That Impeachment Thing....

No, but that isn’t the point. It just furthers the notion that this whole thing was a coordinated conspiracy to impeach Trump. Although, speaking of crimes, him being the whistleblower could lead to a perjury investigation against Schiff.

Yep, according to the article he discussed how to impeach Trump way back in '17. That's when he must have set into motion his highly organized diabolical super-duper secret plot to frame Trump. He was quite successful, strategically maneuvering all the respective players into place. From government officials in the Ukraine, to US political figures and beyond. He then used his burgeoning telepathic powers to make Trump say things in that telephone call that Trump didn't mean to say at all. He's a crafty on, isn't he?

...or he just overhead Trump being Trump, once again attempting to collude with a foreign government to rig the 2020 election.

Circular reasoning, you've implied guilty within the framing of the question itself. That's like me asking you if your prefer your left or right hand while beating your wife.



That's not what the IG report said, you are either ignorant or lying, probably the prior but given the first statement who knows.

What the IG deemed was that the report wasn't biased or based on complete ***, many of them are. Having had to deal with Inspector General stuff before I actually have first hand knowledge of this works. The IG's job isn't to find a complaint valid or not, they don't have that authority. Instead the IG's job is to determine whether a complaint is initially reasonable or not, meaning is it just someone being petty or could it potentially be real. If it's the first then it immediately gets tossed out and end of story, if its' the second then the details are collected and forwarded to the responsible entity with the IG tracking it. The IG's real job is to track the complaint and ensure it doesn't "disappear", once things hit the IG's office and make it past that first hurdle they are practically impossible to make vanish.

Each department has their own policies that dictate how they handle IG reports, and they are forced to follow them with the IG having visibility so as to prevent any funny business. There are two situations where the IG themselves gets involved, if a report is against a command itself. Meaning if there was a substantiated (that's the legal word for this) IG report against the FBI, the IG wouldn't then send it to the FBI to investigate but rather the parent organization the DoJ. Since the report was against the PoTUS, it's Congress who would get it. Funny how none of the Republicans in Congress were informed, somehow only the Democrats got the report. The second is if the complaint was against a command's process, meaning that the command didn't follow it's own rules and procedures. In that case the IG will do a review of those procedures to see if they were followed and generate a report outlining what was and wasn't followed and recommended corrective actions.

The IG themselves didn't "corporate" anything, that's pure fiction in your feverish TDS mind. They don't investigate whether an alleged event occurred, only if an organization followed documented procedures or not. IG's are not police officers, they don't investigate crimes or abuse of power, they are a watchdogs who report if agencies aren't following documented procedures. Hopefully this will explain the IG's report concerning the FBI's actions earlier in all this. The IG wasn't there to check if the FBI broke the law, only to see if it followed it's own rules and procedures and then generate a report outlining what rules were broken and some corrective actions to prevent those from happening again.

Not like Shiroi or the rest will even bother reading this, it's too long for their 140 character limit minds.

Well Saevel just took all that time to define what credible means, probably wasn't neccessary but oh well. The IG did indeed deem the WB complaint to be credible. Not that the whistleblower complaint even matters, Trump was impeached for running a pressure campaign from May through at least December '19 and illegally blocking funding to the Ukraine. But its still funny to see him cry about the phone transcript.

As an addition to the above here are some real world examples. I've most familiar with military related complains so I'll stick with those, yet this is a universal system and governed by the same sets of laws and regulations.

Solder Joe puts in a leave form for two weeks through his supervisor and it comes back approved. Soldier goes on leave, but when they get back the Battalion Staff Duty doesn't have the form so the soldier can't sign back in. Soldier contacts supervisor and 1st Sergeant about situation. Later Soldier is informed that the leave form was never finished processing and that officially they should of never gone on leave, as they were absent during duty time they are now being charged with an Article 15.

In this situation the Soldier puts in an IG complaint stating that he is being punished for the Battalion's paperwork problem. The IG would review the complaint and validate that the soldier both put in the paperwork, that it was processed through the Company and that the Soldier did show up at the Battalion Staff Duty. After validating these basic facts exist, they will then forward a formal inquiry to the Battalion asking the disposition. 99% of the time this is when ***hits the fan as the Battalion Commander doesn't want that kind of attention. But lets assume this doesn't magically get solved, what happens next is the Battalion answers the questions about it's process's and the IG then forwards it all to the Office of the Brigade or Division Commander for review. The Official IG Report will have the relevant policies cited on the processing of leave forms, what everyone in the process did with those forms and if anyone didn't follow procedure in the chain of custody. The big guys will then review it and ***proceeds to roll down hill.

That's a big extreme as virtually all situations are resolved the moment the IG starts asking questions. Then the IG see's it got resolved and files the complaint away in a place no one even checks unless it happens again.


Now another example, this time in the reverse.

Soldier Joe is off screwing around, as all privates do when is supervisor Sergeant *** arrives and tells them to do something dumb like cleaning an office. Soldier complains (they all do) but cleans the office. The next week the Soldier is again told to clean it, and they complain that they are being singled out and get told to stuff it.

Soldier Joe now files an IG complaint that they are being treated unfairly and singled out, both of these are against unit policy. The IG will receive the complaint and ask the units 1st Sergeant if the soldier was told to clean the office on those two days by the same supervisor and if that supervisor singled out that soldier. The 1st Sergeant would then talk to the Supervisor and find out that Soldier Joe had been seen screwing around and this was the Supervisor's way of correcting that behavior. The 1st Sergeant would report this back to the IG who would then close the report as "unsubstantiated" (that's the legal word for this) as the basic facts are incorrect / misrepresented.


A "substantiated" IG complaint just means the basic facts aren't incorrect or misrepresented. In the case of President Trump, those basic facts would of been that a phone call was had between those entities, that stuff mentioned in the complaint was discussed and that there was the potential for breach of trust (another important term). That's all the IG is responsible for determining, they then forward it to Congress for review and investigation.

All that just to say the WB complaint was credible..

It's not "credible", it's substantiated or unsubstantiated. These are legal terms with actual meanings. Not like little stuff like the law or due process as stopped your TDS inflicted folks before.

oh yes, the "due process" complaint! Thats been a real fun one for months now.

This.
Laughing hard.

I think WDS runs far more rampant in some than TDS.

Usually strawmen arguments are more subtle. Your strawman was more like a wicker man.

Source stating IG deemed WB complaint credible

This was the first one that popped up, but there are plenty of sources out there saying the same thing, Atkinson (the IG) deemed the WB complaint credible and marked it urgent concern. Pretty simple really, Saevel typing out long, source-less posts trying to claim it didn't happen debunked that easily.

Trump was impeached because he’s Trump. The geniuses didn’t even put a crime in the impeachment articles.

Is Trump impeached yet what the hell is taking so long !

Schiff's contact and coaching of Eric C. seriously diminish's his credibility. It's not illegal but it does give the appearance of impropriety, then again Trump does the same thing with Rudy.



Yeah it was blatant partisan ***, he was impeached for defeating Hillary in 2016 and telling Peloski to *** off.

Yes he's "impeached", he's not removed from office. Impeached =/= guilty or at fault, just that the House of Representatives really doesn't like you. President Clinton was impeached and still got elected for a second term.

I visit a lot of Russian websites maybe I'm part of the collusion conspiracy.

Russian propaganda is everywhere.

If you play this video backwards, you can hear them say, “Vote Trump!”

You forget Rudy. We would not be here save for Rudy.

Doesn't have to be a crime, but he has committed crimes, yes.

I mean at least one of his lawyers said so. Of course that was about Clinton so it couldn't possibly apply to a Republican...

TDS strikes again! Careful it might be contagious.

Anyhow was hilarious watching some of that today. It's obvious this was the a 2020 Election scheme by the DNC that's fallen apart. We all knew President Trump was getting acquitted but the Democrats could've at least tried to present a case. Instead it's just election rally speeches on the Senate Floor.

If they had any sense they would have put Schiff out to pasture by now. The dude was out there orating a fanfiction novel. I guess they had to fill the time somehow.

Uh oh, Schiff is a verified white supremacist...sending out the rally signal

Call your congressman load up this soundboard and Tell em Hwat !

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if we had just embraced communism already, we wouldn't have our Führer accused of such things (or any things!)

That's enough out of you fone! Also, I've decided to do ranger as my next project. Just putting the finishing touches on Blu.