The A.M.A.N. Trove BC

Wat?

He said you opened a total of 6 chests, middle chest included, and got 5 items, meaning the LT probably was something you already had and thus didn't generate. You said you opened 5, but then realized it was actually 6. I fail to see how he was wrong here.

I mean, if you read Nynja's OP at face value then what Iocus said makes no sense.


He literally said Noise - middle. He listed all the chests, in order, including the terminal chest. There's no way, if this testimonial is to be believed, that the problem was "you opened 6 chests and got 5 drops."

It turns out that he was accidently right because Nynja was wrong, but his conclusion from this information is just plain wrong. He said:


Which is just...mis-counting what Nynja said. He didn't "open 5 boxes and then the last box" (according to the information at the time). Iocus either misread what Nynja said or worded his post really weirdly. That is a really strange way to say "I think you opened 6 but only listed 5 in your post because you didn't notice something in the chat log."

It's perfectly possible for more than one person to be wrong/mistaken.

There are no words that can accurately convey the idiocy going on here.

Peak FFXIAH community to get toxic over boxes in troves.

He's wrong because he assumed I wasnt counting the middle chest.


I stated in my first post that I opened N N N-BB LT N-middle. That post was quoted by Rips 6 hours before Iocus made his post, so "you edited it after I saw it!" would only be possible of I convinced Rips to edit his post accordingly. Yes, I made a mistake and miscounted the N boxes I opened because I'm not used to not having LT loot load. I have multiple characters sitting in the BCNM area when I do Trove and I was just in disbelief over it. I also admitted that mistake when I went back to look at the logs, unlike some people here who will never own to their mistakes, or continue to double down and gaslight.

So yes, he was correct that I opened 6 boxes. Once again, I have owned that mistake after doublechecking the logs. He was wrong because he made the false assumption that I wasnt counting the middle box.

Next time I'll just pull an Eiryl and be a little *** by simply disappearing from a conversation like it never happened.

Why not just post the screenshot?

Jesus christ the level of "I was wrong BUT HE WAS WRONGER" is a bit absurd. The point is that the system worked as intended and you didn't get gypped out of a drop. Case closed.

I just saw this for the first time ever, 2 rainbow chests at the very start of a Trove BC (Mars Orb).



Results were 2 loud thuds (obviously) and the terminal coffer was just a noise.

Treasure pool was trash: Sroda Earring, S. Faulpie Leather and frayed sack of Fern stones. Womp. Womp.

Didn't know that was possible, very cool

In what is basically the only ever luck I've gotten on the rare occasion I abuse myself into doing this ***content, I just got regal cuffs + tart mail in one venus orb!

BIG

Lol!!!

I "abuse" myself every month too my man...

I decided to burn through my backlog of silver vouchers over the last 2 days even though it was off campaign. I opened only after loud thuds and rainbow/gold chests. Posting just for funsies.

143 Mars orb attempt results:
3 rainbow starting chests (#1 voidhand: mnk; #2 pulse weapon; #3 crepuscular knife [LAST ORB!!!])
3 gold chest #9
1 belligerent bang lost to rainbow chest - just omen cards and dyna shards
2x 5,000,000 gil
7 pulse weapons
1 crepuscular knife
1 Daybreak
1 cath palug hammer
2 pulse bodies
2 omen bodies (shamash robe, nisroch jerkin)
1 regal gauntlets
1 crepuscular helm
1 hjarrandi helm
1 volte bracers
1 volte tiara
1 volte mittens
1 sroda earring
2 kaggen's cuticle
1 akvan's pennon
6 pil's tuille
1 waktza crest
1 ethereal squama
misc dynamis shards (~18.5M)
misc geas fete & vagary drops
misc inconsequential htbf drops
misc abj armor crafting ingredients

That's a nice haul...

What does this part mean? A beligerent bang can appear after 3 chests are opened and it means there is a Loud Thud on the floor. How do you lose a beligerent bang? Unless you get a Loud thud, and you still see bang notifications, so there must have been 2 LT's on the floor?

Think it means he opened the 8th chest without finding the loud thud, so it was either the 9th or 10th. Because one changed to rainbow at that point, it was effectively lost.

Interesting perspective. When this has happened to me in the past, I just assume that the final chest (rainbow) was the belligerent bang's Loud Thud all along.

Honestly, I just never assigned any weight to the idea that the LT must occur before the 8th chest is opened. I guess I low-key suspect that when a belligerent bang occurs, I have a slightly higher chance of encountering a LT with each subsequent chest-open. Of course, this is all guess-work or conjectuve, with no real way to validate it. (If only SE could give us a hint, like if one of the chests would wiggle or twinkle, in response to random emote...I wish.)

So this means the LT was one of the last 2 chests with the other being the mimic so it turned into a rainbow chest. Ive had this happen a couple of times.

Schrodinger's box:
If the BB was found before box 9, would box 9 still become a rainbow or only upgrade to gold?

It is Schrodinger’s cat.

Like this one

I pointed this out a while back, but that event will overwrite a rainbow chest(on entry) with a gold chest. I think it upgrades to gold or rainbow at the usual rate regardless of what happened prior.

How do you know? If the limit was one LT, that would be a logical deduction, but we know there can be more than one LT.

I have had this happen:

• Opened first three chests, found one loud thud.

• Also got belligerent bang after 3rd chest.

• Kept opening, found loud thud from BB on the last chest (not including mimic obvs).

• Opened non-rainbow middle chest, another LT.

First and only time I ever saw three loud thuds.

(Drops were trash, don't ask).

The balls on this man to keep going after a loud thud

I once had either three or four loud thuds going into the 8th chest and of course I blew it. Would've been a great screenshot.

Definition of "doin it wrong"

Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

Does he know how to set BLU spells though?

If you say so. I have everything I need. I'm just giving things away to friends and strangers at this point. If your orb looked like this, maybe you'd be more inclined to gamble as well.