The Last Dance III: A Dancer's Guide *New*

Sheet is showing like 39k avg PK, but in R20 Gleti's. In my practical test with R0 I had like 40k avg but it was in Reisenjima with it's area buffs.

Also going back to sub hand selection. If we ever get better shield it might be best to go single wield (requires haste samba), because currently single wield Terpsi with air buckler is only like 3-5% dps behind

Funny, I just got an Airy Buckler from NNI. I was thinking about trying them out when I get home just for shiggles.

I am also slightly below BiS for PK (+1 neck, no aurglemir orb +1, no regal ring, ternion offhand instead of Twash).

In my current Gleti's PK set with Berserk up + Marcato Honor/Min5/Min4 I am sitting at 2737 attack. (grape daifuku).

ItemSet 378279

@Simon does your sheet show if Gleti's Knife (R0) would beat Ternion+1 R15 for PK? Eyeballing it...it feels like a wash.

When applying all that to sheet (/war, ammo, ring, +1 neck, Ternion, R13 Terpsi, -7%DA to simulate R0 Gleti's body and no saber dance) Im getting 31.3k avg on Apex crab. So close to what you was seeing.


R0 Gleti's is slightly worse than Ternion+1 in DPS but PK damage itself is higher. Thats assuming both are capping attack.

Wow that is pretty spot on. Good to know the sheet is reflecting real world scenarios!

I said I will deliver, so here you go :P

Now I gotta find a way to get the Ony staff....god damnmit Simon lol.


I am terrible at these calculations....If I am getting Marcato Honor/Min5/Min4 from a pocket BRD, can I forego Sylvie?

I think that the staff idea is cool, but I almost always sub /NIN (especially against casters) when soloing. All that aside, I appreciate your work Simon on the Gleti set analysis. I’ve had good numbers using it with PK and Evis using BIS gear. I’ve made a toggle for swapping Gleti in for when I’m tanking or soloing for WS as it pairs nicely with Malignance (TP). I also love it for idle as the regain is nice.

Greetings Everyone,
I hope you are safe and healthy!
I have a small announcement to make about the Guide. I have not been playing the game for quite some time now due to obligations. And with the upcoming updates for the 22 jobs, some aspects of the Guide might change, especially Gear- Sets.
This Guide collects various insights from FFXIAH community members who happen to talk passionately about the job, so I would like to extend an invitation to you to gain access to Guide upkeep.
If any of you finds themselves able to keep it up-to-date, I will give access to the "Node" so you can update the Guide appropriately.

Thank you in advance.

Edit: SimonSes was gracious enough to lend support, they will be checking on it from time to time.

As a career DNC who has, unfortunately, been out of the game for the last three years, I need a bit of help going through my gear and figuring out the best uses for it. I have some good stuff, like full Relic +3 and full AF+2, more ammo, capes, belts, earrings and rings than I know what to do with, Adhemar +1 hands/body, some Ambu stuff, etc. Anyone willing to help me piece my sets together?

Liteholt The gear sets on the front page of this guide will help you out.

I've been throwing some tanking sets together to take advantage of the new Nyame set. It's by far the tankiest set we have ever had... and probably will ever see for a long time. It's basically a heavy DD set for all jobs so it has tons of HP, Defense, -DT, and surprisingly a lot of Evasion (only very slightly behind Malignance). Empty slots in these Gearsets are 5/5 Nyame set.

ItemSet 378985
HP: 2596
DT: -50%
Evasion: 1302
Defense: 1379 (no buffs)

ItemSet 378986
HP: 3026
DT: -50%
HP difference: 430 (waltz II maximum heal with this set is 434)
Evasion: 1209
Defense: 1421 (no buffs)
Enmity: +34

Assuming that waltz work off the same formula and my math is correct ( would love some double checking lol).
CE gained = HP Restored × CE Modifier
VE gained = 6 × CE gained
The CE modifier for a level 99 player is 40/170.
With this cure cheat set I'm generating 101 CE and 607 VE. Flash is 180 CE/1280 VE as a comparison. So almost half the Enmity of Flash and it's self target (effects everything tagged).

Unless BG wiki is wrong, Waltz IV and V are a static 400CE and 700(800)VE. I've been using this assumption in my DNC tanking sets, and have had a lot of success (tanking Kyou, off-tanking W3).

Glad to see someone else working on this!

I once had similar idea I think on PLD and Martel cut my hopes down for super tanking, because hate from cures is divided by number of targets you have on hate list I think. It's probably the same for waltzes.

Since my Odyssey group often lacks a tank I’ve found myself super tanking Sheol C Halo (pre-Nyame, pre-Gleti) mobs in full Malignance, Fan Dance, with a WHM. I tank Sheol B without a WHM. It works fine—-just AM3 with Terp for oodles of TP. I’ve also tanked Wave 2 Jeuno (Divergence) boss. Haven’t tried Wave 3 or another zone yet. Not exactly new revelations. I don’t think there’s going to be much of a difference between Nyame and Malignance. I can’t see the augs that are available as something that’s going to make one or the other better for tanking. If anything, until we get some gear on it with DT II I can’t see Dancer being a tank on anything substantive like Reisen HELMs, higher Veng T3s etc. I will say that Dancer is a very competent healer in certain situations Terp denouncers be damned.

Edit: I haven’t tried getting Mambos yet. Curious to try more Evasion out.

Comparing Nyame to Malignance:
Nyame has +251 HP, + 216 defense (protect V levels of difference) and -7% more DT. All at the cost of 21 evasion.

Fan Dance is dancers pdt II. It's not quite as potent as something like Burtgang or Epeo, but it's also free and does not take up weapon slots. With fan dance and phalanx DNC is not that far behind a PLD or RUN really. All while bringing a lot of cure power and -23% defense down. Dancer is a lot more evasive than a PLD and RUN also. I went in odyssey C and held a group of the mobs just for curiosity sake on DNC with the set above (no songs/rolls) and it was still pretty evasive. Stick a mambo (or 2) on them and I bet they are golden.

The HP of Nyame is great, one the the biggest issues I took with DNC trying to tank was always being at like 1900 HP which really hurts you in lost enmity from damage taken. So an Omlette Sandwhich and Nyame, and offhand Acrontica, thats +465 HP.

When you guys say Tanking on DNC. Are you talking about solo w/Trusts, small groups, or alliance events?

I love how many levers there are on RUN and DNC, but keeping CE & VE up against a bunch of murder hobo DDs seems like it’d be hard.

Also regarding the Tank set, how’s Accuracy and TP gain? I’d imagine that’d be important to maintain threat, along with steps.

Love the idea of tanking on DNC, Thanks for sharing your set!

I have the same feeling. I can only see dnc keep hate with damage really. Waltz might be half of foil in CE and VE, but Run is casting foil with 100+ enmity, not 30+ I can also imagine DNC could tank if it's only real dd in the party.


This O wouldn't be worry about. Dnc is naturally one of the more accurate jobs and Nyame has decent acc.

This is how I've been selling it: You tank from the DD party. My sets have been reworked to maintain full -dt in tp set and during PK.

Essentially you spam PK without fear and should be ahead in CE on anything single target with decent enmity+ sprinkled into your sets. (Zoar Subligar+1 in PK set for example)

Also DNC is waltzing in more than 30 at almost baseline for me because of two awesome things SE just gave us -Acrontica and Omelette Sandwich. ofc fulltime Fan Dance.

While war is the most weapons versatile job, dnc is def the job with the most versatile uses... debuffs, healing, tanking, offtanking, buffing, dd.
I still dont understand why its such underrated in high end content

Exactly because its versatile. People cant categorize it easily, so they don't really know it's strong and weak points in specific role. Most people think its ok for everything, but not better than jobs specializing in one role.

Yeah, for sure. It's not a tank per se; it's just the most -DT-friendly DD job given its native accuracy and the nature of Dance-stances. The idea is that DNC stays ahead of the other DDs on enmity so it can serve as a buffer between the actual tank and softer DDs. It's all the more reason to use /DRG, even: if you pull aggro off the tank, you can hold the mob for a bit to let them catch up and High Jump it back to them when you're ready.

DNC also has amazing burst windows, that are under utilized.

Another problem of DNC now is that you only have piercing damage. Slashing is hidden behind Bonanza...

Karambit and a few different sword options (none are great).

Karambit is ok vs dagger on skeletons, but overall its not as good 2nd damage option like Naegling for DRG, Loxotic for WAR, Maxientus for BLU, Shining One for SAM, Naegling for THF. Probably even Loxotic on DRK is better.

Also thats for Segments farming when you can sub mnk and use Raging Fists. For Tier III you are limited to mostly Xevioso and Arebati (not sure if you could fit into Bumba composition? Maybe), which I guess its not that bad overall I guess. Could be worse.

Dnc tank/dd might be perfect for Bee

Anyone tried Fu solo with the new tank set ? Sub run ?
Its easly doable now with war/run , i wonder if dnc can eat the Ga spells better now with more hp

The only question I have is if Terpsichore DNC/Sam would still be better with Malignance 4/5 + Relic feet+3, with all the store tp? Nyame with Path B will be awesome for ws, but I don’t really want to give up all that store tp. Now if nyame wasn’t rare, I’d just work on 2 sets, one A, one B.