes down in flames.

Try using actual evidence for once.

Oh you mean like burying a story about a child rape island with connections to prominent Democrats?

Yeah the media is pretty one sided, has been for awhile it's just they no longer even try hiding it anymore. Paid talking heads on TV just tell Democrats and their supporters what to think, and they think it without question.

Look, we know how this will play out.

95% odds the house will impeach and the senate will not convict.

But we can enjoy the show nonetheless. /popcorn

BTW:

Fact-checking House Republicans’ impeachment report defending Trump on Ukraine
Politifact

He didn't.

But I wouldn't fault you much for thinking he did, after all those people on TV told you to think that.

President Trump asked the Ukraine head of state to investigate potential corruption with a well known firm and made an announcement that it was doing so.

This isn't illegal or even slightly wrong, it's actually the right thing to do. That firm has a history of corrupt activities that involved members of *both* parties. Politicians being corrupt isn't anything new and it happens on both sides.

Now can you stop interfering with the 2020 Presidential Elections, why is Canada trying to subvert the Democratic process of the USA?

This is what makes this such a sham... If you cannot see this you are mentally challenged.


We literally do this every damn day regardless of party affiliation... Do you think we give Millions of dollars to foreign countries and not expect something from them?? Every single thing you give someone is in exchange for something. We give you $200mil and for that we expect this..or you do this.. It has been that way since the dawn of time.

Sorry I didn't state this is about Noah Feldman. Quoted from NY Times

There is a case that the house will just vote to censor, because it's the politically convenient and safe solution. If they vote to impeach, along party lines, then the Senate, under the control of the Republicans, can then call their own "witness's" and that starts to get problematic for the Democrats. They can call Eric Ciaramella and all those other "witness's" to testify ~without~ Schiff to run interference. Hell they could call Schiff himself to testify as Schiff was involved with Eric Ciaramella before Eric signed the documents that Schiff's staff wrote. This would be a disaster for the Democrats, even with their Media Industrial Complex running propaganda they won't be able to color it enough to keep the stink off.

This is why you don't try to use Impeachment as a political weapon, the Republicans found out the hard way and I guess it's time for the Democrats to learn it too.

Yes he did. Trump asked the Ukraine President to go on live tv and announce an investigation into the Bidens. Giulani helped with the script. It was supposed to be on CNN. This has been corroborated by many witnesses.

The talking heads on TV told them it was ok, so it must be ok.

1984 is already here.

Yeah, and the Democrats can call their own witnesses in the Senate. People like Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo, Perry, and above all, President Trump. People that are actually relevant to the case. It would be a disaster for the Republicans. Can't wait.