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 Cerberus.Dekar
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2025-10-14 12:28:34
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Grounds of Valor is abandonware since like 2012

Just another thing in the game they should update, but won't

I spent an embarrassing amount of time getting Light Resistance on a Hades Earring +1 for the past few weeks. I'd say it's 99.99999% abandonware now unless you like building niche sets like me.
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By Fenrir.Velner 2025-10-14 12:40:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
Is there a reason why the GoV books don't have training missions for Apex/Locus mobs? I would love a more simple way to gain tabs. I hate using gil on survival guides.

Load up with copper vouchers!
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-10-14 13:00:32
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
waffle said: »
Instead of hitting your head against a wall with Malignance, they want you to get the gear and be able to work on the next set of stuff."

Why does this logic not get applied to Shinryu?

Because they can hold off on that and do the same thing with Shinryu later?

Lilith HTBF was added in September 2019. Shinryu HTBF was July 2021. They'll wait and do something similar with the rare Shinryu drops in 2026-27 (because the 4+ years we've had to get Shinryu drops isn't quite long enough torture to pull the "ease up" lever yet, lol). And they'll probably still have an absolute trash drop rate to get a Wyrm God Box, but at least you won't need to isolate a specific piece.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-14 17:12:36
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I don't see that comin for Shinryu.
I wouldn't complain! I would welcome it with open arms!
I just don't see it coming though.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-14 17:32:26
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Absolutely zero shot, wouldn't even pretend to start dreaming about it
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-10-14 21:25:31
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If the statement that the drop rate for boxes is the same as the drop rate for armor was, then that suggests the problem with Lilith wasn't that the drop rate was super low; it was that the chance of hitting repeats that would get deleted because nobody could hold them was too high. I averaged about 24 fights to get a box; the last box had to be rolled 18 times to get the piece I needed. Under a strict drop system, that would have meant about 430 fights before the drop happened.

Shinryu's problem is just that none of the good stuff drops at all, ever. Introducing a play-'til-you-win loot re-reroller doesn't do a whole lot if the drop rate is still "once every ten kraken clubs."

Obvious solution is to implement the blue stagger the drop rate was clearly designed around having, but that would mean weeks of borrowing the dev in charge of making miqo'te balls contract realistically in cold weather, and that's simply not a sacrifice the business unit is willing to make.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-10-15 00:41:14
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
Did they fix H box re-entry yet?

Emergency patch just dropped, https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/63441-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-Updated-%28Oct.-14-15%29

It is now safe to Sortie again.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-15 06:19:21
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If you log out to change characters, you get a patch and game crash, yay lovely morning
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By waffle 2025-10-16 08:30:05
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http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/22775/detail.html
Looks like it's only the sword and it won't drop directly from the htbf.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-16 08:34:27
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This whole trade random ***system they've cooked up is in a word; Gross

The sword isn't even much better than an enriching sword
(and significantly worse than even a duelist's sword)
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By waffle 2025-10-16 08:50:04
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
This whole trade random ***system they've cooked up is in a word; Gross

This one is strange because they said they added the system to allow people to acquire hard to get items that they missed out on in the past. So you weren't around for an event, or you didn't buy a physical good with a code for an in game item, that sort of thing.
But this is a completely new item. Why use that system for it?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-16 08:58:07
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Inconsistently inconsistent, the SE motto

Don't invent a whole new system of stupidity, just *** give it to them. Always with the dipshittery.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-10-16 09:04:47
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Presumably shield will be next months reward. Still I'll go get the sword in case its inconsistent wording actually does something unexpected.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-16 09:11:00
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Maybe you'll have to trade stuff that drops from the bc!
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By waffle 2025-10-16 09:24:08
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Maybe you'll have to trade stuff that drops from the bc!
The cosmetic sword as a trade in item is expected. The rest will probably come from various places, possibly including some crafted item, if previous trades are any indicator.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-10-17 16:02:50
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Everything active, both times, just a break in the middle

Not sure about this, tbh. We're not during the break period and granules of time don't appear to be active.

Edit: Actually, 1 character had already been in Dyn today and didn't get granules the second time it entered and the others did so /shrug, no clue what's up with that.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-17 16:05:36
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I mean. It's supposed to. I literally don't have dynamis access to check.

Chatlog error, or lost packet
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By Elad 2025-10-17 19:50:41
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Maybe you'll have to trade stuff that drops from the bc!

My uncle works at final fantasy and told me you'd have to trade an R15 Guttler to Cactrot Rapido while lockstyled into full PUP empy to get a Uranus Orb.

It works just like Mars and Venus orbs except 9 of the chests are mimics, and the 10th one has a VR chance to drop the shield (assuming you open it on a full moon while facing south south east). You do need to be ML25+ to enter this special A.M.A.N. trove and if you die it resets that job to literally level 1 (if it's one of the core 6 jobs), or relocks it if it's any of the unlockable jobs.

Also your adventuring fellow dies forever if you even think about participating in this new piece of content.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-18 12:49:28
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Finally a way to kill my adventuring fellow forever!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-10-19 11:55:24
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You know what HTMB we still need? Provenance Watcher. Imagine if they even made it an 18-man HTMB?
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2025-10-19 14:20:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
You know what HTMB we still need? Provenance Watcher. Imagine if they even made it an 18-man HTMB?

Don't forget about the ACP and the other mini-expansions. I'd love to have iLevel version of those fights--especially if they give new customizable iLevel versions of their rewards.
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By Asura.Tarquine 2025-10-19 15:26:44
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Elad said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Maybe you'll have to trade stuff that drops from the bc!

My uncle works at final fantasy and told me you'd have to trade an R15 Guttler to Cactrot Rapido while lockstyled into full PUP empy to get a Uranus Orb.

It works just like Mars and Venus orbs except 9 of the chests are mimics, and the 10th one has a VR chance to drop the shield (assuming you open it on a full moon while facing south south east). You do need to be ML25+ to enter this special A.M.A.N. trove and if you die it resets that job to literally level 1 (if it's one of the core 6 jobs), or relocks it if it's any of the unlockable jobs.

Also your adventuring fellow dies forever if you even think about participating in this new piece of content.

Can confirm, I am 0/427 on this so far. When will SE fix the drop rate?
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-10-19 17:57:40
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Lilith HTBF was added in September 2019. Shinryu HTBF was July 2021. They'll wait and do something similar with the rare Shinryu drops in 2026-27 (because the 4+ years we've had to get Shinryu drops isn't quite long enough torture to pull the "ease up" lever yet, lol). And they'll probably still have an absolute trash drop rate to get a Wyrm God Box, but at least you won't need to isolate a specific piece.
Cope asf - do not hold your breath
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-19 19:46:21
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
You know what HTMB we still need? Provenance Watcher. Imagine if they even made it an 18-man HTMB?

Fun fact: Provenance Watcher is the only monster model that has not (to my knowledge) been repurposed for another fight.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-10-19 20:06:33
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
You know what HTMB we still need? Provenance Watcher. Imagine if they even made it an 18-man HTMB?

Fun fact: Provenance Watcher is the only monster model that has not (to my knowledge) been repurposed for another fight.


Been saying we need Provenance Watcher + Bahamut HTMB's. Both severely underutilized areas (Monarch Linn + Provenance), both epic fights of their given eras, unique drops that'd do for a great modern level counterpart or they could just do completely new ***....

The fights would be challenging on VD between Watchers form changes and Gyves, or Bahamut's Wyrm adds.

Other than that, on my wishlist would be an iLvl HTMB variant of all 3 mini expansions. Moogle Kupo d'Etat was a challenging fight at 75 and would be fun now. ACP's final boss was really interesting, Seed Crystal, that would charm people, make clones of people, and was just obnoxious. Dominus Shantotto + Shantotto final fight is pretty iconic to the franchise as well.

Those 3 fights they could reward literally ANYTHING they want, and they have 3 hats / 3 bodys / and 3 legs equipment models to play with that are otherwise quite unique.

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I believe Metus, the promathia reskin, is a model not seen ever again after Rhapsodies if you want to count that. They might be some other "TECHNICALLY" models used once only. But I was under the impression you meant once only.

Morimar + Darcuillin are only ever fought in SR. SE could add them as a duo fight to Ra'kaznar terrace to utilize that arena for more than just Hades + Oathsworn Blade, and the rewards could be the login point themed items at iLvl.... Just a thought

A HTMB fight against Garazu-Horeizu, the main villain of TVR, utilizing the unique teleporter in castle zvahl which is only used for TVR final fight and Wings of War, would ALSO be nice. He's kind of a pain in the *** the one time you fight him. They made that unique arena on the interdimensional throne room bridge... "Gwora - Throne Room".

Ultimately, I want SE to implement more Occasional fights, whether they be Peach Powers or HTMBs like Cloud of Darkness, and I want them to re-use assets they have neglected. It's a waste of previous dev team efforts to design a huge space or a monster to be seen once ever, and hopefully that'd make it easier to scale up to ilvl for a revamp. We all know Limbus in its current state is a complete flop, whether your JP or western, no one likes it. Besieged is another miss, with no rewards and no change to frequency. I understand their dev team is short handed, but what they're spending all their efforts on is NOT bearing fruit
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By Nariont 2025-10-19 20:30:22
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Those 3 fights they could reward literally ANYTHING they want, and they have 3 hats / 3 bodys / and 3 legs equipment models to play with that are otherwise quite unique.

Could go even further if you add in the augmented items each of those final fights added, ACP iirc was an earring with augs for about every style, MKD rings, and ASA i think was down to a mage or melee style belt, a lot of reward potential to play with in those fights if they were willing to go back to them.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-19 20:47:34
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no random augs pls :(
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-10-19 20:54:04
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Finally a way to kill my adventuring fellow forever!

They need to let us trade in the pearl and make our fellow a trust.

Would permit a customizable trust.
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By Nariont 2025-10-19 22:40:20
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
no random augs pls :(

But then its not a true remake of the fight! Not that it would be the 1st time they did that (waking the beast got done dirty). But just meant they could make a bunch of various accessories along with the unique pieces themselves.

Fact all the rewards were augmented even if chosen in the case of the armor itself likely poses an issue though but im sure they could add an ilvl variant and just reward another KI to repeat the process.
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