Random Politics & Religion #33: Donald John Trump Is The 45th And Current President Of The United States. All Of Your Viewpoints Are Invalid.

Legal experts are already saying that Trump's EO isn't even gonna make it to the weekend before being struck down. So essentially he didn't do anything, but the fix remains easy, and it doesn't involve Congress.

What pray tell does that non sequitur have to do with the price of cheese in China?

Honestly the children's' facility just looked like a big school with walls. My understanding is that it's staffed primarily with child care workers and few security personal. It still sucks for them to be separated cause that's a traumatic event all by itself, but the facilities are far from being "concentration camps". That's just Chanti trying to pick a fight.

Totally different tangent, just watched the double feature on Thermopylae by Extra History. The real battle was so much cooler then some Hollywood movie. The Spartans, while being paranoid ***, were ridiculously good at fighting.

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I mean look at Spartan history. Trained from birth to be warriors.

Actually Obama tried putting whole families in jail together. That didn't work out too well either, although not near THIS badly.

That led to catch and release. Again less than a wonderful solution.

There are no good solutions that do not involve a time machine and perhaps not even then.

But putting children in concentration camps, no mater with how many mattresses and toys, where the guards can't even comfort the ones who cry, and are ordered to separate any who are hugging each other, is the absolute worst solution ever.

P. S. Saevel, if picking fights is the only way to open your eyes I will pick fights.

And to defend against a possible uprising from the helot slaves they used. The Spartans were originally invaders who took the "we're not from here" ***seriously. They subjugated the locales and turned them into a slave force that powered the Spartan city state. The reason they were trained from birth to be warriors is they had the local helots enslaved to do everything else.

No one is going to take you seriously when you call day care a "concentration camp". That's known as going full retard, and we all know you never go full retard.

I'll fight you outside 3 pm playground...bare knuckle boxing.

This part you have totally right.

"Day care"? "DAY CARE"?

Day care workers are encouraged to comfort crying children. Its part of the job description. These concentration camp guards are prohibited from comforting crying children.

And none of them signed up to be concentration camp guards. Several have quit over it.

Within three days, children are supposed to be transferred from immigration detention to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services.

For 15 years, ORR has handled the "care and placement" of unaccompanied migrant children. Until recently, that usually meant minors who crossed into the U.S. alone. Now it also includes children who have been separated from their families by authorities, including much younger children.

On a call with reporters on Tuesday, a Border Patrol official said that it's a matter of "discretion" how young is too young for a child to be separated from their parents. In general, he said, the age of 5 has been used as a benchmark, with children younger than that called "tender-aged."

The CEO of Southwest Key, which operates 26 ORR shelters, tells NPR the children at his facilities range from ages "zero to 17."

On the same call, an HHS official said that some of the ORR shelters are specifically equipped to take care of children younger than 13. He provided few details and could not say how many children under 13, under 5 or under 2 are currently being held by HHS.

ORR has a network of about 100 shelter facilities, all operated by nonprofit groups, where children are detained.

NPR's John Burnett recently joined other reporters to visit one such facility, a converted Walmart Supercenter housing nearly 1,500 boys ages 10 to 17. Journalists' access to that facility in Brownsville, Texas, was limited, but the site was markedly different from CBP facilities seen in photos released by the government — the teenage boys slept on beds instead of mats on the floor, in rooms instead of cages, and had access to classes and games.

ORR says children remain at these shelters for "fewer than 57 days on average." However some children have been kept detained for months longer than that, and some advocates say certain facilities improperly administer psychotropic medications.

Observers have raised concerns about the psychological toll on young children who enter this shelter system. NPR's Joel Rose talked to one former shelter employee who said he quit after he was instructed to prevent siblings from hugging each other. The organization that runs the shelter said it allows touching and hugging in certain circumstances.

Ultimately, ORR tries to find family members, foster parents or sponsors to take in children. Parents are the preferred option, but that has not a possibility for children who have been separated from parents who remain in detention.

It is not clear if, under Trump's new policy, separated children might still be placed with sponsors or if they will all return to detention with their parents.

There is no time limit on how long it can take to find a home for a child, but again, ORR says that on average the process takes less than two months.

By law, those relatives or sponsors must, among other requirements, show that they can provide for the minor — sometimes verified with home visits — and ensure the minor's attendance at any future court hearing.

Totally different tangent, just watched the double feature on Thermopylae by Extra History. The real battle was so much cooler then some Hollywood movie. The Spartans, while being paranoid ***, were ridiculously good at fighting.

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Since Saevel isn't bothering to post his links, just take them with a grain of salt as well.

NPR. I think that's leftist enough for you.

America's 'Detention Centers' Added to Wikipedia List of Concentration Camps
Gizmodo

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NPR. I think that's leftist enough for you.

Look rare footage from inside the Trump Immigration Concentration Camps