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I still wonder what they think players are doing to obtain this quantity of Alex. Forget the cost and time burning old content, just trading that quantity is insanely irritating. Then you have to get Beitetsu, do trials, etc.

I've always wished they would give players a reasonable way to earn a Cats Eye or something doing current content. Trade x segments/rp, y galli, whatever - something other than what we have to do now, which is either buy all of it or grind old *** content forever.

I would love someone to ask Fujito-san face-to-face - "You said getting a prime weapon is possible solo. What setup have you used to beat Aminon solo to be able to make that claim."

SE talks a lot of ***and doesn't get called on it. I remember the ***show in the official JP forums when HQ Aminon was first released. Yet not a single person has called out that, even if you could somehow solo 7.5m muffins in a single human life time, how the *** are you beating Aminon solo. Or any boss really.

Oh keep in mind he said that BEFORE they nerfed the basement bosses, fully aware that they were all to be in that enraged mode after stage 4.

That's what I keep coming back to with SE and their plan for XI. That was their original vision for Primes, which they doubled down on before backing off. It's evidence of just how out of touch they are.

I'm actually not opposed to the difficulty spike in the basement they had planned, IMO the *** part was the claim above and that the rewards were the same. If they had sped up the galli gains for stage 5 by beating the harder bosses, I'd be 100% ok with that, but keeping them the same, claiming it can be done solo, and then doubling down on it is just lol

ambu is the intended solution to RMEA currencies, which is mostly fine, enough to make good progress or sell some but not instantly finish a weapon every month. the problem is they conveniently turn an eye from the 24/7 salvage bots that supply enough alex to finish weapons instantly on demand. would take all of 5 minutes looking at logs to see that 99% of salvage participation is a few bots, with the rest being real people doing trials and not farming alex themselves.

They have no reason to ever do that

Lose subscribers. cause other players to be mad about no alex flow.

Whats the upside; there isn't one

I'm sure they would just come back and say "You can get a stage 3 and stage 4 prime solo. Fully completing a prime requires beating bosses which is a team effort." or some BS like that.

Like a politician hiding behind semantics to excuse lying through their teeth.

Idk how accurate this translation is but the quote isn't remotely what you said.

What was the question exactly. Just showing an answer with no context is not helpful.

From here.

Cool so a stage 4, 3.5m muffins, is "soloable" right?

Got it.

He's right, it is.

He didn't say how long it would take or whether it's possible to solo a stage 4 within a human life time.

He never did state timeframes, he's full of ***but didn't lie

The full context being; you can "work on it" solo. Not necessarily "complete it".

And who knows, if they overpower trusts enough (a lot) maybe you can solo hard aminon. 10 years from now we'll have tertiary jobs and be igarbage 199.
3k meva and 10k hp and break the 100k damage cap with no buffs.

Technically, no lies were told and everything there is right.

You can "chip away at it bit by bit even as a solo player", and "the final stage might be a bit tough" if you're unable to find friends (as most people here seem to be incapable of).


So he's right, and someone has previously said

Weren't there several interviews on the subject?

I seem to recall one where he said some fast groups would finish within six months, but more directly stated they could be soloed. So a little different than the one above. It happened after they first teased them but before phase 3 was actually added.

It's hard to keep track of the interviews and it gets muddy over time as people add their own interpretations/translations, but I was pretty certain there was another discussion where he said they were entirely soloable. Maybe I'm wrong or misread it.

That's what I remember also, though also don't give enough *** to go look for it.

SE's imagination of what is reasonable to expect of players to do and what players are actually willing to do are wildly different.

No, that is someone's poor comprehension or a poorly worded(possibly translation) question. Also failure to count.


The interviewer asked if people would be able to finish in 6 months. Fujito said 'a few people may finish by the end of the year'. May through December is 8 months kids.

Same as previous players do it; you'd trade as you go. If there's something id like SE to add it'd be a currency moogle similar to the crystal moogle who you can store all the rema currency into, slap it into the mog garden. We have currency npcs for just about everything else so i dont see why this would be any different.

As for changing the amounts, in a healthier game with content coming in regularly and a stronger player base they might look to being more lenient on older stuff, but as is it's better long term to keep the limited player base on the treadmill as long as possible, as once they run out of stuff to do, they're likely not gonna be back for some time as nothing new is really coming out, for example within the past yr i think we've only had besieged additions and now limbus, and that'll likely be the same by the end of this yr with limbus maybe being partially done and besieged maybe being complete.

So keep them stuck on older stuff for as long as possible, cause once they're done, they're done, there's also that SE doesnt seem to like touching the legacy stuff too much, whether that be lack of know-how or respecting older stuff, or what have you.

Only 2000 people online... wtf, thinking about going to Baha before they close the gates now.

Well we just went through the rapture. So all those afk bots are still offline.

I again state i would not go to bahamut knowing they're closing it. It's a time bomb with a short timer. But you do you.

If so many have moved there is it not better to be trapped on a bigger closed server?

If it's just bots offline then it's 400++ of the server population, like 20% right now.

Who's to say that once baha closes it wont be in a similar state? If you want to keep hopping that's an option but could just mean you're stuck on an even smaller server with no way back for a time

It wont stay a bigger server. As soon as it closes all the people that went there, will leave.

Square is going to fleece you twice. Pay to move to bahamut, pay to move out of bahamut.

And they'll fleece your *** again if you go to Odin from there.

So why are they moving? Is it the gil buyers moving to be able to buy?

This is mostly just a rhetorical question but...do you think at all before you type these messages? Do you think gil isn't available for sale on servers except the most populated ones? There are GS on every server who will gladly sell you massive amounts of gil.

People (like you) are flocking to whatever server they think they can get content done on. Whether that be from making friends and finding groups, PUGing, mercing, or whatever their preferred method is.

Hes not really the brightest poster, just loves to hate on the game, you are wasting your time replying to him because he does it to be snarky.

I mean
to be faihhhhhh


He may have not been lying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The game does not necessarily need to be easier, but it certainly does need to be more accessible. It's a 23 year old game, the majority of us are 'old-timers' which means you are very likely AT LEAST in your mid to late 30's if not 40+/50+

How is that real life clashing with your ability grind out 12 hours a day now? Is it any wonder people bot?! Well, that's a topic for another day...

Reduce the grind? I wouldn't say no, and I can see why the ask. However, just make the game more accessible and remove the silly gates.

Yes - 1 man dyna entry. We need to enter 4 diffent entires just to unlock Relic Armour stage 2 upgrades.

Other time gated content. Keep the timers, just remove the entry cap. i.e. let Mogolophones generate every 20 hours, but let us stack more than 1. This balances how much one can ultimately grind out, but makes it more accessible for both solo, and easier to find parties. Compare and contrast:

"Sure, I can come/help you, cos i'm sat on X many Mogolophones"
Vs
"I would help, but i'm locked out for another 5 hours, sorry"

Just let us pick and choose our grind, and importantly, when we do that.

Also... INb4 someone says "BUT MAH ECONOMY?!". lol. The economy is dependant on players moving goods, so you want to encourage access to content, not gate keep it. What you really mean is "but my particular income stream might be disrupted slightly!" - to which i say "I'm sure you are enterprising enough to find another, just like every other disruption over the last 23 years".

/endrant

Issue isn't the economy, it's that Asura queue times would explode on weekends if groups were doing 7 back to back sheol runs. They could be planning some of those changes if they can ever get servers balanced again.

The butthurt is strong with this one. I don't see how this is hating on the game either, just Draylo being a salty *** as usual. It's ok Draylo, you can pretend you play FFXI when we know you don't but you can't move on with your life and do anything positive with it.

How is it not a legit question? If gil disappeared from Asura to feed other servers, how I understand it generally happened, then there would be no way to get more gil back to Asura. Thus it would make sense if you want to buy gil to move to another server which still has a population. Similarly if service sellers (people that take money to do content/points) got banned they would probably buy new accounts on Asura if they could, but even the market for accounts would dry up eventually. To me, these seem like logical arguments which would cause people to move. I welcome reasoned, rational responses and will continue to pity the morons trying to insult me.

I wasn't lying. I'm also not lying when I say I'm in Intertel, and an Assistant Professor at the #1 uni in my field in the UK ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Swings and roundabouts :)

Everything moves like a snake.

The head moves and each segment of the body moves shortly after.

If a server closes, the head moves and the body follows.

New players go to (server), they start a "I need people to play with" movement to (server), the mercs follow customers, RMT follow the mercs, the crafters follow the mercs, the whole economy shifted.

Sales on asura are slowing, because the mercs are leaving, because the customers can't come in anymore. The exact same thing will happen on bahamut.

It's just how society works. Follow money. A closed "border" means no new money to chase.