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String Theory: A Puppetmaster's Guide *NEW*
By Ermah 2020-08-14 11:37:49
Thanks! I'm kinda surprised how little buffs help and how low the damage caps. >.< I imagine the skillchain damage of the speed loader adds a ton?
Pet gear being the WS pet gear, right and not the tp gear?
By kasnuaku 2020-08-14 13:05:15
companions roll is really good for more damage then the drachens roll given on the parse. Acc is not a problem for pets imo
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By Leviathan.Restrat 2020-08-14 14:38:27
For puppet DDing, is using a well augment Taeon body going to be better or Relic +3?
By Aerix 2020-08-14 15:40:28
Thanks! I'm kinda surprised how little buffs help and how low the damage caps. >.< I imagine the skillchain damage of the speed loader adds a ton?
Pet gear being the WS pet gear, right and not the tp gear?
Yes, Speedloaders + 5-step SCs will do massive damage. And yes, it was pet WS gear.
companions roll is really good for more damage then the drachens roll given on the parse. Acc is not a problem for pets imo
Correct, Comp/Beast are ideal. But I was shooting for 1k WSs, not maximum efficiency.
Leviathan.Restrat said: »For puppet DDing, is using a well augment Taeon body going to be better or Relic +3?
Taeon Body is best for a VE body using Bone Crusher or the like, as the DA proc will add a lot more damage than the base stats. Ranged or magic WSs don't benefit from DA.
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By Nariont 2020-08-14 16:06:10
I'm kinda surprised how little buffs help and how low the damage caps.
The "trade off" i guess is that puppet can potentially fire them off much faster compared to other pet jobs, comp roll+DA or STP build puppet is fairly constant WS usage and speedloader does add up pretty fast though sadly puppet is limited to t2 SCs on its own i think aside from using bleh VE WS' to hit darkness
By Ermah 2020-08-14 16:29:29
I think it waits to the end of the 10 second window with the speedloader, right?
By Nariont 2020-08-14 16:32:01
on the initial SC itll wait 5~s in the window but every following SC its as soon as the window is open and its able to do so from what i remember
By ksoze 2020-08-17 09:02:39
dear SE 99 stacking oils pls :D
By Aerix 2020-08-17 13:27:48
dear SE 99 stacking oils pls :D
They asked us about 99 stacking items a while ago on Reddit before they patched Skirmish stones and such to stack. Both Siviard and I requested Automaton Oils to be stackable, but they seem to have ignored us completely.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2020-08-17 13:48:06
Yup, this has irked me for ages. IIRC, back in the old days, people asking about this and the devs actually responding something to the effect of not wanting to mess with crafting economy (obviously a garbage explanation, but that's what they said). People raised it again around the time they added Curio Vendor Moogles and added tons of once crafting-exclusive stuff, to no avail.
I've just picked up BST as a job for fun, and holy hell, the inventory hit from jugs and pet food is ridiculous. They really, really, really need to address things for BST jugs (learnable "spells" and maybe a universal jug?)... and it would be pretty natural to up the pet food and Automaton oil stacking to 99 as part of that QoL clean-up.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-18 08:15:34
Aerix, What would you suggest as a dual tank set if you don't have access to Heyoka +1 and don't have a belt +1?
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By Aerix 2020-08-18 08:45:48
You could just use the NQ versions of the same gear. There's only a relatively small difference in stats that won't break you.
If you don't even have the JP yet then it's a setup that probably won't work too well for you anyway. You don't really need a tankmaton for CPing and for group play you'd be much safer playing purely in pet burn mode.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-18 08:57:09
You could just use the NQ versions of the same gear. There's only a relatively small difference in stats that won't break you.
If you don't even have the JP yet then it's a setup that probably won't work too well for you anyway. You don't really need a tankmaton for CPing and for group play you'd be much safer playing purely in pet burn mode.
Perfect ty. Yeah my pup is mastered and I have all the malignance. But the +1's are hard to obtain.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-20 12:35:15
Hey guys. With the help of Arrchie and his auto enmity/weaponskill swaps, I created a simple pup lua that I am enjoying.
In short, nothing is automatic except the enmity and ws swaps.
master sets are keybind f9
idles are keybind f10
I think others may like this as well.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19r-E2leFqanLSFI-ICIPBHcvUGJfhcgR/view?usp=sharing
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By Sylph.Atigev 2020-08-23 09:05:21
Seidell that is awesome actually I have that other lua and honestly it was to much, keep it simple I like it! Only I would want to look into and Imay shoot you a tell in game, the one thing I had in my OLD lua's for pup that lost, was my buddy and I had it set up to engage the auto when you engaged, was wanting to look into this for bst too actually. Thanks for this Think I am going to switch to it.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 09:16:24
Thank you sir! I thought about that an that was why I did the keybind for F9. It is a bit confusing but I got use to it, what I do it match my f9 to my f10 if I plan on engaging but I believe using an engaged bind like f11 may make it easier.
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By Sylph.Atigev 2020-08-23 09:28:22
That was one I thing I liked bc honestly lol there are more times than i care to admit where i totally forget to engage the auto lol if im CPing or something lol
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 09:40:38
Oh I misread what you said. Now that I had some ounces of coffee I can see clearly now......lol
I actually like that idea, for me, i soloed CP but the same thing happens in Dynamis-D. I like the idea lol
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By Sylph.Atigev 2020-08-23 10:24:57
Yeah it was nice, it didnt do anythng fancy just something to help a bit, especially with my memory how it is at times, It wouldnt re engage if you had links and auto targeted but was all good it did what i needed it too, then i lost it lol
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By Odin.Tasukaru 2020-08-23 11:13:55
Gonna sound stupid, but its been quite a while since I actually farmed beastman seals; whats the most efficient way of farming them without seal exchange for Up in Arms? I was thinking bibiki bay, or maybe wajam woodlands at first, but I didnt know if thats more crests than seals. Thanks in advance.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 11:19:59
Gonna sound stupid, but its been quite a while since I actually farmed beastman seals; that the most efficient way of farming them without seal exchange for Up in Arms? I was thinking bibiki bay, or maybe wajam woodlands at first, but I didnt know if thats more crests than seals. Thanks in advance.
From BG regarding Beastmen's Seals: Can be obtained by defeating any monster level 1-75 that checks Easy Prey or higher.
So at 99 I believe this is impossible.
By Nariont 2020-08-23 11:25:14
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By Odin.Tasukaru 2020-08-23 11:27:28
They're available via login points? I never really noticed since I dont venture down that low. Interesting; ty much.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 13:44:48
Yeah it was nice, it didnt do anythng fancy just something to help a bit, especially with my memory how it is at times, It wouldnt re engage if you had links and auto targeted but was all good it did what i needed it too, then i lost it lol
Atigev, here you go. I am going to test it now myself.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gwli-fX2PHjeOUq-mXyDkMfhINh_550-/view?usp=sharing
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 14:10:27
Auto Deploy is working as it should. All is right with the world XD
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 14:41:10
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-08-23 14:47:36
Gonna sound stupid, but its been quite a while since I actually farmed beastman seals; that the most efficient way of farming them without seal exchange for Up in Arms? I was thinking bibiki bay, or maybe wajam woodlands at first, but I didnt know if thats more crests than seals. Thanks in advance.
From BG regarding Beastmen's Seals: Can be obtained by defeating any monster level 1-75 that checks Easy Prey or higher.
So at 99 I believe this is impossible. Anything that checked EP at 75 should still be considered EP at 99, they did that for magian trials and seals. I don't recall if item level had an effect or not, though.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-23 23:49:57
Aerix, what is the BiS hybrid build? The list you have in your list or the one on the BG guide?
By Aerix 2020-08-24 00:08:09
Aerix, what is the BiS hybrid build? The list you have in your list or the one on the BG guide?
What kind of Hybrid build are you referring to specfiically? Hybrid as in the usual definition of decent DT with melee stats or Hybrid as in "Dual TP" so both master and pet can TP quickly (without DT)?
I don't keep all of my public sets updated and sorted out due to time/laziness, unfortunately. Some are just experimental, too.
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By Sylph.Seidell 2020-08-24 00:38:14
Hybrid TP without DT
>> Click Here to view the guide over at BG Wiki <<
Last Update: 26th April 2019
I'd like to give a big shout-out to all the Puppetmasters, old or new, who have been relentlessly sharing their PUP knowledge and findings online in order to help me write this guide.
Cheers!
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