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Dev Tracker - Discussion
By Dodik 2025-11-06 16:22:14
If you have capability to enter and clear v1 and choose instead to clear v0, that is indeed a waste of segs.
By Seun 2025-11-06 17:28:42
I'd presume the person whos hand you're holding probably isnt up to snuff to be useful in a V25 fight and you'd be doing that fight short handed, so that would likely be a waste of segs.
I think you could carry a T1 V25. My win was the 'dry run' where people weren't eating HQ food or going full unga and we still smashed it. If you're getting carried I wouldn't suggest a V0 or a V1 to you, but that's just me.
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By Meeble 2025-11-06 23:18:07
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Bingo. +1 cases in login points is fine, really. But it feels bad because it means either SE/Fujito still don't understand what players hate about Sortie earring RNG, or they do but aren't willing/able to address it.
Players: "This lootbox system is terrible and broken, please change it."
SE: "Nah. But here's a FREE* pity lootbox if you juice our daily login metrics!"
If you want every piece of gear handed to you for barely any effort at all go play FFXIV.
<... snipped a bunch of random babble about why XIV is easy ...>
That game might suit your playstyle more.
I know people talk past each other at times and not everyone here is great at ze English language, but I genuinely have no idea how you think my post is advocating for handouts. You've got it backwards.
I want a system to upgrade/refine/perfect Sortie earrings by playing Sortie, not more old cases "handed to us" from things like vanabout, trove, and login points. It doesn't have to be fast! If a player could take a single NQ earring and max it out in the same kind of time frame it takes to make a Stage 5 Prime, that would be fine(as long as they weren't competing for the same resource).
If you're out there doing 8 boss or better multiple times a week, seeing some rando get a better earring for a given job from a login point gacha pull is going to feel real bad, man.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-06 23:33:43
but I genuinely have no idea how you think my post is advocating for handouts. You've got it backwards.
He does. The initial post you were responding to was me saying the random reward system was disappointing. It's the epitome of a "handout". Getting a Crepuscular Cloak from AMAN Trove vs someone who has burned 300+ Shinryu fights and got nothing is quite literally a "handout". Getting a +2 earring with capped augs for little effort (or from your VanaBout rewards) where someone has been grinding Sortie for months and never received one is literally a "handout". Doing your weekly limbus climbs and getting minimal matters vs someone else who gets double or triple what you got, is a "handout". Just dumb.
That's really the problem: you'd think the effort would meet the reward, but they've introduced so many RNG reward systems that are disrespectful to your time and effort. Didn't the producer recently say he wanted to introduce things that were 'better on your time' (paraphrasing)? Besides them splitting campaigns and easing some of the requirements for older content (aimed at newer players), I haven't seen it yet.
By Seun 2025-11-07 11:31:15
That's really the problem: you'd think the effort would meet the reward, but they've introduced so many RNG reward systems that are disrespectful to your time and effort.
The problem is that the time and effort you spend in Sortie is rewarded with armor and prime weapons. The content is worth doing even if the earrings didn't exist, so the arguments don't hold up.
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Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-11-07 14:26:54
The problem is that the time and effort you spend in Sortie is rewarded with armor and prime weapons. The content is worth doing even if the earrings didn't exist, so the arguments don't hold up.
This. Almost no one is doing Sortie specifically FOR earrings, those are just a nice little carrot that they dangle as an additional bonus to encourage people to come into Sortie. Some people don't care about Sortie outside of upgrading Empy armor. Some people just hop in to do some runs with friends and otherwise ignore the event. Maybe they get an earring that helps make it a little more worthwhile - a small token.
I don't see why it's all that strange to re-use the same random reward item in other places to drive engagement. More chances at something designed to be a random lottery that might reward you with crap and might reward you with something really nice is... fine?
Sortie had exclusivity for this little perk for a while, it's just getting slightly more widely available now to encourage people to do daily logins even if they don't care about Sortie. Sortie still obviously has a purpose, giving a random earring box or two a month is not killing the event that is the only way to upgrade Empy armor and make Primes.
By Rips 2025-11-07 18:31:06
Makes me tempted to bring back my 198 AMAN Trove mules.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-07 18:46:05
That earring will clear max gil for the first couple dumbasses, 100%
Always sell it.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-07 18:53:20
What he means is he's gonna buy the first few at 500 mil hoping to flip them for capped gil.
By Meeble 2025-11-07 20:00:12
This. Almost no one is doing Sortie specifically FOR earrings, those are just a nice little carrot that they dangle as an additional bonus to encourage people to come into Sortie. Some people don't care about Sortie outside of upgrading Empy armor. Some people just hop in to do some runs with friends and otherwise ignore the event. Maybe they get an earring that helps make it a little more worthwhile - a small token.
Yeah, that's an accurate description of Sortie as it stands. The only argument I'm making is that Sortie would be better if earrings were a real part of the content and not an incidental bonus.
Kinda wild it's such a hot take.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-11-07 22:32:28
The only argument I'm making is that Sortie would be better if earrings were a real part of the content and not an incidental bonus.
Having the earring augments be a set bonus when equipping the prime weapon would open up a lot of possibilities and might've resulted in a wider selection of jobs on some of the primes.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-07 23:40:04
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »set bonus when equipping the prime weapon
By Lili 2025-11-08 04:37:22
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »set bonus when equipping the prime weapon
Satan called, wants to hire you to torture eternal souls for eternity
Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-11-08 08:02:42
Jesus, Im glad I deleted all the rom files, so if I ever enter sortie id just crash
Fenrir.Zenion
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-11-08 09:32:41
So hey, just as an aside... remember how the first two prime stages had that "slowly devours your soul" thing on the stats?
I think it's kind of cool how they managed to apply that to the player rather than the character for the later stages. Very thematic.
By gregchiro2013 2025-11-10 00:39:16
RoE Trove broke, please fix it give 9237 platitudes, and no silver vouchers.
By Felgarr 2025-11-10 02:50:12
Makes me tempted to bring back my 198 AMAN Trove mules.
So how many accounts is this? Dividing by 15 or 16 doesn't produce a whole number. :/
By Masaru 2025-11-10 05:23:07
I guess 13
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-11 07:12:23
Who's excited to log in and out 6*15 mules every day for 3 weeks!!one11!1one!
By Manque 2025-11-11 07:16:34
So, the question for trove now is go for loud or impossible; if loud, gamble to go impossible or open terminal?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-11 11:50:34
Quote: Compensation for the Records of Eminence Special Reward Bug
Regarding the special rewards that could not be received due to the bug that occurred on November 10, 2025, we plan to implement the following compensation measures.
[Date & Time]
Starting around Nov. 11, 2025 19:00 (PST)
[Players that are affected]
Customers who were unable to receive the special reward from Records of Eminence due to a bug that occurred on November 10, 2025.
[Details on eligible items for compensation]
・The following exclusive rewards, which were confirmed as not received during this investigation, will be sent to your delivery box.
*Since messages are sent sequentially for each target character, it may take some time for them to be received.
Silver Voucher/Copper Voucher/Cipher: Ark MR/
Abdhaljs Seal/Rem's Tale Ch.1/Rem's Tale Ch.2/
Mars Orb/Meat Jerky/Ice Crystal/Fire Crystal/
Inv. Report/Coveffe Musings/Mikhe's Memo/
Death for Dim./Swing and Stab/Noillurie's Log/
Clash Of Titans/Old Case/Old Case +1
・For key items “ Rem's Tale Ch.1” and “ Rem's Tale Ch.2”,
we will provide compensation with “Abdhaljs Seal”.
・Regarding Deeds, we plan to implement a dedicated item during a future maintenance update and send it to eligible recipients. We will notify the players again on the timing of the item being sent.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and we thank you for your understanding.
By Lili 2025-11-11 14:33:55
Quote: Compensation for the Records of Eminence Special Reward Bug
Regarding the special rewards that could not be received due to the bug that occurred on November 10, 2025, we plan to implement the following compensation measures.
[Date & Time]
Starting around Nov. 11, 2025 19:00 (PST)
[Players that are affected]
Customers who were unable to receive the special reward from Records of Eminence due to a bug that occurred on November 10, 2025.
[Details on eligible items for compensation]
・The following exclusive rewards, which were confirmed as not received during this investigation, will be sent to your delivery box.
*Since messages are sent sequentially for each target character, it may take some time for them to be received.
Silver Voucher/Copper Voucher/Cipher: Ark MR/
Abdhaljs Seal/Rem's Tale Ch.1/Rem's Tale Ch.2/
Mars Orb/Meat Jerky/Ice Crystal/Fire Crystal/
Inv. Report/Coveffe Musings/Mikhe's Memo/
Death for Dim./Swing and Stab/Noillurie's Log/
Clash Of Titans/Old Case/Old Case +1
・For key items “ Rem's Tale Ch.1” and “ Rem's Tale Ch.2”,
we will provide compensation with “Abdhaljs Seal”.
・Regarding Deeds, we plan to implement a dedicated item during a future maintenance update and send it to eligible recipients. We will notify the players again on the timing of the item being sent.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and we thank you for your understanding.
You know, that's actually very, very fair.
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Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-11 15:43:31
Sounds like they're getting a lot more confident with things to be willing to do that. I know it's probably just a series of queries and a process they use for sequential dbox sends, but in the past I never would've imagined they'd bother for something like this.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-11 15:44:59
Previously, they would've just blanket gave everyone 20 deeds and said done and done. Put AAMR in the glittering thing and gave out REMs etc
Things are very different these days
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-11 16:28:43
Sounds like they're getting a lot more confident with things to be willing to do that. I know it's probably just a series of queries and a process they use for sequential dbox sends, but in the past I never would've imagined they'd bother for something like this.
Are you implying they're behaving like how a modern-day video game company should?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-11 16:44:23
SE loosened the purse strings for FFXI ever so slightly
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Cerberus.Balloon
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2025-11-12 04:23:45
I hope that it demonstrates the "server side" improvements they've made are starting to pay off. If DB Access is easier, running queries is easier, and applying changes like that are easier it implies a team with better knowledge of what is possible.
By K123 2025-11-12 05:09:16
Sounds like they're getting a lot more confident with things to be willing to do that. I know it's probably just a series of queries and a process they use for sequential dbox sends, but in the past I never would've imagined they'd bother for something like this. It's more surprising to see them take responsibility and demonstrate some kind of care for customer experience.
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By Dodik 2025-11-12 06:02:20
Running ad-hoc queries has no cost on the DB side, it has a cost on the human side.
Someone has to write it specifically, which means paying someone to write a one-off thing for XI. Previously there was no one to do that.
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-11-12 11:52:41
Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »In before SE adds a neck to the game with 350 HP, 100 MP, +50 to all Stats and +50 to all native combat/magic skills*
* must be ML50/su6 to equip it.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Hoxne_Earring
Ok its an earring and not a neck.
The stats aren't quite as gaudy.
The method to get the full effect is worse.
Makes me wonder if SE reads the forums and trolls us. In before....
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