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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-19 16:57:32
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House approves Trump's massive tax overhaul, but last-minute glitch delays final passage
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WASHINGTON — The House on Tuesday passed the most significant overhaul of the tax code in three decades, but the bill hit a late-afternoon glitch in the Senate when the parliamentarian ruled that three minor provisions in the GOP bill did not comply with strict budget rules and would have to be stripped out....
The article doesn't say what they are though.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-19 16:59:33
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Paged!

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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:03:16
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Also Santa Claus is black and plays for the Lakers.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:06:04
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I'm too privileged to realize how privileged I am !

We laugh but Zero, Sparth and several others have made the exact same claim. That all white people enjoy unearned privilege and their inherent whiteness prevents them from knowing it. It's ludicrous and right up there with "cultural appropriation" in it's insanity.

I'm so white I could be the leader of the Aryan race.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-19 17:06:23
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White House to 'temporarily' shut petition website
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The White House has said it will be shutting down its website for petitions from midnight on Tuesday until a new one is set up in late January.

The "We The People" site was set up by the Obama administration in 2011.

It promised a response to all petitions drawing more than 100,000 signatures but the Trump administration has not responded to any since January.

The White House said its new platform would save taxpayers more than $1m (£746,500) a year.

The total budget of the White House for 2018 is $55m and its information technology budget for the year is $4.94m.

A White House official told the Associated Press news agency that the administration would "respond to public concerns next year" and that all existing petitions would be reinstated then.

The petition platform was set up under Barack Obama in 2011 as part of his digital democracy initiative.

At the time, the White House said that the platform would "give all Americans a way to create and sign petitions on a range of issues affecting our nation".

If a petition receives more than 100,000 signatures within a 30-day period, the White House is supposed to issue an official response to it.

Since January, popular petitions that have drawn the required number of signatures include one that calls for President Trump's resignation and another that demands he release his tax returns.

However, since the start of the Trump administration, all of the petitions that have met this threshold have gone unanswered.

The site has been successful at highlighting issues affecting under-represented groups in particular.

In 2015, in response to the petition posted on the site after the death of a transgender teenager, President Obama called for an end to "conversion therapy" for gay and transgender teens.

They should shut it down. I get about 10 spam emails a day for dumb *** liberal petitions like "recognize 50millions genders" or "recognize animalkin."

The whole deal is just a way for liberals to cry and protest without leaving their parents basement. It's a who's who of psych disorders.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:06:51
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I'm not going to apologize for being white either *** that. I don't give a *** about your problems. We all got problems and your problems aren't mine.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:13:17
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Odin.Slore said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
White House to 'temporarily' shut petition website
BBC

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The White House has said it will be shutting down its website for petitions from midnight on Tuesday until a new one is set up in late January.

The "We The People" site was set up by the Obama administration in 2011.

It promised a response to all petitions drawing more than 100,000 signatures but the Trump administration has not responded to any since January.

The White House said its new platform would save taxpayers more than $1m (£746,500) a year.

The total budget of the White House for 2018 is $55m and its information technology budget for the year is $4.94m.

A White House official told the Associated Press news agency that the administration would "respond to public concerns next year" and that all existing petitions would be reinstated then.

The petition platform was set up under Barack Obama in 2011 as part of his digital democracy initiative.

At the time, the White House said that the platform would "give all Americans a way to create and sign petitions on a range of issues affecting our nation".

If a petition receives more than 100,000 signatures within a 30-day period, the White House is supposed to issue an official response to it.

Since January, popular petitions that have drawn the required number of signatures include one that calls for President Trump's resignation and another that demands he release his tax returns.

However, since the start of the Trump administration, all of the petitions that have met this threshold have gone unanswered.

The site has been successful at highlighting issues affecting under-represented groups in particular.

In 2015, in response to the petition posted on the site after the death of a transgender teenager, President Obama called for an end to "conversion therapy" for gay and transgender teens.

They should shut it down. I get about 10 spam emails a day for dumb *** liberal petitions like "recognize 50millions genders" or "recognize animalkin."

The whole deal is just a way for liberals to cry and protest without leaving their parents basement. It's a who's who of psych disorders.

They do realize that signing a petition is a waste of time and doesn't accomplish anything. They might as well post a thread here calling for Trump to resign.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-19 17:14:00
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I would like some of that white privilege to pay back all my student loans that the Army did not cover. I think this whole argument is *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I served with one of my good friends Greg who is black, came from Detroit. He served with me for 8 years got out and became a lawyer. He never knew his father and was raised on welfare by a single mom. He just moved his mom to NY where he practices as a lawyer.

I think everyone has the same chances to excel as everyone else. I came from nothing my dad was a factory worker and my mom did not work. They did not have the money to send us kids to college, I have a older sister and older brother. My brother joined the air force and I joined the Army. You do what you have to do to get ahead, legally! I busted my *** for what I have and I refuse to apologize for that.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-19 17:14:39
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fonewear said: »
I'm not going to apologize for being white either *** that.

Are we supposed to? I missed the memo. This can't be trump's doing...
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:15:28
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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I'm not going to apologize for being white either *** that.

Are we supposed to? I missed the memo. This can't be trump's doing...

I'm sure there was a memo...I'll just find it.
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By clearlyamule 2017-12-19 17:17:44
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idk that petition to label antifa has a terrorist group did pretty well. Almost as good as the one to build the death star
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:18:05
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Well Trump is responsible for all racism and or white supremacy.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:19:18
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clearlyamule said: »
idk that petition to label antifa has a terrorist group did pretty well. Almost as good as the one to build the death star

I'm sure North Korea is working on this as we speak.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:20:47
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I wish they would just nuke us and get it over with the suspense is killing me.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:21:29
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We aren't lucky enough to get nuked it will probably be the *** in Japan.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-19 17:21:53
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He never knew his father and was raised on welfare by a single mom.

to be fair, most of those kids are pretty ***, regardless of race. your homie was the exception rather than the norm. I watched a bunch of white kids fail at life with no fathers and too busy / disinterested mothers. that really sets a person up for abject failure. it has far more to do with poverty and shattered families than it has to do with race.
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:28:09
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Well the single mother thing is an epidemic. And I don't blame father's for wanting to reason a kid if the mother is a wreck...
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By fonewear 2017-12-19 17:28:47
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wanting to raise *
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-19 17:50:42
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Well the single mother thing is an epidemic. And I don't blame father's for wanting to reason a kid if the mother is a wreck...

Father's don't have a choice, the family courts are staffed almost entirely by SJW's out of university that are trying to fight the patriarchy. A women can be an unemployed convicted drug user and the best the man can hope for is shared custody with weekend visitation rights.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-12-19 19:37:40
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I would like some of that white privilege to pay back all my student loans that the Army did not cover. I think this whole argument is *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I served with one of my good friends Greg who is black, came from Detroit. He served with me for 8 years got out and became a lawyer. He never knew his father and was raised on welfare by a single mom. He just moved his mom to NY where he practices as a lawyer.

I think everyone has the same chances to excel as everyone else. I came from nothing my dad was a factory worker and my mom did not work. They did not have the money to send us kids to college, I have a older sister and older brother. My brother joined the air force and I joined the Army. You do what you have to do to get ahead, legally! I busted my *** for what I have and I refuse to apologize for that.
I don't know how you can directly acknowledge economic privilege but somehow can do the same for racial privilege. It's the exact same concept. All of us here are privileged in some respect. We we're all born into a first world country (presumably) where upward mobility is at least possible as opposed to bring born into some caste system where your position is largly determined at birth. I don't know why the similar (not exact) concept can't exist for certain subpopulations here in the US.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-19 19:50:16
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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I would like some of that white privilege to pay back all my student loans that the Army did not cover. I think this whole argument is *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I served with one of my good friends Greg who is black, came from Detroit. He served with me for 8 years got out and became a lawyer. He never knew his father and was raised on welfare by a single mom. He just moved his mom to NY where he practices as a lawyer.

I think everyone has the same chances to excel as everyone else. I came from nothing my dad was a factory worker and my mom did not work. They did not have the money to send us kids to college, I have a older sister and older brother. My brother joined the air force and I joined the Army. You do what you have to do to get ahead, legally! I busted my *** for what I have and I refuse to apologize for that.
I don't know how you can directly acknowledge economic privilege but somehow can do the same for racial privilege. It's the exact same concept. All of us here are privileged in some respect. We we're all born into a first world country (presumably) where upward mobility is at least possible as opposed to bring born into some caste system where your position is largly determined at birth. I don't know why the similar (not exact) concept can't exist for certain subpopulations here in the US.

Because its all how hard you work. I didn't go to private school I went to public schools, everyone has that same privilege.

I couldn't afford college neither could my parents, so I joined the Army for college money and to learn something. Everyone has that privilege.

I got out of Army, worked hard went to school and worked at the same time. Everyone has that privilege.

I got my Bachelors of Science with Army college fund, GI bill and student loans. Everyone has that privilege.

I hear far to many excuses on why people can't do this or why they can't do that and all it is is excuses. No one paid my way I earned it all and I came from nothing. Get off your *** and do it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-19 20:28:55
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They should shut it down. I get about 10 spam emails a day for dumb *** liberal petitions like "recognize 50millions genders" or "recognize animalkin."
How?

I mean I read liberal news sites (conservative ones too), click on liberal stuff my liberal facebook friends post, and I don't get a single one. I even used to subscribe to the Nation FFS.
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By Anna Ruthven 2017-12-19 20:34:42
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Well the single mother thing is an epidemic. And I don't blame father's for wanting to reason a kid if the mother is a wreck...

Father's don't have a choice, the family courts are staffed almost entirely by SJW's out of university that are trying to fight the patriarchy. A women can be an unemployed convicted drug user and the best the man can hope for is shared custody with weekend visitation rights.
Unless the mom just up and leaves, gives up parental rights.

I hunt with a guy who went through that, was a single father of two boys for like 10 years. He's a good dad and has raised good kids. It's a shame when the courts will take kids from a good father and give them to a ***mother.

To clarify, I talk in past tense because he got married when the boys were around 10 or 11. He still has the boys + their new little brother.
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By clearlyamule 2017-12-19 20:48:50
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
fonewear said: »
Well the single mother thing is an epidemic. And I don't blame father's for wanting to reason a kid if the mother is a wreck...

Father's don't have a choice, the family courts are staffed almost entirely by SJW's out of university that are trying to fight the patriarchy. A women can be an unemployed convicted drug user and the best the man can hope for is shared custody with weekend visitation rights.
Unless the mom just up and leaves, gives up parental rights.
I've heard of times when they tried to take back giving parental rights. That said I got lucky and my mom mouthed off to every judge she ever talked to.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-19 23:18:31
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Unless the mom just up and leaves, gives up parental rights.

That and the mom being in jail are the two ways a normal man can get custody of his kids. The system is so biased its surreal. Male privilege my ***.
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By Nausi 2017-12-20 08:51:42
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I would like some of that white privilege to pay back all my student loans that the Army did not cover. I think this whole argument is *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I served with one of my good friends Greg who is black, came from Detroit. He served with me for 8 years got out and became a lawyer. He never knew his father and was raised on welfare by a single mom. He just moved his mom to NY where he practices as a lawyer.

I think everyone has the same chances to excel as everyone else. I came from nothing my dad was a factory worker and my mom did not work. They did not have the money to send us kids to college, I have a older sister and older brother. My brother joined the air force and I joined the Army. You do what you have to do to get ahead, legally! I busted my *** for what I have and I refuse to apologize for that.
I don't know how you can directly acknowledge economic privilege but somehow can do the same for racial privilege. It's the exact same concept. All of us here are privileged in some respect. We we're all born into a first world country (presumably) where upward mobility is at least possible as opposed to bring born into some caste system where your position is largly determined at birth. I don't know why the similar (not exact) concept can't exist for certain subpopulations here in the US.
Holding the individual members of a race accountable for it's collective crimes is textbook racism, you intolerant bigot.

Why do you hate straight white christian men so much?
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By Nausi 2017-12-20 08:58:17
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Also, do 50% of people really think their taxes are going up from this tax plan?

facts I don't like gonna facts I don't like.

The only people who are really going to see an increase are people who claim ridiculously large state tax deductions AND huge mortgage interest. These include people who own million dollar homes, and live in states where their state income tax is obscene (CA NY).

Until now the rest of us have been subsidizing their state tax deductions. It has been a way that the people of CA and NY can leech money from the rest of us.

http://taxplancalculator.com/
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By Zerowone 2017-12-20 09:02:20
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Nausi said: »
Also, do 50% of people really think their taxes are going up from this tax plan?

facts I don't like gonna facts I don't like.

The only people who are really going to see an increase are people who claim ridiculously large state tax deductions AND huge mortgage interest. These include people who own million dollar homes, and live in states where their state income tax is obscene (CA NY).

Until now the rest of us have been subsidizing their state tax deductions. It has been a way that the people of CA and NY can leech money from the rest of us.

http://taxplancalculator.com/

You know who benefits from this tax plan? The Clinton’s and SOROS.

Good job helping out your villains there guys.
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By Nausi 2017-12-20 09:04:42
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Zerowone said: »
Nausi said: »
Also, do 50% of people really think their taxes are going up from this tax plan?

facts I don't like gonna facts I don't like.

The only people who are really going to see an increase are people who claim ridiculously large state tax deductions AND huge mortgage interest. These include people who own million dollar homes, and live in states where their state income tax is obscene (CA NY).

Until now the rest of us have been subsidizing their state tax deductions. It has been a way that the people of CA and NY can leech money from the rest of us.

http://taxplancalculator.com/

You know who benefits from this tax plan? The Clinton’s and SOROS.

Good job helping out your villains there guys.
We have other plans for them.
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By fonewear 2017-12-20 09:20:50
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Taxes we've gone over this.

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