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The game had you spending anywhere between 2 to 11 hours (unlucky 7th window pops for all 3) a day camping kings

Did you disable your post count because someone called you out?

Anyways If you're unhappy just move on, simple as.

Whosoever holds this account, if they be worthy, shall possess the power of K123....

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XI is now like crack and it used to be like fentanyl.

Still addictive and grindy AF. Just not that addictive and grindy.

And if you weren't down for it, or available for it, then you weren't going to be in endgame. Full stop. (At least not any endgame shell that was actually going to get you drops.)

I think it worked well in jp communities, but could just be the fact you barely saw it vs all of the drama on the non-jp side.

I played in an NA shell back then, but I had some friends in "rival" JP shells. They also had a ton of drama, but it wouldn't often make its way to forums. And they tended to handle internal drama differently than NA shells, so it didn't boil over into a public mess the way ours did. Frankly, I liked the public mess. It kept things entertaining, and there were plenty of great in-jokes and hilarious moments that ensued. Most of us were really petty and childish (I mean, come on, we were like 17-24 years old!), but I wouldn't change a thing about it. I also wouldn't go back and do it again!

Not to mention the various hours just spent camping normal NMs. Fending off RMTs for Okotes. Kids these days dont understand the patience it took to camp nearly anything worthwhile that wasn't a Relic

Asura CN Opening:
Condition 1: Complete 250/250
Condition 2: Incomplete 18/22
Condition 3: Incomplete 1/2
Condition 4: Complete 1000/1000

Here you go again, making baseless, incorrect assumptions about me and being incredibly wrong.

I play about 2-3 hours, 5 days a week. I often take breaks, including about ~10 days I just took off for a vacation.

This imaginary person who you think I am doesn't exist. Maybe you should pick another target who actually is whatever it is you're angry at.

I sometimes wonder how much cultural differences impacted their decisions on stuff like this and how the JP communities handled it compared to NA/EU. Seems like it just bred drama but I have no exposure to the JP side.

I also wonder how unique the process is compared to other MMOs of the era. EQ2 was the only one I played for any length other than XI and the epic gear in it was hard to obtain but didn't require nearly the commitment of such a large group. You had time gated raids but the drop distribution was more even and there was less
scarcity. Did MMOs prior to XI (UO? EQ?) have this type of mechanic the way XI did?


I'll never not be big mad at my luck with that ***. I still go kill him randomly whenever I'm in the area just out of spite. I spent months camping him and between combatting RMT and no drops, it wasn't until long after they were made ex that I got them.

On a side note, you can get a Hoxne Ring using a SP Gobbie Key. (had 200+ keys lol)

damn 2 Vicuna Cloth from Sp Gobbie and from ANV key.

and you spend hours on a video game forum being a troll, for a game you apparently dislike. Yet you are talking about his measly 3 hours a day, can't make this up.

I genuinely enjoy your little fantasy stories about my life. I wonder where you come up with this ***.

Like people can only have a meaningful life if they spend several hours a day "developing", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. What makes you think it takes me an hour to make dinner every night, or that I need to spend *whatever period of time you think I spend* prepping for the next day?

Even if all that were true (again, it's not), I'd still have like...16 hours a day on the weekends to do whatever development you think I need to do.

You are projecting on me SO HARD and frankly I find it hilarious. I have a very enjoyable life and I'm very satisfied, you don't need to worry about me spending too much time with my friends bro. I'm glad you're thinking of me though.

You need help.

(Mods, do your thing please?)

Lets assume I'm working locally, 6am to 6pm for work, that includes travel to and from, 6 to 9 is family and kiddo time, 9 to 1130/12 is xi time. Really not hard to get 3 hours of play, I also only generally sleep 6 to 7 hours, I also work 10.5 hours a day which is above the 8 hour average. I don't think 2 to 3 hours a day for anyone even a parent for some personal time or hobbies like xi is unreasonable.

Look at all this development discussion.
I think this thread is developing in the wrong direction.

Time for Dev Tracker Discussion III - The Search for Dev Tracker Discussion II

All of the developers were gone before this thread even started. Go figure

Not interested in the pissing contest, but this is just dumb.

The average person spends over 3 hrs a day watching tv. (i think this used to be higher)

I mean lets be super generic:
8 hrs working
8 hrs sleeping
8 hrs doing other stuff

in the "other stuff" likely there's maybe 1 hr of commuting, 1 hr of meals, so if you use 3 for leisure (tv, books, games w/e), you still have 3 hrs to spend at the gym, with family, taking care of the house, some other hobby (music/art/whatever)

Consider the average person spends 7 hrs sleeping that's an extra hr. in the "other stuff" some of us might work longer days or have a worse commute or w/e, and many of us might only sleep 5-6 hrs/night. I sleep a lot less than my family and that's probably 80% of my playtime. (and that ignores weekends)

Not saying people should spend 3 hrs dedicated to a game per day but its really not a stretch to do and live an otherwise normal life.

I concur, and I wish I could get 8 hours of sleep regularly, but I have very strong allergies and acid reflux. I fall into the 5 to 6 hours sleep category many nights myself. But sleep schedule aside, it's pretty normal for me to have 6 hours to myself in the evening before I'm even supposed to be turning in for the night. Making supper and doing some housework can take up some time, as does evening hygiene, but there's plenty of time in there for me to spend on leisure. And that's not counting weekends. I only tend to spend an hour or so on FFXI most nights, and some nights I don't play it at all, but I could if I wanted to. I've just moved on to a lot of other things now.

But if someone legit wanted to spend 3 hours a day playing FFXI there's no reason most people wouldn't be able to fit that play schedule into a perfectly normal lifestyle routine. Your leisure activities are your own. There's no wrong way to spend it. Playing FF11 is no better or worse than watching TV, reading a book, playing a FPS, or building a model rocket. It's hobby time, and everyone has hobbies.