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Opinions on rank of best damage dealers
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:15:22
Dasva said: Vegetto said: Dasva said: Enternius said: I'll grab you guys a parse next time I merit on RNG. Hell, even if I'm on MNK, I guarantee I can outDD any random SAM in my party. Not because I'm that good, but because SAM is overrated as hell. There is that... one time sam was super over powered and one in relic does some nice dps but yeah. Also what about mnk with those peircing claws!?! Mnk doesn't have piercing claws. Your knowledge of this game never ceases to amaze me over the past couple threads I've seen you post in. er sorry slashing whatever. and I'm sure you were referring to these?  , since they're the only non blunt h2h in the game. even IF those were piercing, they would still be inferior to destroyers.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-10-09 23:15:43
Vegetto said: Dasva said: Enternius said: I'll grab you guys a parse next time I merit on RNG. Hell, even if I'm on MNK, I guarantee I can outDD any random SAM in my party. Not because I'm that good, but because SAM is overrated as hell. There is that... one time sam was super over powered and one in relic does some nice dps but yeah. Also what about mnk with those peircing claws!?! Mnk doesn't have piercing claws. Your knowledge of this game never ceases to amaze me over the past couple threads I've seen you post in. I'm assuming he meant these, which are slashing rather than piercing. Edit: bleh, beat me to it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:15:56
Yes it was a joke get it?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:16:19
Dasva said: Yes it was a joke get it? No it wasn't And even if it was, I don't see the point, as destroyers would still beat them if vampiric were piercing
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By Asura.Eeek 2009-10-09 23:16:29
Ninian said: Integral said: Integral said: 9fully merited sch 1.sch 2. Rofl. Unfortunately no one's taken down AV yet to my knowledge. He's been taking down on several occasions, but each time SE deemed the methods "incorrect." Most recently, AV was killed repeatedly by hordes of Kracken DRKs. It doesn't work anymore though as damage generated on AV through Souleater was quickly nerfed.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:17:21
Vegetto said: Dasva said: Yes it was a joke get it? No it wasn't Sure ok. Then take this thfs should /war and main hand merc kris.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-10-09 23:17:21
Nightfyre said: Integral said: 9fully merited sch Chuckled a bit. EDIT: Even ignoring that they have no bearing on the original question, Vampire Claws suck ***. They do have a use though. If something is resistant or immune to blunt, yeah. You get the idea.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-09 23:17:40
Perfect example of trying to save face. EDIT: Eternius: Resistant, Destroyers still win. Immune, yeah... or better yet, go on another job.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-09 23:18:15
Eeek said: Ninian said: Integral said: Integral said: 9fully merited sch 1.sch 2. Rofl. Unfortunately no one's taken down AV yet to my knowledge. He's been taking down on several occasions, but each time SE deemed the methods "incorrect." Most recently, AV was killed repeatedly by hordes of Kracken DRKs. It doesn't work anymore though as damage generated on AV through Souleater was quickly nerfed. Yeah I was referring to the SCH Modus Veritas thingy, but yeah. I love how SE doesn't want AV to die =.=;
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:18:23
Dasva said: Vegetto said: Dasva said: Yes it was a joke get it? No it wasn't Sure ok. Then take this thfs should /war and main hand merc kris. Still trying to play it off
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-09 23:19:56
Bartimaeus said: I blame the OP for being so vague that the responses make you guys eat eachother alive with flame posts.
Back on track: Mehbeh RNG?
Sure they can miss...like..any..other job ever... Only a RNG with a 'stache could out-parse any other DD.
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By Asura.Eeek 2009-10-09 23:20:26
Ninian said: Eeek said: Ninian said: Integral said: Integral said: 9fully merited sch 1.sch 2. Rofl. Unfortunately no one's taken down AV yet to my knowledge. He's been taking down on several occasions, but each time SE deemed the methods "incorrect." Most recently, AV was killed repeatedly by hordes of Kracken DRKs. It doesn't work anymore though as damage generated on AV through Souleater was quickly nerfed. Yeah I was referring to the SCH Modus Veritas thingy, but yeah. I love how SE doesn't want AV to die =.=; Ah, fair enough. It would be cool to see if the SCH trick would work on AV. Sure it'd be quickly patched, but who wouldn't love to watch AV essentially get 1shotted by a bunch of SCHs? Aside from SE, of course...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:22:36
Vegetto said: Dasva said: Vegetto said: Dasva said: Yes it was a joke get it? No it wasn't Sure ok. Then take this thfs should /war and main hand merc kris. Still trying to play it off Actually no at this point who cares? You make don't entertain new ideas or anyone elses. Though tbh I kinda wanna see what a thf/rng could do with culverin
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-10-09 23:22:51
Eeek said: He's been taking down on several occasions, but each time SE deemed the methods "incorrect." Most recently, AV was killed repeatedly by hordes of Kracken DRKs. It doesn't work anymore though as damage generated on AV through Souleater was quickly nerfed. Actually AV has been killed "Correctly" numerous times on my server. Hell, I know a SAM on my server with Bellona's Ring, Mars's Ring, and Ninurta's Sash. Idk, might just be a Siren thing.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-09 23:23:23
Eeek said: Ah, fair enough. It would be cool to see if the SCH trick would work on AV. Sure it'd be quickly patched, but who wouldn't love to watch AV essentially get 1shotted by a bunch of SCHs? Aside from SE, of course... Yeah, I really hope someone does it. I've been half staring at people in my LS to go level SCH and merit it to try it, but they just ignore me. Ohhhhhwelll. Would be neat if they managed to get it to work and such.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:24:12
Figured out why he was downtalking great daggers like blau, x's http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=69904
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-10-09 23:25:45
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-09 23:25:49
Enternius said: Actually AV has been killed "Correctly" numerous times on my server. Hell, I know a SAM on my server with Bellona's Ring, Mars's Ring, and Ninurta's Sash. Idk, might just be a Siren thing. wat Details prz, must know this legitimate strategy that SE has not nerfed.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:26:59
Only told the truth on them. They aren't perfect and have there downsides. Only bad thing I said about X is that according to wiki it doesn't work on SA/TA offhand well and difficult to get. I still fail to see why you wouldn't want 4 more dmg and a good 8-12 higher str cap. Also really for being my 4th 75 its not exactly bad gear.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-09 23:27:30
Nightfyre said: Enternius said: Actually AV has been killed "Correctly" numerous times on my server. Hell, I know a SAM on my server with Bellona's Ring, Mars's Ring, and Ninurta's Sash. Idk, might just be a Siren thing. wat Details prz, must know this legitimate strategy that SE has not nerfed. ^ Also, I suspect an army of 'stached RNGs to be involved.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:28:21
I suspect it was only legitimate the first few times it was tried...
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:30:31
Dasva said: Only told the truth on them. They aren't perfect and have there downsides. Only bad thing I said about X is that according to wiki it doesn't work on SA/TA offhand well and difficult to get. I still fail to see why you wouldn't want 4 more dmg and a good 8-12 higher str cap. Also really for being my 4th 75 its not exactly bad gear. Because 6 DMG on ws isn't worth the higher delay, loss of acc and loss of attack.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-09 23:31:32
Dasva said: Only told the truth on them. They aren't perfect and have there downsides. Only bad thing I said about X is that according to wiki it doesn't work on SA/TA offhand well and difficult to get. I still fail to see why you wouldn't want 4 more dmg and a good 8-12 higher str cap. Also really for being my 4th 75 its not exactly bad gear. THF is a DoT job and Blau has other advantages. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 23:33:35
Vegetto said: Dasva said: Only told the truth on them. They aren't perfect and have there downsides. Only bad thing I said about X is that according to wiki it doesn't work on SA/TA offhand well and difficult to get. I still fail to see why you wouldn't want 4 more dmg and a good 8-12 higher str cap. Also really for being my 4th 75 its not exactly bad gear. Because 6 DMG on ws isn't worth the higher delay, loss of acc and loss of attack. Is another 8-12 str? For that matter you can still offhand it. More importantly wouldn't SA ws then 30 sec later TA ws beat slightly higher dot?
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-10-09 23:34:56
Bartimaeus said: You know whats sad is you guys talking about all this as common knowledge, and I have no idearrr what you're saying.
O hai i cure u long time? <3 QFT >:3 <3
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 23:35:10
Dasva said: Vegetto said: Dasva said: Only told the truth on them. They aren't perfect and have there downsides. Only bad thing I said about X is that according to wiki it doesn't work on SA/TA offhand well and difficult to get. I still fail to see why you wouldn't want 4 more dmg and a good 8-12 higher str cap. Also really for being my 4th 75 its not exactly bad gear. Because 6 DMG on ws isn't worth the higher delay, loss of acc and loss of attack. Is another 8-12 str? For that matter you can still offhand it. and that 8-12 str is only gonna make a 2 DMG diff and blau is better paired w/ x's or even siccoro than Pharp
Curious to see how people would rank the different damage dealing jobs according to best damage output. No restrictions on gear; looking for the very best.
I know right now everyone is all "sam sam sam" but I think a pimped out WAR trumps it. Also BLM is up there somewhere.
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