The A.M.A.N. Trove BC

SE knows what your accounts truly do, they're just getting personal payback and have blocked all good drops on all your accounts in this event!

#consipracy

You can do at most 3 mars orbs per account. One freebie, one from six silvers from RoEs, and one from buying 5 silvers and using one of the remaining four RoEs. That leaves 3 silvers for the next month. So assuming one account gets 7 orbs every 2 months you would have to have around 28-30 characters. I don’t know what is more staggering — having that many accounts or seeing that low a drop rate on your 200 orbs! :-)

I don't do the *** RoE, just the free orb, 5 vouchers, and 1 from home point in home nation, so 2 mars per char per month. And yes, many people can vouch for how many characters I run.

I am not whining about my personal luck or trying to say the game is screwing me, I'm suggesting that we are seeing all the good results and many many more people are not getting good drops. The rates are likely not nearly as high as this thread makes them appear.

This ***is LITERALLY an iteration of ANV keys. You only always see the "good" drops, never the bad ones.

Open instagram and look at how many people post pictures of them on their "worst day". Hardly ever. You only see the good pictures. People purposely filter out that ***and it gives an inaccurate perspective on things.

Same deal here. People are burning dozens of orbs across multiple characters and then posting only the one screenshot of them getting something good, while conveniently ignoring the others. But those same people will say that buying Gil harms the economy, while pumping out 20+ orbs per month on every one of their toons. Nice fantasy world to be living in...

feeling bored might delete later <3

Yeah it's typical outcome reporting bias. Players who obtain omen body drops are more likely to post their results than those who get alluvion skirmish stones. Despite this I still believe the drop rate on omen bodies is higher in A.M.A.N Trove than actual omen although I can't substantiate that with numbers.

9 accounts total

I don't. The comparison is badly skewed.

You can get 5 omen bodies in one event, where in omen yuo can only get 1/5, depending on the boss you fight. Throw in Tartarus platemails, Ou hands, and other neat/rare bodies (anointed kalasiris) and you have a badly skewed event. It's likely the same exact drop rate, its just players have a higher ceiling to repeat/obtain the drops.

Omen Bodies are sendable on POL, right? If average person has 5 mules, thats 18 orbs/month. Thats 18 chances to get one of five bodies, vs 1-4 (depending on canteens) to get one body doing an Omen run.

I highly doubt the chance of getting an omen body during anv keys were raised, its purely a numbers and probability game. This is nothing different than keys, except for the fact that you can lose and get nothing in return. But the risk is the same (none).

I don't think the pool is the same as ANV keys as the Thud/Loud Thud seems to more frequently lead to a piece of gear. The ANV keys had a lot of trash 50 dial drop stuff in there. That's not to say you still can't get trash from the Thud/Loud Thud, it's just filtered more.

Pool, schmool. I'm not talking about the quality of the "other drops"; we're only considering Omen bodies/rare nice ***in this particular instance. There's a ton of garbage in AMAN trove also, but if I remember correctly, there were a ton of people who posted they got rare ***like omen bodies from that.

My point is that it's a numbers game, and I don't truthfully believe aman trove or anv keys has a higher drop% on bodies than Omen actually does. It's probably the exact same number, but the amount of times you can repeat is significantly higher, and thus, more chances at said rare body.

If someone has 20 fully leveled characters for Omen, and did 20 straight Omen runs nightly; How long do you think it would take before they see a body and send it to their main? I think the frequency is about the same as aman trove across mules, its just nobody is that dedicated to have 20 fully levelled characters and spam 20 omens a night for one body.

You're making assertions about drop statistics without any supporting evidence while also deriding an explanation that does fit the current evidence. I'm not sure where you're coming from with that, it's hard not read this as anything but hubris. I'm also not stating that if your objective is to obtain a specific Omen body that exclusive A.M.A.N Trove is the best method to do this, just that 100 Venus Orbs (and potentially 100 Mimic kills) will likely produce more unspecified omen bodies than defeating 100 omen bosses (Ou exclude). I don't have any data to support this, it's my gut impression based on what people have been reporting and I'm forward about that.

My friend got a dagon breastplate from trove, he has 4 characters to do it on though, he got it from a venus orb.

I think the going theory is ~1% drop rate on body, where the hands are closer to 5%. (also hands can drop in the 2nd slot also)

Did 2 mars orbs, exited when I got "loud thud" no body just got defiant sacrf, sack of Leaforb stones +1 and Sack of Snowlit stones +1

I don't have any body piece at all. Is the drop not 100%?

Haven't been particularly lucky with this event so far.
Altough I only had 4 attempts:

1) Mars Orb, Mimic on first chest
2) Venus Orb, Mimic on 6th chest, no thuds.
3) Venus Orb, Mimic on uhm... 4th chest? Or 5th? Think it was 4th, had a thud (normal, not loud)
4) Mars Orb, Mimic on 6th chest, had one thud, not loud.

I'm so doing it wrong! Yeah?

should have opened on normal thud

So what’s the general consensus right now? Mars or Venus?

Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up.

I mean nothing in this game is /100, it's either out of /256 or /1024 so I'm assuming it's like 2or3/246 or probably 10/1024

Sucked it up and did RoE to blow another 18 orbs, finally saw an Omen body(nisroch, loud thud). Puts me at 1/258 if my char math is right. Interestingly, also saw a Makora Meikogai after getting 9 noises and exiting. Not sure if the 9 noise is a special case, but I would certainly think the Meikogai qualifies as a high quality drop. May be cheating ourselves by treating noises as worthless.

Did some runs with a group, and got killed by Ker-thwack even though we had RR up. It still wiped RR, but also KO'd us, so there was no way to recover.