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Dev Tracker - Discussion
 Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-04 08:25:43
Remember that your good drops are not their good drops.
My question here is... does this mean that the rainbow chests will now guarantee "impossible to gauge" noise?
I would bet that it's still "loud" with a chance of "ITG"
They aren't going to start guaranteeing "good drops"
Good... being defined by square. As in wave 3 dynamis. And Mog amplifiers. etc.
By Kaffy 2025-11-04 08:26:17
also, people will unquestionably full clear the shared dyna zone daily to farm currency if allowed to do so, I have a bad feeling about its actual usefulness once this gets underway.
By Seun 2025-11-04 08:27:05
Speculating about what color the chest for "impossible to gauge" will be is more rewarding than the actual event.
By waffle 2025-11-04 08:38:01
The way they phrased it
"At present, the "loud thud" can include items that can differ greatly in terms of both quality and desirability, meaning that it can lead to disappointment if you don't get the right items. Therefore, we have added a new category—"an impossible to gauge thud"—in order to help make the distinction even clearer."
makes it sound like they are splitting the loud thud pool in two parts. With one part still being "loud thud" and the presumably better items from the current pool being relegated to "impossible to gauge" thud.
So I guess the generally undesirable stuff currently in loud thud will stay there.
 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-04 08:52:50
people will unquestionably full clear the shared dyna zone daily to farm currency if allowed to do so Since other people can join in, it seems likely to me that it's free-for-all like DI or WoE. If claims were allowed, people could help with adds but it wouldn't make much difference for a group of noobs trying to fight boss.
Not really sure what that means for loot. Smart move would be to give shards/voids for your current job based on participation.
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By Kaffy 2025-11-04 08:56:11
at first I thought it might have no drops at all and only tracking the 100 w1 kills or w1 boss to unlock +2/3, but still have my doubts as there was no mention of any changes to drops. if it is FFA, how will treasure be handled?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-04 08:56:39
It's daily. and free for all. I wouldn't be surprised if there are zero drops.
Sounds rife for exploitation. ... Not that people don't already go every single day with 4 cors on 16 char loops.
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By Seun 2025-11-04 09:13:15
makes it sound like they are splitting the loud thud pool in two parts. With one part still being "loud thud" and the presumably better items from the current pool being relegated to "impossible to gauge" thud.
So I guess the generally undesirable stuff currently in loud thud will stay there.
Right, but in terms of the function of the game, you are rewarded either a thud(low chance) or loud thud(high chance) for a win. One would assume that thud would be replaced by loud thud to make way for impossible to gauge, right?
Gold = Thud
Rainbow = Loud Thud
??? = Impossible to Gauge Thud
Farming currency in dyna ffa though? People ask me if I'm on drugs.. lol
By ScaevolaBahamut 2025-11-04 09:17:14
at first I thought it might have no drops at all and only tracking the 100 w1 kills or w1 boss to unlock +2/3, but still have my doubts as there was no mention of any changes to drops. if it is FFA, how will treasure be handled?
To be honest I kind of hope there aren't any drops, and the kills only count towards relic unlocks or JSE neck/weapon augmentation, though someone with an escutcheon who pays closer attention to material supply would have a more valuable opinion.
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-11-04 09:58:53
Best guess with accolades maybe purchase Rem's tales, or etched memories, or stuff like that (maybe other ex items, job cards omen beads, i dunno). I'd like to think you could get the guild upgrade items that are 1.1M gil but i doubt it will be that, af+3 is like 5-6M per piece and most of them are pretty meh these days. I mean even adding those items that are 1.1M for 99999 accolades wouldn't be game breaking since most people pretty much convert prize powders for a similar amount.
I mean you can get some of these stuff with sparks but its overpriced and shares the limit with acheron shields so no one does.
Guess we'll find out in a week! guess I'll hold off on trove in the mean time.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-04 10:02:04
Guys, I hate to burst your bubble, but Shared Divergence will have drops. Think about it:
Quote: - The area ends when you defeat all of the Wave 2 enemies or reach the time limit Why would there be Wave 2 enemies if the goal is just unlocks?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-04 10:07:36
I agree with everything you said Nynja, altough I'm not sure BCs are the best example here, it's one of the very few content where they actually give you the "skip cutscene" option lol "skip cutscene" is just a shorter 5 second black screen to move your character to the battlefield. In HTMB's, this should not be a choice, it should just be the default behavior. This is content you've cleared before and are repeating for loot.
Also, I have a feeling that introducing a "skip cutscene" button in certain cutscenes that actually zone you multiple times (I think WOTG did this) would be absolutely catastrophic to the client.
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By Dodik 2025-11-04 10:24:45
Why would there be Wave 2 enemies if the goal is just unlocks?
Probably adding a kill 100 wave 2 mobs for +3s option.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-04 10:31:25
kill 100 wave 2 mobs for +3s
The 100 mobs in wave1 is for +3s, +2s are just entering. So, it's a decent point. Might be a way to unlock RMEA augments that isn't the absurd job points thing, but I think there's probably going to be at least some sort of farming. Like I said, makes no sense to allow you to unlock it and force you to buy the parts on AH.
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By sorge74 2025-11-04 10:35:31
kill 100 wave 2 mobs for +3s
The 100 mobs in wave1 is for +3s, +2s are just entering. So, it's a decent point. Might be a way to unlock RMEA augments that isn't the absurd job points thing, but I think there's probably going to be at least some sort of farming. Like I said, makes no sense to allow you to unlock it and force you to buy the parts on AH.
As somehow who returned and keeps missing W3 clears and isn't going to pay for it, the JP thing is whatever. Got 4 weeks left. It's better than no additional option. Not like foma needs that upgrade as much as some of the others.
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-11-04 10:38:29
Quote: The spoils to be added to "The Orb's Radiance" battlefield will consist of an item that gives you Exemplar Points.
lol, and Exemplar Point accessory.
Valefor.Dathus
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By Valefor.Dathus 2025-11-04 10:41:05
kill 100 wave 2 mobs for +3s
The 100 mobs in wave1 is for +3s, +2s are just entering. So, it's a decent point. Might be a way to unlock RMEA augments that isn't the absurd job points thing, but I think there's probably going to be at least some sort of farming. Like I said, makes no sense to allow you to unlock it and force you to buy the parts on AH.
Could always have the drops just be the generic medals?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-04 10:43:19
Why would there be Wave 2 enemies if the goal is just unlocks?
Probably adding a kill 100 wave 2 mobs for +3s option. 
By waffle 2025-11-04 11:02:41
Unfortunately "spoils that give exemplar points" could be consumables like Lango's thesis from shami's trove.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-11-04 11:08:16
Wow, *** Jack Daniels is piss water.... Peneleope Double Barrel Strength FTMFW!
TIME TO START FARMING SOME MOTHERFUCING CP!!!
Asura.Hya
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By Asura.Hya 2025-11-04 11:38:10
So what happens when you're soloing Dynamis - Jeuno near the Audience Chamber and someone kills the Wave 1 boss, spawning all the Wave 2 trap statues on top of you? Maybe a player decides they want to quickly jam out a Wave 1 boss clear for a friend and ignore everything else, forcing the rest of the instance immediately into Wave 2. Maybe the zone rotation will be frequent enough that it doesn't matter and you just come back later. But if this is a shared instance in the way we are understanding it, this is looking like a prime griefing opportunity. They would have to be separate instances for each group to prevent any of these shenanigans. How many Dynamis instances are there?
By Seun 2025-11-04 11:59:05
Maybe a player decides they want to quickly jam out a Wave 1 boss clear for a friend and ignore everything else, forcing the rest of the instance immediately into Wave 2.
The intent of the zone is so you don't have to carry people, but if you were going to do that you should shout for others who may be interested and just take them into the normal zone, no?
Asura.Hya
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By Asura.Hya 2025-11-04 12:06:21
Maybe a player decides they want to quickly jam out a Wave 1 boss clear for a friend and ignore everything else, forcing the rest of the instance immediately into Wave 2.
The intent of the zone is so you don't have to carry people, but if you were going to do that you should shout for others who may be interested and just take them into the normal zone, no? And burn your own KI for entry with your linkshell or other friends? Why do that when you can simply enter the shared zone at no cost?
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-11-04 12:24:00
Quote: I believe everyone that has attempted the challenge will feel a new sense of excitement due to these new spoils. For example, take a look at this piece of equipment...
Hoxne Ampulla - consumes 1000 gil, +100% Double Attack.
inb4 the effect wears off instantly the moment you swap out of the neck
inb4 someone figures out how to reverse engineer this item by trading all of their gil at the exact same time this is used, and it overflows your gil to max instead of deducting into negative
Just kidding, it looks interesting (something to do with gil at least).
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-04 12:36:14
Bet it just gives DA for one hit. Would be a neat way to improve FBII on Aminon, IG.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-04 12:40:06
Isnt there usually a JA/WS lock after using an item like that for a few seconds?
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-04 12:40:46
Yea, but might still be workable after an absorb-tp. Not really sure where else you'd get any value out of it.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-11-04 12:45:18
You know what I'm interested in? Whether the shared zone Divergence wave 2 NMs can still drop Volte armor.
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By Seun 2025-11-04 12:53:37
Maybe a player decides they want to quickly jam out a Wave 1 boss clear for a friend and ignore everything else, forcing the rest of the instance immediately into Wave 2.
The intent of the zone is so you don't have to carry people, but if you were going to do that you should shout for others who may be interested and just take them into the normal zone, no? And burn your own KI for entry with your linkshell or other friends? Why do that when you can simply enter the shared zone at no cost?
We still don't have details or know how it works, but I really think people are not going to need help here. In fact, I think that's the point. Trying to help isn't really helping, you're just running over people who actually wanted to participate themselves. I'd call that an etiquette issue. You're supposed to share in the shared zone, not take what you need for your friends.
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