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By Felgarr 2025-11-02 14:10:36
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
It also allows SE to design the content with a difficulty level that makes it doable by 6 without being a cakewalk for 18. If you want to play the game, rather than just be handed things, it's a feasible way for them to increase flexibility without throwing out difficulty. Content that allows 18 and can be beaten by 6 is joke content.

I know that you're referring to player-scaling, but in terms of content-level scaling, I liked how incursion scaled from ~128 to 140 or so. I would LOVE to see this continued in Dynamis Divergence, to scale it from from 150 to 160. I know, I know, wishful thinking.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 14:38:10
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
(as you cannot do 3x7 jobs without repeats).

Bro pls
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 14:41:50
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Anyways
You bring 8-11 ppl, youre locked to two entries
You bring 12+, youre locked to 1

There were posts literally less than a week ago asking how to 2KI kill Ongo, so clearly people in 2025 cant just power creep a win in one KI.

You do your 1-2 fight with 8+ then youre stuck in lobby because you cant enter another fight as the job is being repeated. You afk in lobby or moglophone out.

Inb4: “But amp charge”
Bro pls, thats *** and you know it.
People arent amp charging with 3 wins. People beat V25 and never beat it again because theres no incentive too.

Thats your S-tier content: one-and-done V25
Oathsworn blade: a handful of groups cleared after 18 months
Wings of war: zero clears and its been out for 15 months
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By Dodik 2025-11-02 14:48:45
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Hardly anyone considers Escha to be "high content" anymore.

Problem is as always an unwillingness to fill non-dd roles in an RPG. Compounded by dd jobs being relatively easy to gear, but having a massive gap between decent and almost BiS gears.

To the point where on the somewhat dangerous fights you don't want more than 2-3 capable dds since the added dmg from not-quite-there dds is too little and the additional risk from added TP moves too large.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-02 15:40:41
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Bro pls
Yea, I was wrong. Oops.

We've had this conversation enough times that I don't think either of us are going to change minds. I'm still thoroughly convinced that the only reason you want limits raised is so you can sit your mules in content for free points/clears.

SE gave you what you claimed to want with Limbus. Bring as many people as you want, points get split out but you all get credit. +4 gear is decent enough to provide a bridge for all those returners to be able to contribute to Sortie as is. Doesn't seem to have changed your attitude at all, though.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 15:49:47
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By all means, feel free to cite any posts where my issues with limbus (in its current form) are about anything other than the absolute dogshit drop rates on matter and their big brain decision to make the drop rate locked for a month. Sure its great if your server cleared everything pre-maint, my server didnt so limbus is comatose other than the idiots botting units to upgrade +4 pieces they will literally never use.

I did pre-farm a temp item set though so I can waltz in and pop a box when the drop rates adjust next week. I should check if they carry over though.


Shiva.Thorny said: »
I'm still thoroughly convinced that the only reason you want limits raised is so you can sit your mules in content for free points/clears.
Thats cool and you can convince yourself to believe whatever you want to believe, but I carry, I dont get carried.

Also youve brought up Sortie like 5 times. Sortie is boring as ***. 60 minute event, 30+ minutes of it is just idle time running around. Being able to “sit my mules and get points” isnt a motivating factor. Cutting the event down and introducing better teleports would be a motivator.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-02 19:35:32
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
A whole lot of very smart things I agree with.

Literally this. I've been harping on it forever. Making alliance content that's so laughably easy a party can do it will continue the degrading effects we already see and the horrible culture that is being impressed upon new players.

These days when a new player hits 99 they're basically told this is their path:
-Buy gear
-Buy Master, then buy EP
-Get carried or buy unlocks to Ody stuff
-Get carried through Ambu
-Get carried through Aeonics
-Get carried through Dynamis, Omen, etc.

Then once you're geared enough, you can start playing the game with vets.

How about:
Shiva.Thorny said: »
If there are so many bench warmers, they should group up.

There are scores and scores of people who claim they can't find anyone to do content with, and complain about elitists not helping them/letting them into their endgame events, and there are no incentives for veterans to help new players get up to speed. ***, what?

I refuse to believe that the problem with FFXI is that new players have too much content to do...it's a *** MMORPG. That's a benefit, not a problem. There are DECADES' worth of content for them to do. They should...do that content.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 19:37:02
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Literally this. I've been harping on it forever. Making alliance content that's so laughably easy a party can do it will continue the degrading effects we already see and the horrible culture that is being impressed upon new players.
Show us your Celestial Spear and Ohakari
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-02 19:41:57
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Literally this. I've been harping on it forever. Making alliance content that's so laughably easy a party can do it will continue the degrading effects we already see and the horrible culture that is being impressed upon new players.
Show us your Celestial Spear and Ohakari

...? I haven't done a master trial, so SE should design more alliance content? I have no idea how you connected these two.

Are you saying the master trials should be opened up to alliances or something...? Is that the solution to "the new player problem?"
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 19:44:30
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You're the one who just said "Making alliance content that's so laughably easy a party can do it", yet you have done the S-tier party content.


>>complains about lack of S-tier content
>>Hasnt done existing S-tier content

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By Asura.Hya 2025-11-02 19:48:54
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
yet you have done the S-tier party content.
We all know those are ***-tier party content, not S-tier.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-02 21:35:59
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
>>complains about lack of S-tier content

Please show me the complaint about a lack of S-tier content? There's plenty of party-level S-tier content.

All the alliance ***is easy as ***.

See the difference?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-02 23:45:40
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Unless I'm mistaken, the last alliance content that was released was 8 years ago. No I'm not including Limbus because it is very clearly nowhere near its finished state so there's no telling if it will be "easy as ***".

Asura.Hya said: »
We all know those are ***-tier party content, not S-tier.
People dont get to talk about difficulty on content if they havent done the difficult content, regardless how stupid the reward is.
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