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Dev Tracker - Discussion
 Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-05 13:00:49
people would likely pay capped gil for a perfect +2 of the job they want, what's your point?
I saw a scrub idling in a perfect +2 earring for one of my favorite jobs. He was successful in making me salty, even though I normally don't /check people (he was a party member). The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
 Valefor.Dathus
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40
By Valefor.Dathus 2025-11-05 13:07:36
people would likely pay capped gil for a perfect +2 of the job they want, what's your point?
I saw a scrub idling in a perfect +2 earring for one of my favorite jobs. He was successful in making me salty, even though I normally don't /check people (he was a party member). The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Got a RL friend of mine who has a +2 DRG earring. Min roll, but I only have a mid roll+1. I say it doesn't bother me, but in the back of my head I am jealous because I want a +2 for my favourite class. And at the time he didn't even have it unlocked!
 Valefor.Philemon
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 651
By Valefor.Philemon 2025-11-05 13:26:05
people would likely pay capped gil for a perfect +2 of the job they want, what's your point?
I saw a scrub idling in a perfect +2 earring for one of my favorite jobs. He was successful in making me salty, even though I normally don't /check people (he was a party member). The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Got a RL friend of mine who has a +2 DRG earring. Min roll, but I only have a mid roll+1. I say it doesn't bother me, but in the back of my head I am jealous because I want a +2 for my favourite class. And at the time he didn't even have it unlocked! One day in the future, you'll get a +2 DRG earring with a very mid roll and be thrilled about it. Then three out of your next four +2 earrings will also be DRG and have worse augments than the first +2 you got.
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Valefor.Dathus
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40
By Valefor.Dathus 2025-11-05 13:28:06
people would likely pay capped gil for a perfect +2 of the job they want, what's your point?
I saw a scrub idling in a perfect +2 earring for one of my favorite jobs. He was successful in making me salty, even though I normally don't /check people (he was a party member). The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Got a RL friend of mine who has a +2 DRG earring. Min roll, but I only have a mid roll+1. I say it doesn't bother me, but in the back of my head I am jealous because I want a +2 for my favourite class. And at the time he didn't even have it unlocked! One day in the future, you'll get a +2 DRG earring with a very mid roll and be thrilled about it. Then three out of your next four +2 earrings will also be DRG and have worse augments than the first +2 you got. And on that day I will still be happy, since AFAIK I have no reason to want a COR one, PLD will be a fun one to have, and WAR will be when I'm meta-slaving away.
By Taint 2025-11-05 13:28:50
people would likely pay capped gil for a perfect +2 of the job they want, what's your point?
I saw a scrub idling in a perfect +2 earring for one of my favorite jobs. He was successful in making me salty, even though I normally don't /check people (he was a party member). The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Got a RL friend of mine who has a +2 DRG earring. Min roll, but I only have a mid roll+1. I say it doesn't bother me, but in the back of my head I am jealous because I want a +2 for my favourite class. And at the time he didn't even have it unlocked! One day in the future, you'll get a +2 DRG earring with a very mid roll and be thrilled about it. Then three out of your next four +2 earrings will also be DRG and have worse augments than the first +2 you got.
This prophecy has happened before and will happen again.
By Kaffy 2025-11-05 13:36:26
if it were up to me (thankfully it isn't) I'd instead encourage and reward people who have cleared hard fights to help those who haven't, thereby raising the skill floor of the entire playerbase. mercs would still happen and people would get geared and be clueless, but to a lesser degree. giving people ultra rare top of line loot as a result of complete luck just keeps people inexperienced in the content hoping for table scraps. and it works, but degrades everything that came before.
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By Nariont 2025-11-05 13:55:22
i bet itg loud thuds have old case +1, too. calling it now.
Why limit it to just the case? Just bloat the pool with base +1/+2 earrings, no augments. That's 44 "new" items right there and keeps you going to sortie to get the actually good, augmented earrings
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-05 14:18:55
I doubt they would think this through enough to pull it off, but a ??? Case +2 that pops the earring for job you're on currently would be so much better. Add it to the trove ITG pool so that it's so incredibly rare to begin with, but at least you take the randomness out of it by forcing the job.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-05 14:20:54
So desperate to take the only most valuable thing away from sortie.
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By Meeble 2025-11-05 15:48:43
The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Bingo. +1 cases in login points is fine, really. But it feels bad because it means either SE/Fujito still don't understand what players hate about Sortie earring RNG, or they do but aren't willing/able to address it.
Players: "This lootbox system is terrible and broken, please change it."
SE: "Nah. But here's a FREE* pity lootbox if you juice our daily login metrics!"
By Seun 2025-11-05 16:14:26
Cases will always be lottery. I don't really care about earrings personally, my motivation for SOrtie was always the armor. That said, it would have been nice if the earrings worked on an RP system where you could upgrade the augment. The problem is that they would probably force you to play that job in Sortie and ruin your meta galli farm comp. The alternative would be to force you to spend galli for the upgrades and people already cry about splitting time between armor and primes...
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6497
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-05 16:21:27
I'm probably gonna get hated on for this, but if you're tight on Galli you dont need to spend 80k of it on emp+3 for a job you play once every 24 months for 2 hours. The 10k +2 version will be more than sufficient for what you're doing (which is likely Ambuscade when that one unique fight rolls around). "But I must upgrade it all to put on storage slips" is an unwise conscious choice if you're Galli-pinching.
By Meeble 2025-11-05 16:35:05
It could be as simple as feeding earrings you don't want to a goblin for points.
Or excess upgrade rocks. Aside from Mesos, most groups doing Sortie on the regular are going to have way more of everything else than they will ever be able to use.
The goal is not to let players hurry up and get perfect earrings, it's to have some kind of path to do so as a nice side bonus for the people putting in the time in the muffin mines.
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By Kaffy 2025-11-05 16:47:07
i completely overlooked the fact +2 case exists, so make that the prediction. what else has been added that isn't already a part of the trove rewards?
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Fenrir.Zenion
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 417
By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-11-05 16:59:42
Sapphires and starstones. Hypothetically useful, in practice there's not much point in them as a prize since you have to just go do the content you'd have gotten them from anyway to use them. Basically just like omen cards except they're worth 3k to an NPC.
Naturally, they'll be part of the loud thud pool.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6497
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-05 17:57:58
Putting sortie stones in Loud Thud pool is diabolical because they're absolutely useless (minus a couple hundred gil) if you dont do Sortie, and mostly useless for people who do Sortie (they already have more than they'll ever need)
They're def putting them in there.
Quetzalcoatl.Jakey
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 447
By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-11-06 02:22:13
They could put mesosiderite in there so soloers would only need millions of galli to finish their primes which should keep them logging in for a while lol.
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Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 55
By Asura.Cossack 2025-11-06 02:30:01
Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3795
By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-06 03:59:52
Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.
Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?
No "cult" required.
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1476
By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-11-06 04:39:44
The random reward system is one of the most disappointing things in this game.
Bingo. +1 cases in login points is fine, really. But it feels bad because it means either SE/Fujito still don't understand what players hate about Sortie earring RNG, or they do but aren't willing/able to address it.
Players: "This lootbox system is terrible and broken, please change it."
SE: "Nah. But here's a FREE* pity lootbox if you juice our daily login metrics!"
If you want every piece of gear handed to you for barely any effort at all go play FFXIV.
Crafting is guaranteed 100% HQ with every synth.
The gear you want is easily obtainable within a couple of days after patch release.
New "REMA'S" are completeable within a week after patch release.
And as an added bonus, even though it is TECHNICALLY classified as an MMORPG, you never have to talk to a single soul while doing it.
That game might suit your playstyle more.
By K123 2025-11-06 07:38:23
Square Enix wants QA and debugging to be 70% handled by Generative AI in just two years
Your text to link here...
 Quetzalcoatl.Khajit
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 470
By Quetzalcoatl.Khajit 2025-11-06 07:58:46
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.
Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?
No "cult" required. A person on asura doing a shout instead of paying for it? Perish the thought!
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1476
By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-11-06 08:03:57
Quetzalcoatl.Khajit said: »Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.
Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?
No "cult" required. A person on asura doing a shout instead of paying for it? Perish the thought!
Much easier to buy gil from the 1000+ RMT on the server than ro actually do the content.... or just cut out the middle man and buy the CONTENT from the RMT.
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By Kaffy 2025-11-06 08:04:57
I have no doubt documentation of XI and probably to a lesser degree XIV is a complete disaster. most of it is in the minds of people who are no longer working. I actually think this is one of the better use cases for AI, great vid I watched recently below.
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1476
By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-11-06 08:10:47
I would not in the least be surprised to find out Asura actually has RMT selling Aminon kills to people that just don't feel like dealing with it.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6497
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-06 08:26:24
But I was told the 6 person limit on a daily event prevents these type of things from happening
Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3635
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-06 08:37:20
But I was told the 6 person limit on a daily event prevents these type of things from happening
18 man limit: you can use 6 characters to sell 12 slots of 9/9 boss
6 man limit: you can use 5 characters to sell 1 slot (aminon with subpar galli)
or you can use 4 characters to sell 2 slots of subpar galli
with an 18 man limit, runs cost 1/2 lockout per leech
with a 6 man limit, runs cost 2-5 lockouts per leech
i know you're really dug into this point, but it's horrible false equivalency.. very few people are paying 100m a run for 40k galli but plenty would pay 10m a run for 80k
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6497
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-06 08:40:48
Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3635
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-06 08:42:59
can't address the point so meme about it? got it
the only 'goalpost' i've ever made is that relaxing requirements encourages leeching which alters the progression for everyone and degrades the game
you can't make content that's too hard to sell, but price and scope still matter..
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6497
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-06 08:50:11
very few people are paying 100m a run for 40k galli Sounds like the anti-RMT measures are fueling RMT, because the only people paying 100m for 40k galli are buying gil.
Because the last 7 years have been absolutely amazing for the game??
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