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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
By Viciouss 2019-08-07 12:13:59
Mexico IS sending us their rapists and murderers. It is far better for their prisons to ship their criminals up north than for them to stay in Mexico.
This has always been a complete lie.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-07 12:17:17
Right, so he clearly qualifies in the part you quoted that there are good people in the group coming from Mexico.
Like I said, He said he assumes "some" of them are good, he's clearly depicting the majority as bad. Which reinforces my point.
Holy crap, why are we still discussing that quote? Haven't we beaten that horse to death already?
Just be glad that millions of people aren't psychoanalyzing the crap out of every off-the-cuff comment that you make.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-07 12:23:26
Just be glad that millions of people aren't psychoanalyzing the crap out of every off-the-cuff comment that you make.
Wasn't it his speech to launch his bid at the presidency ....? Doesn't sound very "off-the-cuff".
It's Trump. Just because it was written doesn't mean that it wasn't off-the-cuff.
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By Viciouss 2019-08-07 12:28:27
Just be glad that millions of people aren't psychoanalyzing the crap out of every off-the-cuff comment that you make.
Wasn't it his speech to launch his bid at the presidency ....? Doesn't sound very "off-the-cuff".
You don't have to go back that far, in his last campaign "rally" he made a lot of ***up about Chuck Schumer and the visa lottery system.
By Nausi 2019-08-07 12:35:50
Right, so he clearly qualifies in the part you quoted that there are good people in the group coming from Mexico.
Like I said, He said he assumes "some" of them are good, he's clearly depicting the majority as bad. Which reinforces my point. No it doesn’t. How do you know what he means by “some”? He doesnt say “most are bad”. There are sayings like “some good, some bad”, which are well more ambivalent uses of the word.
What you have done is simply insist that your interpretation of what he says is the ONLY interpretation that should be valid, and thats 100% horseshit.
***like that is literally what elected the man in the first place.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2019-08-07 12:44:42
Mexico IS sending us their rapists and murderers. It is far better for their prisons to ship their criminals up north than for them to stay in Mexico.
This has always been a complete lie.
He has to say "some are good and some and bad", lets get real, its not like we have ANY idea who and how many are actually coming over since... ummm, they are coming here illegally and we don't exactly know. This is the one argument I've never understood and how we're still talking about this today. Any country should be concerned and should assume not the best of people are headed up north for FREE sh*t. (and lets face it, there are so many cartels and trafficking going on, he is right to assume that rapists and murderers are coming in to a land of opportunity). Now if we actually accounted for 100% of all people coming in, then I can tell you it is a lie that he is spinning. OR the truth, but seriously now, how can we know. So your thought is to assume that everyone is legit? Wake up man
By Viciouss 2019-08-07 12:51:52
Mexico IS sending us their rapists and murderers. It is far better for their prisons to ship their criminals up north than for them to stay in Mexico.
This has always been a complete lie.
He has to say "some are good and some and bad", lets get real, its not like we have ANY idea who and how many are actually coming over since... ummm, they are coming here illegally and we don't exactly know. This is the one argument I've never understood and how we're still talking about this today. Any country should be concerned and should assume not the best of people are headed up north for FREE sh*t. (and lets face it, there are so many cartels and trafficking going on, he is right to assume that rapists and murderers are coming in to a land of opportunity). Now if we actually accounted for 100% of all people coming in, then I can tell you it is a lie that he is spinning. OR the truth, but seriously now, how can we know. So your thought is to assume that everyone is legit? Wake up man
Haha, this completely dodges the main point. Mexico is not sending people here, they are coming here on their own. The Mexican government has nothing to do with the people that come here. They are not not "sending" rapists and murderers any more than they are "sending" good people. The accusation has always been a lie.
By Viciouss 2019-08-07 12:56:17
Do I think that there are criminals that come to the US illegally of course. But it has nothing to do with the visa lottery system or foreign governments, or foreign prison systems.
By Nausi 2019-08-07 12:57:15
https://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/category/rape/
Sites actually catalogue the rapists and murderers that are committing crimes here who are illegal.
We are getting some terrible criminals from south of the border. This isn’t contestable. Trump is 100% right.
By Nausi 2019-08-07 12:58:00
No it doesn’t. How do you know what he means by “some”? He doesnt say “most are bad”. There are sayings like “some good, some bad”, which are well more ambivalent uses of the word.
What you have done is simply insist that your interpretation of what he says is the ONLY interpretation that should be valid, and thats 100% horseshit.
Spinning like no one has ever done before. You know I am right, he even doubled down on it a few times already. Presented reason
Respond with “spin”.
You forgot to call me a white supremacist.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2019-08-07 12:58:16
Clearly they are turning the other way knowing that it is a problem. They might as well be sending them. Remember how they finally created a blockade of soliders after the tarrif threat? Yeah, they certainly have the ability to prevent migration but they choose not to since "its not their problem"
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By Viciouss 2019-08-07 13:11:06
Clearly they are turning the other way knowing that it is a problem. They might as well be sending them. Remember how they finally created a blockade of soliders after the tarrif threat? Yeah, they certainly have the ability to prevent migration but they choose not to since "its not their problem"
They aren't sending anyone, and they never have.
By Nausi 2019-08-07 13:29:24
Its like when Trump says “make America great again”. Liberals insist that that MUST mean go back to slavery and that it CANNOT mean anything but that.
Gas lighting.
Delusion
Straw-man
By Viciouss 2019-08-07 13:38:45
Its like when Trump says “make America great again”. Liberals insist that that MUST mean go back to slavery and that it CANNOT mean anything but that.
Gas lighting.
Delusion
Straw-man
No one has ever "insisted" this fantasy, lol.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2019-08-07 13:40:20
DONE
Good luck in your delusion world Vic
By Eboneezer 2019-08-07 13:45:04
You cannot pretend that words do not have an impact on the lunatics out there.
Glad you at least acknowledge them for the lunatics that they are. And you cannot tiptoe around the feelings of lunatics when you're in charge of the country. Nothing will ever be done if people aren't allowed to state facts that upset the feelings of others. You want to immigrate into this country, by all means come. We have a process for that. That has NEVER been opposed by President Trump.
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By Nausi 2019-08-07 13:56:06
https://twitter.com/yaas_america/status/1157885849796775936?s=21
Has everyone seen he sissies at the democratic socialist meeting arguing about gendered language and introducing their pronouns?
This is the left folks.
By Viciouss 2019-08-07 13:56:11
You cannot pretend that words do not have an impact on the lunatics out there.
Glad you at least acknowledge them for the lunatics that they are. And you cannot tiptoe around the feelings of lunatics when you're in charge of the country. Nothing will ever be done if people aren't allowed to state facts that upset the feelings of others. You want to immigrate into this country, by all means come. We have a process for that. That has NEVER been opposed by President Trump.
Ive never disputed the fact that they were lunatics. I think its digusting that nausi fixates on their race and political affiliations, which most of these people don't have any political motivations. But its become normal for nausi to do this every time there is a mass shooting and you guys encourage his trolling idiocy.
All leaders have a responsibility to avoid triggering these lunatics into action. When Trump goes out there and calls Americans the enemy of the people, that is not acceptable. He is getting booed out of Dayton right now, nobody wants him there.
By fonewear 2019-08-07 13:56:38
Do I think that there are criminals that come to the US illegally of course. But it has nothing to do with the visa lottery system or foreign governments, or foreign prison systems.
You never think that is the problem !
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By Nausi 2019-08-07 13:57:21
You cannot pretend that words do not have an impact on the lunatics out there.
Glad you at least acknowledge them for the lunatics that they are. And you cannot tiptoe around the feelings of lunatics when you're in charge of the country. Nothing will ever be done if people aren't allowed to state facts that upset the feelings of others. You want to immigrate into this country, by all means come. We have a process for that. That has NEVER been opposed by President Trump. Whens Vuc gonna ban video games, movies and the news networks then? They reach a far greater audience than a trump rally.
By Eboneezer 2019-08-07 13:57:50
Like I said, He said he assumes "some" of them are good, he's clearly depicting the majority as bad. Which reinforces my point.
Weird, you guys didn't seem to take that stance when talking about the crowds at Charlottesville.
By Nausi 2019-08-07 13:59:00
Do I think that there are criminals that come to the US illegally of course. But it has nothing to do with the visa lottery system or foreign governments, or foreign prison systems.
You never think that is the problem ! No one has ever argued there was an illegal prison exchange program.
Mexico has violent criminals, they can either hunt them down and prison them OR they can not hunt them down vigorously and allow them to flee across the border.
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By Viciouss 2019-08-07 14:00:43
You cannot pretend that words do not have an impact on the lunatics out there.
Glad you at least acknowledge them for the lunatics that they are. And you cannot tiptoe around the feelings of lunatics when you're in charge of the country. Nothing will ever be done if people aren't allowed to state facts that upset the feelings of others. You want to immigrate into this country, by all means come. We have a process for that. That has NEVER been opposed by President Trump. Whens Vuc gonna ban video games, movies and the news networks then? They reach a far greater audience than a trump rally.
Funny how all countries have video games, movies, and news networks, but only the US has a mass shooting problem.
By fonewear 2019-08-07 14:01:16
Democrats future:
No language no border no culture...just a bunch of moral relativistic degenerate psycho hyper vigilant *** faces.
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By fonewear 2019-08-07 14:03:52
Sleepy Joe is saying that Trump has no values...coming from a pervert like Joe that is a joke.
By fonewear 2019-08-07 14:04:19
Democrats have no values whatsoever...not for life liberty pursuit of happiness nothing...nothing but control and power.
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By Viciouss 2019-08-07 14:04:52
Mexico IS sending us their rapists and murderers. It is far better for their prisons to ship their criminals up north than for them to stay in Mexico.
No one has every argued there was a prison exchange system, except nausi lol. Mexico has never sent any criminals here. Being complacent and being directly involved are completely different.
By Eboneezer 2019-08-07 14:15:09
When Trump goes out there and calls Americans the enemy of the people, that is not acceptable.
I'll look for your support the next time a politician says the NRA is the enemy of the people.
I only know of trump calling the media the enemy of the people. He has a pretty valid argument to support that claim.
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