Random Politics & Religion #33: Donald John Trump Is The 45th And Current President Of The United States. All Of Your Viewpoints Are Invalid.

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Random Politics & Religion #33: Donald John Trump is the 45th and current President of the United States. All of your viewpoints are invalid.
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By clearlyamule 2018-04-10 20:20:52
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The appreciation on a physical item is not taxable. When it is sold it is taxable as capital gains.
Not the case here but except when related to property
 
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-04-10 23:39:20
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And the only reason you don’t care is trump... you were saying Hillary should go to prison for this and now with trump it doesn’t seem to be an issue... that or whatever other excuse someone has come up with...

This one isn’t you but I always love the it’s only detestable if you cheat on your wife while you’re the president... if you’re not the president at the time then it’s ok... defending their hatred of bill while justifying their support for trump...

Everyone’s been so hypocritical at one point or another it’s become pretty hard to call anyone out for anything lol...

Umm, yeah, no. I never said that Hillary should to go to prison for contributions to the foundation specifically. That's not to say that the Clinton Foundation wasn't involved in shady/illegal stuff, however....
I guess I get all mixed up with who chants the whole lock her up ***and/or why each person wanted her locked up lol... so if the Clinton foundation is involved in shady/illegal stuff what do you think should happen to the clintons?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-04-10 23:41:19
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Hm, beyond the taxi medallions, it seems Cohen was working out of the Squire, Patton and Boggs law offices, which are the lawyers for Cambridge Analytica, and the main lobbyists for Russia's Gazprom oil company. So here, now, we have a solid link to Russia and to Cambridge Analytica, beyond John Bolton.

Thank you, Candlejack, for that excellent demonstration of how the topic of Russian collusion has jumped the shark and is basically now just a meme.

You see, folks, just because you can successfully play a game of "Six Degrees of Vladimir Bacon" doesn't mean that you suddenly have a bombshell. And when you don't have a clue how anything in the real world works (like our friend here), it's best to just stop acting like a hyperactive chihuahua anytime you hear the word "Russia", give it a rest, and let it just play out.

You don't want to be the guy with hundreds of posts about how Mueller's going to nail Trump any day now just to have the same hundreds of posts quoted back at you if (and likely when) it turns out to be a major flop.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-04-10 23:45:46
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
And the only reason you don’t care is trump... you were saying Hillary should go to prison for this and now with trump it doesn’t seem to be an issue... that or whatever other excuse someone has come up with...

This one isn’t you but I always love the it’s only detestable if you cheat on your wife while you’re the president... if you’re not the president at the time then it’s ok... defending their hatred of bill while justifying their support for trump...

Everyone’s been so hypocritical at one point or another it’s become pretty hard to call anyone out for anything lol...

Umm, yeah, no. I never said that Hillary should to go to prison for contributions to the foundation specifically. That's not to say that the Clinton Foundation wasn't involved in shady/illegal stuff, however....
I guess I get all mixed up with who chants the whole lock her up ***and/or why each person wanted her locked up lol... so if the Clinton foundation is involved in shady/illegal stuff what do you think should happen to the clintons?

I only ask for the impossible, a.k.a. a fair and thorough investigation.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-04-10 23:59:23
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Foreign governments are finding ways to do favors for Trump’s business
McClatchy

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WASHINGTON - In Indonesia, a local government plans to build a road to shorten the drive between the main airport on the island of Bali and the new high-end Trump resort and golf course.

In Panama, the country’s federal government intervened to ensure a sewer system around a 70-story Trump skyscraper shaped like a sail in Panama City would be completed.

And in other countries, governments have donated public land, approved permits and eased environmental regulations for Trump-branded developments, creating a slew of potential conflicts as foreign leaders make investments that can be seen as gifts or attempts to gain access to the American president through his sprawling business empire....
Emollients clause stuff. Please do read on.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-04-11 00:20:58
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If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
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By fonewear 2018-04-11 08:46:20
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I think if CJ didn't post he would run through the streets naked saying the Russians are coming the Russians are coming. Wait he probably already did that.
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By fonewear 2018-04-11 08:47:01
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He is like Paul Revere if he didn't take his medication....
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By fonewear 2018-04-11 08:49:49
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It's all a Russian conspiracy to get vodka prices to a reasonable price in Moscow so the can tolerated the terrible winter...or so the legend says...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-04-11 09:20:04
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
I have said before that I have yet to see an impeachable offense.

I post articles I find interesting.This does not mean I have any investment in them.
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By fonewear 2018-04-11 09:25:48
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If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
I have said before that I have yet to see an impeachable offense.

I post articles I find interesting.This does not mean I have any investment in them.

Could you post articles that the rest of us might find interesting ?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-04-11 10:19:06
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Candlejack said: »
fonewear said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
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If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
I have said before that I have yet to see an impeachable offense.

I post articles I find interesting.This does not mean I have any investment in them.

Could you post articles that the rest of us might find interesting ?
I could, but then we'd all be reading about George from Men's Wearhouse anally raping a dying horse in the backroom of a Popeye's Chicken joint.

You wrote an autobiography?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-04-11 11:06:02
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Former House Speaker Boehner 'has evolved' on marijuana

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(CNN)John Boehner is heading for the boardroom of a cannabis company, the former Speaker of the House announced Wednesday.

"I'm joining the board of #AcreageHoldings because my thinking on cannabis has evolved," the Ohio Republican tweeted. " I'm convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic ravaging our communities."

Boehner, who served as Speaker from 2011 until his resignation from Congress in 2015, was appointed to the board of advisers at Acreage Holdings, a multi-state cannabis business that aims to "make cannabis available to any patient who can benefit from safe and reliable access."

His decision to join the board is a marked shift -- in 2009, Boehner said he was "unalterably opposed" to legalization, according to Bloomberg....
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-04-11 11:24:14
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Hopefully the rest of the right will get on board with full legalization. Ever since the "War on Drugs" started we've had nothing but a rampant increase in the social costs of drug use due to the economic benefit from the black market created. Police now go around assuming every person is a hostile armed drug dealing waiting to kill them, and thus Police brutality and overuse of deadly force has happened. Prison is now filled with minor drug offenders thanks to "hard on drugs" laws and due to them having such a record they are now unemployable by legitimate business's, resulting in them turning right back to the black market. Drug dealers and gangs don't care if you have drug related convictions, in fact it's a positive for them.

Just overall legalization and taxation would solve far more issues then it creates. Revenues can be used for state education programs, Police force can be de-militarized, prisons emptied and many unemployable people made employable. Courts empties of all the minor drug related offenses and so forth.
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By fonewear 2018-04-11 13:04:10
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Candlejack said: »
fonewear said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
I have said before that I have yet to see an impeachable offense.

I post articles I find interesting.This does not mean I have any investment in them.

Could you post articles that the rest of us might find interesting ?
I could, but then we'd all be reading about George from Men's Wearhouse anally raping a dying horse in the backroom of a Popeye's Chicken joint.

You wrote an autobiography?
Candlejack said: »
fonewear said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If you're now staking your hopes of a Trump impeachment on emoluments clause violations, you're looking at an even bigger pipe dream than Russian collusion. The clause is vague, extremely difficult to prosecute, and most cases get tossed out by judges before they see the light of day.
I have said before that I have yet to see an impeachable offense.

I post articles I find interesting.This does not mean I have any investment in them.

Could you post articles that the rest of us might find interesting ?
I could, but then we'd all be reading about George from Men's Wearhouse anally raping a dying horse in the backroom of a Popeye's Chicken joint.

Probably be reading a prescription of Prozac followed by heavy drinking of Jack Daniels...wait that is my autobiography
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-04-11 13:29:13
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DirectX said: »
Aren't all drugs a black market if they're illegal?

Your statement makes no sense, it's like asking if the sky is blue.
 
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You're saying there is a black market for drugs because of the war on drugs. Surely the drugs sold before the "war on drugs" were black market also, hence your understanding makes no sense.

black market
noun
an illegal traffic or trade in officially controlled or scarce commodities.

I find the term black market offensive.
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-04-11 13:44:31
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You're saying there is a black market for drugs because of the war on drugs

no, he's saying that convicted felons (convicted of drug offenses) are returning to dealing drugs (the black market) because they can't find gainful corporate employment with a criminal record.

mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines enacted during the "war on drugs" have created a vicious cycle of criminality
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-04-11 14:23:23
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DirectX said: »
You're saying there is a black market for drugs because of the war on drugs. Surely the drugs sold before the "war on drugs" were black market also, hence your understanding makes no sense.

black market
noun
an illegal traffic or trade in officially controlled or scarce commodities.

Drugs =/= illegal substances. The black market is merely a term referencing the natural market that occurs when there is a large demand for illicit substances. Prior to the "War on Drugs" such a market existed but the social costs were relatively small due to lax enforcement. Go back further prior to prohibition and the social costs were practically non-existent by comparison.
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Ok at a computer so can type fully. My post was about social costs which break down into two separate categories.

The first is the use of excessive force by the Police due to them "fighting a war" everyday against invisible "drug bad guys". They are trained that every person who isn't a uniformed police officer is an invisible treat and should be treated as such. This is because violent drug dealers are generally indistinguishable from regular civilians on a day to day basis. The black youth the police offer is pulling over might be an innocent university kid or an armed drug dealer and because the office has no real way to distinguish between them they assume the later and are trained to respond to potential life threatening situations with extreme lethality. The police are in a catch-22, if they don't assume everyone is going to shoot them, then they will miss the one who is going to shoot them and end up dead.

The second is the massive prison population and resulting massive unemployable population it creates. Someone gets baged for possession and gets a six month suspended sentence (extremely light punishment), congrats they now have a drug related conviction on their record and will be lucky to work menial jobs for the rest of their life. Or they can join a gang and get far better economic reward. This is why California is pushing to remove minor drug related convictions from people's records. These are majority black youths which results in a huge number of black children growing up without a father figure which results in even more crime and social problems.

Both of those issues snowball into the multifaceted shitfest we have now. Deschedule it and treat cannabis the same as Alcohol and Tobacco, taxed with a minimum age requirement for purchase. Instead of someone buying from the local drug dealer they would buy from the local Cannabis / Convenience store. Social problems solved with an economic windfall for education institutions.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-04-11 17:20:37
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So, the goal is to make the raid seem as petty and pointless as possible? Do they even know what they're investigating anymore?

What's their next move, raiding NBC offices for hilarious outtakes from "The Apprentice"?
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