Lilith HTBF

What do you call it when a horde of monsters can attack you and you can't move or act because you're locked due to animation (you're dead)? What do you call it when monsters can climb walls, drop through floors, still be able to attack you, but YOU can't attack them? What do you call it when you are facing a monster, but you keep getting a message "unable to see target" so you literally cannot fire off your WS? Nope. Nobody should have to endure that nonsense.

you gonna be fine even after the trust event ends :)

On windower plugin selection screen do the konami code and you unlock JAzero. This will prevent the lockout.

EDIT:
You can also move around during WS, JA animations, and move as soon as you get a raise.

LOL double EDIT:
I read everything backwards, and I just noticed on the previous page this was talked up.

Please ignore me.

Nah, that leads to darkness sc. Best move is to have amchu tank, open with a few decoy shots onto another trust, king is best for this, but sehlteus works too. Berserk, sharpshot, coro > barrage > last stand for light. If you get the proc, a well geared rng should be hitting 60-80k Barrage, decimating her hp, not to mention a 3k tp last stand with light sc. A bounty shot, and a few more decoyed double shots into ws should have her dead within the minute. Decoy shot tends to keep her on trusts if she does Subj Slash amchu, as long as the other trusts aren't in the cone. Sometimes amchu will zerk, and she will steal it. Fun times.

Will pull hate pretty quick without anni AM, a bit more reliant on Decoy shot hate transfer. Should work, but there is a higher chance of things going south.

Unless you are under geared you shouldn't need a tank for Lilith. I understand using a tank if you can't avoid Fatal or Spikes but otherwise save that spot for a buff/dispel trust.

While MNK is ideal for sure I've done Lilith E on a variety of jobs, nothing is one shotting a decently geared player and if you get in trouble you can literally turn until healed up. With shell V and a couple MDT/DT pieces she hits like a wet noodle.

My mule's just missing the legs... if you want to team up and do a daily farm of E together, hit me up in game.

SCH + GEO, 2min kills on E, really very painless.

I use amchuchu/mnjing/selt'eus/Yoran/Cherukiki.

I open with coro and decoy, then basically just self light sc with Last Stand >> Coro.

Sure. I have been able to do E consistently now, but it can be slower or faster depending on what TP moves she decides to use.

If you are using Fomalhaut and doing Radiance, the chances of you pulling hate which leads to getting charmed and loosing trusts on [E] difficulty, is very likely. I have tried this fight in all RNG REMAs, and yah easiest for not getting detected and pulling hate is Anni the rest kind of fall in between like Armageddon/Gandiva/ (ride the AM3 under double shot with decoy shot on tank)
Sample videos here:
Annihilator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ioxrkTmLs&ab_channel=DemXI
Armageddon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwXjzREIBFI&ab_channel=DemXI
Gandiva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyPJXijFEKs&ab_channel=DemXI

With Gastraphetes you gonna need a good Trueflight set to get through. Most I was able to get with trusts was around 20~22k ish (she did resist several times) and you could also use your AM3 on it to dish out more dmg with range attacks under decoy shot. Also, Trueflight --> Last Stand = Light or Trueflight --> Detonator = Light

For Fail-Not, you can pull off Radiance without getting too much attention from Lilith. Will still need Decoy Shot though since the range attacks can generate significant amounts of Enmity.

Yoichinoyumi works fine as well. Since Namas Arrow has really good SC properties you can 4 step light x 2.
NAMAS ARROW > EMPYREAL ARROW > APEX ARROW (light) > JISHNU'S RADIANCE (light)

Good luck!

Obvious advice but lilith ve/e only takes a minute, staying in full 50 dt for 100% not dying doesn't cost any measureable amount of time

Be less glass cannony and/or drop rcb for some hp+ foodies

4/5 malignance helps

Malignance helps in a fight you're trying to farm malignance from.

Yup, so as you get more pieces it gets easier lol. Definitely wasn't doing E when I didn't have any.

Months ago I suggested a strategy to just TP on Gyve and WS on Lilith. This limits her tp moves a lot. Since then I have seen several people writing here that it works for them. Maybe you can try it too.

Can't build TH (effectively) meleeing the fetter... not that TH 14 matters enough to attempt to get there

You could build TH to (#) then switch to fetter though

Personally I think TH10+ only matters on stuff that you are time gated. If you can just spam something like Lilith, then its better to do twice more with TH9-10, then half of that trying to proc higher and maybe even die in the process.

Miso ramen ftw

Just miso+ 5/5 turms you can basically engage and afk VE

4/5 is enough (not sure what feet I used tho, maybe Turms). I know because I did it several times with /follow on her. Few times she was able to push me outside of ring and that saved her from dying (I still finished her when I came back, because she still couldnt kill me in that ~5min of AFK).

I think only those gyve that create "ring" can hit you, not the one that she summons, but Im not sure, I havent killed her for several months now.

That's it! I've got all 9 drops from Lilith.

Once I started doing E, I found the thing that would kill either the tank trust or me is if Lilith used Impact right after using Moonlight Veil, since that tp move lowers your magic defense.



Subjugation slash can also be annoying due to the hate reset. If I had a bunch of hate on her and hate was reset on the tank, I would carefully WS only after she used a TP move, and carefully TP while not locked on. Which meant it was a good thing if she used subjugation slash on me, as then the trust tank could regain hate.
Other than that I was turning as soon as I saw Dark Thorn and repositioning trusts once all three gyves were placed.