Apoc VS Calad

Discuss.

Nevermind found it.

in the title, one has five letters and one has four. the winner is obvious.

Less is more.

Depends on Papa Roach.

Hope this isn't serious. If it is then there's no comparison, Calad is for pure damage and Apoc is for pure survival. That's it. No further discussion necessary,

Yet this is common drk knowledge. So much confusion with reason for post?

The best thread of year.

Thank you kindly.

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Nevermind found it

I just had to tag a guy in this on discord. Ya'll know.

But Liberator! Be Free!

LR up Cala.
LR down Apoc.
Not sure about your healer Apoc.
Light SC Cala.
Dark SC Apoc.
SE up i prefer Apoc but that’s healer
Dependent.

Apoc get a huge boost at r15. Cala get a smaller
But very good boost at r15.

Just wanted to add something obvious, Apoc for LR down even more when your are not /sam, but Cala for LR down if you have hasso and DNC is there for samba.

Ya nothing really to talk about Apoc r15 still isn't great for pure damage make a Lib if you wanna do scythe.

That’s not really true. Is it behind Cala and Lib yes but the margin is the smallest it’s been since 99 cap.

Cata getting a 68% boost makes it extremely potent to spam at 1000tp.

Thats all fine but in general its still not better in the long run. Margin can be small or big I personally wish it was closer so the fight for it would be good but it's just not. Also the 68% was just basically putting it closer vs the other two weapons.

In the long run it is better. Since with LR down Apoc can still cap delay.

Apoc AG was a firm 3rd place DPS scythe option now it varies between 1st and barely 3rd depnding On buffs.

I personally just stick to r15 Cala LR up and r15 Apoc LR down.

When you bott do u use LR with apoc or Caladabolg?

you make a rule in your ashitacast or gearswap to change weapons, what is this 2010

cala for torcleaver~

Option C: All of the above.

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Caladbolg is a great weapon as I've said to OP before. Its the best in the arsenal for pure damage.

I prefer Apocalypse for the utility, still does great damage. With R15 augs it holds it's own and is nothing to sneeze at.

For wave 3 Dyna I can see it being pretty useful since drains still work on volte monsters (Hydra corps aren't true undead for some reason)

Personally-
If I need pure damage for a Zerg or something I'll probably go Warrior. This way the other DDs can take advantage of full break or armor break. The DD I'm paired with will also be gaining a really nice tp bonus due to war cry/savagery.

For Escha Zergs - I have Raetic Algol+1 to play with on both jobs.

Caladbolg is on my to do list, but I'm focusing time and resources on Death Penalty first.

It all comes down to play style. I usually prefer utility and play defensively instead of going pure DPS.

It's sort of like choosing between annihilator vs formalhaut on RNG. One is utility/damage, the other is pure damage.

I love being low maintenance and self sufficient to a point. In the event I take hate I can just grab the bull by the horns and go all out on most things.

YMMV if you have a mule/pocket medic cure bombing you

Play however the hell you want as long as you aren't dragging the group down.

Kraken Club.

No.

Ever think of having a DT set and what not so thats not a problem? It comes down to play style sure but if you wanna talk dps apoc isnt gonna beat the other two and I can live just fine. I use Apoc when im soloing stuff or don't trust my healers basically.

-Of course I have DT sets (A hybrid, arcana killer, and a max HP/Meva set)
-Never said Apoc was going to beat Calad or other options. I said it's nothing to sneeze at.
-Trusting my healers is usually the issue lol (So much I'm hesitant on riding Souleater otherwise).

I think what I really need to do is make relic feet+3 and use them during a last resort up PDT set.

The overall defense penalty with LR up can hurt at times.

Like I said though, YMMV.