Random Politics & Religion #32

Just because I disagree with you on many things, doesn't mean I don't agree with you on some. Remember I'm not American and don't identify as either right or left, democrat or republican.
Also doesn't mean I'm libertarian.

I think FOX news is a joke 95% of the time. The other 5% it is either half truths at best, or half lies. I hate Rupert Murdoch. I think he is the scum of the earth.

This entire bipartisan party politics thing is out of control. There's always areas of agreement between opponents.

Having said that, the U.S has been plagued internally by liberal media for the past 2 decades that have been pushing forward an agenda that the majority of americans didn't subscribe to.

Social engineering. They normalised things under the guise of "progression" when it was anything but that.

Liberal policies have obliterated the family unit. Society in the U.S is not better off today than it was 30 years ago. It is worse.

Let's also not forget that the 2008 financial crisis was 100% attributed to Bill Clinton and his policies. That financial crisis is something we will probably never fully recover from in our lifetime, and that is measurable and quantifiable.

What isn't measurable is the resulting wars that have or will come as a direct result because hey politics and lies. The true effects on people's lives and their suffering as a result is also hard to measure.

That big *** deficit the U.S is running is certainly measurable. And while Clinton and the democrats aren't entirely to blame (Regan, Carter, Nixon, JFK also had a large role), they most certainly made it at least twice as bad with their policies.

Anyways, enough American politics for me.


Back to normal time: Israel is an evil state. Israel is your overlord Americans. American slaves. work hard and feed Israel.

It's good to have you back dude.
And good to see something reasonable like this said every once in a while.

Let's play a little game. Which is the more likely scenario?

1. Your party is nearly always right, the opposing party is always wrong. Any time a member of your party says or does something wrong, it's okay because the other side always has worse examples. The media on your side is not biased, or if it is it's okay because it's still better than the media on the other side because at least your side is almost always telling the truth.

2. Both sides are deeply flawed. Each side has policies that, if left unchecked and allowed to be taken to the extreme, could have devastating consequences.

The way I see it, if you can only see the good in one side and the bad in the other, you have allowed yourself to be indoctrinated to an unhealthy degree.

American politics are so incredibly divisive and biased that they're turning nearly everyone who cares enough to talk politics into mindless idiots. I've played sides in here for more posts than I can count, but occasionally I try to bring things back into focus and encourage middle ground discussions.... to no avail. Maybe it's time for another go?

I mean seriously, what are we doing in here? Those who complain about other people and how stupid they must be to belong to the Right or Left, when is the last time that you actually complained about one of the many things wrong with your own party? I can only thing of a few people in here who have. While there are a few unfortunate exceptions, I think most of us have the capacity to address real issues if we can just pull our heads out of our butts for 20 minutes.

2.

1 also happens but 2 is the more important.

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God forbid that would actually lead to a voting base that hold their parties/elected officials accountable to their will, as opposed to blindly cheering for their "team".

Thanks bro but I'm probably just visiting these old grounds for a little bit.
Work is kicking my ***. Healthcare Marketing might just be my kryptonite. Nothing is this *** hard..nothing...

1 pretty much describes Fox News, Breitbart, etc from the PoV of anyone who isn't on Trump's team.

Trump is borderline extremist on the right. The left also has extremists in the form of SJWs. The big difference is that while extremists on the right are pretty well educated to the point of having money or being in a prerequisite position to be capable of actually executing a presidential campaign, be it failed or successful, the extremists on the left are less likely to because they get degrees in things like art and gender studies. It's more likely for an extremist on the right to rise to such a position than it is for one on the right.

The neocons were extremists. Trump's policy approach is timid. He's just addressing divisive topics that needed to be addressed. Trump isn't even teaparty material.

We live in the age of SJWs. They are batshit crazy and detached from reality. Everything is controversial and extreme today because special snowflake is offended.

This would be accurate if the legislative branch under Clinton was majority Democrat. However it leaned more towards Republican. He had to contend with a “Super Majority”. That’s not to say he wasn’t an agent of Corporatism or a puppet of the WTO and IMF. Because he was. It’s interesting how this history is being “revised”, though. Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed Glass-Steagall was authored by Republicans and passed with 90-8 vote in the House it was passed 362-57. It was unvetoable.

It’s much like how partisan pundits of horse race politics solely attribute NAFTA to Clinton (for signing it) while overlooking George HW Bushes involvement in it’s authorship. Or that it was passed by legislative branch before Clinton took oath of office etc.

If you believe this then your incredibly out of touch with reality.

Trump is not a Republican, the Republicans feel he is far too moderate. His actual policies are quite moderate, he just doesn't shy away from touchy topics. The only reason you think he's a "borderline extremest" is because he won the election and the talking heads are telling you to think this.

The fact that you only named Fox News and Breitbart in light of my previous post kinda shows that you missed the point....

Fixed

Do the words Mena Intermountain Municipal Airport mean anything to you?

You might also wish to read Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA by Terry Reed. Clinton haters would love it BTW.

It kinda proves your point, he's far into the #1 territory of extremest zealot but wants to convince himself that he's fair and moderate. They will say they are moderate while acting like extremists.

Yeah but you can't say Trump is extreme when you listen to the likes of Schumer, Pelosi and especially Maxine Waters. They are beyond bat ***crazy especially Waters. Who's the woman with the hats from I think Florida, there's another one.

Both sides have the far reaching people but you cannot say that Republicans have more.

Frederica Wilson. I think her hats are great!

I can say the republicans have more on two counts.

1, they have more people in congress than the dems. So given the same percentage of crazy, the GOP has to win.

2, they have a whole caucus of crazy, the "freedom" caucus.

Talk about Feminism and you're a sexist pig.
Correct behaviour: Support feminism blindly, even if it is at the expense of everyone else, including women.

Talk about Transgenders and you're a bigot.
Correct behaviour: Learn new pronouns and make sure you use the right one. Support a transgender female in Mixed Martial arts who batters her non-transgender opponents, fractures their skulls and say nope, biology doesnt exist.

Talk about facts with pay-gap and you're an oppressor.
Correct behaviour: Turn a blind eye to all the controlled studies that prove women actually outearn men in similar situations.

Talk about minority racism and you're a privileged white supremacist.
Correct behaviour: If you're a white male say sorry to every person of color you see and damn your ancestors.

Talk about Zionism and Israel and you're an anti-semite.
Correct behaviour: If you're a palestinian just save them the bullets and kill yourself.

Talk about the flaws in political party "X"
or "Y" and you're an extremist, communist, socialist,nazi, Fascist, Anarchist.
Correct behaviour: Just watch football and leave the politics to the politicians. Who cares right?

Talk about Religious values and you're stupid because Science bro.
Correct behaviour: Hang posters of Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins on your car and buy their books so you can display it in your office so everyone knows you're cool and a sheep just like them.

*** this age, probably be labeled the age of smart idiots.

Poverty isn't free. It costs way too much money.

Hula fish. Does they even?

I don't pop in here often, if at all. But, for whatever reason, I figured I'd stop by and take a peek... And I am very pleasantly surprised that, at least this page (I haven't looked back), is quite sensible. I just wanted to say so. Kudos to y'all!

As far as which news sources are garbage and which aren't... My folks believe everything Rush feeds them. So, I try to keep up with Fox, just so I can prepare myself for their PoV and foundation of understanding. As for my bias, I prefer to read NPR and Politico.
On March 24th, if you Googled Fox News, the top story was "Red Lobster to debut Cheddar Bay Biscuit Waffles" followed by "Rising cacti theft sparks plant microchipping at Arizona national park."
Compare that to Politico's "Emotions run high at mass gun demonstration" and "The Lessons of a School Shooting--in 1853." and NPR's "Hundreds of Thousands March For Gun Control Across the U.S." and "Watch: 'March For Our Lives' Rally in Washington, D.C."

I dunno, acknowledging your own bias isn't allowed in here. Throw your best team hat on, and everyone who disagree with you is the biggest idiot in history.

Or just stop worrying about what other people think of you and embrace a life of evil.....

or at the very least quit crying about it like a pussy.

cheesewhiz cripes...you weenies wound not have lasted twelve minutes in the eighties.

/butterfly kisses the booboos

Welcome back Niky.

They wouldn't have lasted 5 minuets in '68.

some of us remember the 80's perfectly

I was not however around for the 60's

Yeah and the seventies were no picnic either...

I just don't understand how these kids aren't walking around with the back of their underwear pulled up and over their freshly swirlied heads.

Aren't their any jocks any more!?