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My main issue with Limbus is that you get nothing "extra" out of it - you purely get the gear upgrades and nothing else. No bonus items like the Sortie earrings, or Omen detritus, etc.

I suppose the draw is supposed to be the fact that you get decent exp/capacity/exemplar points while doing it, but you technically get those everywhere so it doesn't feel very special. Most other content has some secondary / tertiary things going on along with the primary goals.

You get the crap from the treasure chests!

The Shards are actually worth money and will be forever. The rest of the garbage crafting mats aren't and never will be again.

Limbus is the only event that rewards a reasonable amount of exemplar points for doing it. Depending on whether or not my groups level sync I get anywhere from 50 to 70k exemplar per run. It’s not awesome, but it’s enough to gain quite a few master levels just doing weeklies. The last Mlvl are like 2 to 3 million each which is downright oppressive. A month of sortie on one job will get you there though. Going from m30 range to m45 range is much faster per level and I’ve made a lot of progress on my jobs toward m45 with it. So I can actually appreciate that aspect of limbus.

A month of sortie will not give you 2-3M exemplar.

6 months will give you ~1.5M above ML45.

Try level syncing sometime. If you sync to someone m30 or lower it doesn’t really slow kill speed much, but the exemplat per hour is remarkable better. It still shouldn’t take you half a year without sync, but sync does make it much faster.

Was speaking from personal experience. The times any party I've been in has level synced in Sortie, particularly under ML30 are.. zero, they're zero.

You should strive to -always- be M0

It's not always possible, but it should always be the goal. The difference between M0 and M30 is like 5x

To the point of even purposely deleveling cors to always have the free sync.

I've run with a pretty wide group of people and they often work on leveling lower level jobs. Between my static occasionally swapping in off jobs and the pickups at random levels I occasionally see the sync down in the M20s and rarely teens. Most groups that sync are in the M30 range though but that's still pretty respectable exemplar. Even low m40s is way better than unsynched beyond M45.


M0 is a pipe dream that doesn't happen. By the time you find someone M0 they do a run and they're M3 or 4 by the end of it. Finding fresh M0's is nigh impossible. The goal is to be as low as possible, and on asura at least we have quite a lot of pickup shouts so good exemplar gains aren't that uncommon. I stand by the 50k exemplar/run figure I stated. It's what I'm used to seeing.

You can't sync to ML0 anyway, has to be ML1 or above.

My average in Sortie is ~18k/hr or so at ML50.

Ouch, that's rough. When my static first started syncing we had someone at M20. We averaged closed to 70k/hr. Syncing is a massive enhancement to exemplar. You absolutely can do Mlvls with the right setup.

Of course you can sync to M0 not that there's a nominal difference between 0 and 1 but a phenomenal difference between M0 and M30

Don't make me job change just to do it and post the pic.

Try it.

Youre shitting me right, as if I haven't been rotating M0 characters to get M50s for years



How do you think an M0 becomes an M1, they have to solo 2500 points before they can party?

I was sure I tried that and got a message that you need to be lvl1. Corrected.

If you sync to a level 99 with no job breaker to infinitely get M0 MXP that will break the sync

M0 replaces Lv99

Confirming you can sync to ml0, but you can't sync if they don't have the ability to earn EP.

ItsMe_2026.06.17.log:11:55:10 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Ghrah" (ID: 0x15A) is Impossible to gauge (dist 47.6).
ItsMe_2026.06.17.log:12:45:48 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Orc" (ID: 0x063) is Impossible to gauge (dist 16.7).
ItsMe_2026.06.17.log:13:04:16 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Yagudo" (ID: 0x20C) is Impossible to gauge (dist 6.9).
ItsMe_2026.06.18.log:11:47:19 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Quadav" (ID: 0x1EB) is Impossible to gauge (dist 36.5).
ItsMe_2026.06.18.log:12:47:57 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Quadav" (ID: 0x03D) is Impossible to gauge (dist 19.5).
ItsMe_2026.06.18.log:13:04:43 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Yagudo" (ID: 0x212) is Impossible to gauge (dist 35.3).
ItsMe_2026.06.18.log:16:59:42 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Golem" (ID: 0x0BB) is Impossible to gauge (dist 41.7).
ItsMe_2026.06.18.log:17:22:08 [autocheck] FOUND: "Temenos Euvhi" (ID: 0x172) is Impossible to gauge (dist 41.1).

Thats the ITG I killed in my four clears this week (had a code already, maybe I shoulda saved it for next week). This is the problem with Temenos ???, not the 7 floors. Reducing NEW to 5 floors will alleviate it slightly. Making it not require fifteen *** kills will alleviate said problem greatly.

Presuming theyre going to remove one or two of floors 3 (20 mobs), 4 (20 mobs), 5 (20 mobs), 6 (20 mobs, and theres no way theyre removing the pixie/ghrah room), removing 60 / 120 mobs of the 750 wont do much, especially when a good chunk of those 750 are in central that never get dealt with anyways.

I don't know why they don't just make it 100% to pop. They keep being like "oh it's broken" "oh fewer floors will help it", etc

Either theyre idiots who leave it as such because “*** you”

Or they actually have no idea its built this way because one rogue dev who yearns for the old days of 1% drop rates, “slave away puppets”, secretly coded it in a spaghetti code way that no one can find it? You know which dev im talking about, the same dev thats been around for two decades now that keeps not-so-randomly making things miserable and very out of place. This is the same dev who worked on the windurst line of abyssea zones.

If they remove pixies I would actually do this content. *** buff wipes.

Cyclonic Turmoil is very easy to stun though. I have it on react on my drk and cor/dnc.

Anyways, they will never ever remove that one floor. Thats their bread and butter, their crowning achievement.
10 true sound mobs
10 mobs with a full dispel TP move, 5 of which are not sleepable by light or dark sleep.

Forming for Job Point parties is exceedingly difficult to earn a point threshold in a group that's better than simply doing Ody C. I've found most people that need job points are returning players that barely rock ambuscade gear, with a notable lack of anything but DD jobs.

While I'd absolutely love to do Dho Gates Bats/Crabs with DD, DD, DD Cor, Brd, Healer again, its a huge difficulty to form for this as Mlvl people do not get good points on this... and Locus Mobs give fairly terrible job point gain compared to Apex mobs.

I tried to get Job Point parties set up on my REA Brd (job point 0) recently and had 0 luck in setting up PUGs. Either lack of jobs or no one is interested. Only managed to get points in Ody C. I have no idea what a Blm, Pup, or Geo would do to get job points.

Job points parties are not a thing anymore tbh. Best bet is to find a group of returnees that are in the same boat and make do with whatever setup you can make. It'll be you on your bard buffing an ambu kaja sword warrior and ambu kaja sword Nin, doing *** all dmg.

Hardly worth doing outside CP campaigns. Just do ody C with a pug, that is probably more cp/hr for you.

My partner, who is a new XI player, has taken a shine to SMN despite getting BRD to 99 first. She's hitting 99 today and I joked that with 5M gil she can get mastered and... yeah, that's sadly probably the best route to go for that job.

171,283 pearls were sold for this mog bonanza. It sounds very low to me considering you could purchase them during the Return Home campaign.

That's 85,000 chars. A lot probably missed them (I have at least 600 chars that didn't buy them, just by myself). Seems reasonable given the xiah DB is now showing 111k active.

Have stopped buying pearls personally. Not worth getting into gacha mechanics.

Remember that 111k "active" have (up to) 1.5 million mules who don't use the AH

If you bother on slot 1 you probably bother on slot 2 and 3 and 4 etc (how many dozens of posts have we seen complaining about mule won but can't transfer anything, too many)


The weapons aren't even worth taking the 2 minutes per character out of your day to bother. And a 1/1000 cat's eye etc isn't either.

I won a rank 2! First time ever in my FFXI history.
Considering most of the times I win zero (won rank 3 a few times) I'm very happy xD