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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-03 06:16:17
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I spent over 6 millions galli in Armor ugprades :-(
That's almost a stage 5 prime!
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By K123 2025-10-03 08:27:10
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I could probably use another 1m per char even without starting any more jobs. Making it a stage4 per char in armor. I've basically stopped here for many months though, hate the content.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-10-03 10:54:39
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
The only other remotely comparable time gate besides primes is garden, and that doesn't lead to serious endgame weapons (but should probably still be reduced).

I still to this day do not understand why they chose to link Ygnas acquisition to Mog Gardens. It's quite literally in the way just for the sake of being in the way. The fact that it takes so long to get through is the biggest frustration, and many players have skipped this (along with all of Adoulin quests) and don't bother with the HQ ring either. I happen to believe unnecessary time gates discourage people from the content altogether, rather than prolong the content's life.

I eventually did Mog Gardens after I took a long break (because I had no groups to do things with and a lot of time, so it was there to do). I complained years ago about the model, because it was just dumb. But I don't feel like other people now should suffer through that nonsense just because I did. Kind of screams of old man "back in my day" vibes.

I'm not advocating for making things easier just for the sake of them being easier. It's an MMO game, so you should play the game and it's supposed to be time consuming. But content that has been out for a long time that has time restrictions that were appropriate for the time the content was release but no longer, IMO, should be lowered or removed, because it adds back incentive to the player to do it; You're spending time doing something you ottherwise would not vs just ignoring it. You see what happens when they introduce unrewarding things like Shinryu HTBF or Limbus NMs, you get players that ignore the fight entirely because it's an insult to their time. Designing stuff like that for a 20+ yr old game is a terrible idea. And now we're seeing how they "roll back" or "adjust" things that take a lot of time. Evidently, SE realized these time gates are also somewhat unnecessary after a certain point.
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By Nariont 2025-10-03 11:21:28
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I still to this day do not understand why they chose to link Ygnas acquisition to Mog Gardens. It's quite literally in the way just for the sake of being in the way.

Incentive to complete it was always my go-to guess, once you hit monster rearing MG ceases to matter to most people, moreso once the vast majority of the already rng of materials lost their value, but unlike say monstrosity we -need- to give you a reason to finish and justify the yrs spent working on the thing so ygnas/+1 rings it was

Honestly the whole thing should be decoupled from gardens and just be based around adoulin fame/rank, especially now that the rank time gate is getting shortened which was the only reason i ever completed gardens; because the 6 month gate is roughly the same time wall as fully finishing gardens
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-10-03 12:31:48
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I still to this day do not understand why they chose to link Ygnas acquisition to Mog Gardens.
There's not much to understand.
They wanted Ygnas to be a reward for completing ALL of SoA content at that time, and Mog Gardens was simply part of it.
That's it, it's not particularly complicated.

I mean I'm not saying I do approve or endorse this, just that this was their extremely simple and straightforward reason.
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By Kaffy 2025-10-03 12:38:30
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it was a clear sign you had fully cleared everything there was to do in seekers, agreed. whether or not he's worth it is another story.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-03 13:00:19
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Locking a whm trust behind a pile of *** shows you their priorities.

Don't make any good whm trusts and lock the only good one behind 6 months of dogshit.

(then add monberaux, locked behind a year worth of dogshit)
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By Dodik 2025-10-03 13:08:05
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I doubt they would care to make things much easier if XIV wasn't sucking the big one right now, also coinciding with XIV players trying out XI for the first time.
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By Kaffy 2025-10-03 13:21:33
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ygnas doesn't even use nott, does he? wouldn't call him a good whm trust without it
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By Nariont 2025-10-03 13:24:16
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he has cure pants in exchange and has a better cure AI than most of the other whm trusts
also has capped CPI, and gets an aoe heal TP move that gives 30 regen and +25% def, relly his worst aspect is the haste/enlight move along with the aoe dmg move. If those werent there he'd be perfect
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-10-03 14:14:00
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K123 said: »
hate the content.
I think I hate it more than anyone

Infact - I hate it so much I demand SE give me a Stage 5 prime for free - only way id stop torrenting their games
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By Dodik 2025-10-03 14:16:31
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I don't trust anyone that went 1/gazillion on purple dragons.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-10-03 14:26:28
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Dodik said: »
I don't trust anyone that went 1/gazillion on purple dragons.
Rude.... it was 1/Gazillion and 1 - Get it right....

(honestly, it was like 1/30-40)
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