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By Dodik 2025-09-25 21:19:57
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If anything h-p bayld price will go up if making an Ergon is easier.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-25 21:34:57
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I dont know about that. There are two weapons (two very good weapons) that need Bayld. There are 20 weapons that need alexandrite, atleast 8 of which are very good.

Unless you're constantly making new characters every 4 months because your ***keeps getting banned (and you keep coming back to do the same ***that gets you banned over and over), I cant imagine the imprim's being that much of a road block.

"I've had my char since 2018 but I refuse to do coalitions hmph"
Sounds dumb
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-25 21:42:05
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Dodik said: »
If anything h-p bayld price will go up if making an Ergon is easier.

Yes and no. More will want, so price will go up. More will get, so price will go down.

relatively neutral. If done correctly.
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By Lili 2025-09-26 03:27:17
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H-P Bayld will spike in price for a while as everyone who has a pocket geo and never bothered scrambles to make an Idris for it, and supply is low. Then it will normalize. If you have stockpiles, hang onto them. And go make a stockpile now.
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By warmech 2025-09-26 04:39:51
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how long was it originally per assault tag?
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-09-26 04:49:46
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warmech said: »
how long was it originally per assault tag?

24 hours.
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By K123 2025-09-26 05:33:56
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »


"I've had my char since 2018 but I refuse to do coalitions hmph"
Sounds dumb
More like "I refuse to do menial tasks hundreds of times on a schedule dictated by a video game"
Remove this pointless gating and there'll be more Idris out there, everyone benefits. Keep it gated and everyone suffers struggling to find Idris geo for static or shout, everyone suffers.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-26 05:48:24
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I could see 20 taru bots running kill 5 twitherym every 10 minutes being an issue.

There are only so many twitherym. It takes 10,000 Bayld to get one H-P bayld, and you get 6000 for a 3 imprim twitherym run. If you can round trip it in 90 seconds, you could get a stack of H-P Bayld currently worth 300k every ... 4 hours.

I don't think it'd really hurt anything to have them be effectively unlimited like assault tags. Every mission besides the item turnins requires zoning twice, and the items already cost more than the bayld they can be redeemed for. They just aren't valuable enough to spam.
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By K123 2025-09-26 05:56:33
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Isn't hp bayld farmed by bots running circles doing reives in marjami still?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-26 06:11:40
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Doesn't seem to be anyone in Marjami atm, but I have no idea where H-P Bayld is actually coming from tbh. There doesn't really seem like a source that's worth farming on it's own, and most of the content is pretty dated.
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 06:18:34
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Most bayld now days is from Ambu.

Even farming N ambu would be faster than trying to bot farm reives for a pitiful amount of bayld.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-26 06:31:41
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
I could see 20 taru bots running kill 5 twitherym every 10 minutes being an issue.

There are only so many twitherym. It takes 10,000 Bayld to get one H-P bayld, and you get 6000 for a 3 imprim twitherym run. If you can round trip it in 90 seconds, you could get a stack of H-P Bayld currently worth 300k every ... 4 hours.

I don't think it'd really hurt anything to have them be effectively unlimited like assault tags. Every mission besides the item turnins requires zoning twice, and the items already cost more than the bayld they can be redeemed for. They just aren't valuable enough to spam.

It doesn't have to be really really good to still be a problem. Think about 18 incursion bots who get 300 stacks of wings/feathers/tusks and instead of npcing them turn in 700 coalition assignments
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-09-26 07:01:46
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Just logged in and got an SP key. I know campaigns started up again today, but if I read PoL right, that campaign should have been completely over with on the 23rd. Did SE *** up the campaign rotation they set up this month?
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By K123 2025-09-26 07:02:58
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Doesn't seem to be anyone in Marjami atm, but I have no idea where H-P Bayld is actually coming from tbh. There doesn't really seem like a source that's worth farming on it's own, and most of the content is pretty dated.
That's what I wondered, I have been in Marjami a few times recently and saw none. Was it not profitable or easily banned?
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 07:03:25
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
Did SE *** up the campaign rotation they set up this month?

Part of the previous campaigns started again today after a three day gap for #se-reasons.

SE: Why make things simple when we can make them completely and utterly over complicated for no frigging reason.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-26 07:07:50
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Box 1 runs both periods.
Box 2 first 2 weeks only.
Box 3 second 2 weeks only.



Right now Boxes 1 and 3 are on
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2025-09-26 07:12:17
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Box 1 runs both periods.
Box 2 first 2 weeks only.
Box 3 second 2 weeks only.



Right now Boxes 1 and 3 are on

Yeah, I assumed the top part of Box 1 was part of the first 2 weeks, and the bottom part of Box 1 was the week 3 like the campaigns in Box 4. *** Squeenix...
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-26 07:14:37
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K123 said: »
Was it not profitable

This would be my guess. 300k a stack for something you farm one at a time is abysmal.

Asura.Eiryl said: »
Think about 18 incursion bots who get 300 stacks of wings/feathers/tusks and instead of npcing them turn in 700 coalition assignments
I'm still not seeing the scale as relevant, tbh. If you cut the cooldown to 10 min and leave the tag cap at 15, you get a whopping 5 * 11400 = 57k bayld (5.7 h-p bayld) every 2.5 hours from dullahan armor (and the rest are worth less). Someone making every single turnin 24/7 all month would walk away with 1642 h-p bayld. Expand it to 18 chars and you have a little over 2 ergon's worth of extra bayld in the market.

That's also assuming an ultra aggressive 24/7 incursion farm that isn't actioned and cares enough to add imprim dumping and doesn't lose time to being in incursion when cooldown maxes. I don't see it moving the needle, probably wouldn't even match the additional demand from easier prereqs.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-26 07:15:54
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Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Right now Boxes 1 and 3 are on

Yeah, I assumed the top part of Box 1 was part of the first 2 weeks, and the bottom part of Box 1 was the week 3 like the campaigns in Box 4. *** Squeenix...

It should've been done better
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 07:18:25
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I had to farm just 300k bayld on alts to be able to exchange Adoulin rings. It was frigging brutal.

Farming copper vouchers while doing other things and turning them into bayld was a better time:reward than spamming reives.

There is no way farming bayld will ever be a profitable way to get h-p bayld, at the current rate of getting bayld, legitimate or no.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-26 07:19:40
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Being good isn't a requirement for doing it

People still do it. Loop morimar reives endlessly. Stand at marjami lairs 24/7. Loop WKR during campaign.
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 07:28:53
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WKR during campaign works, I know people that farm those manually.

Now if they did what they should have done 10 years ago and let ionis give you bayld when you gain XP/CP like literally every single other area buff does..
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By Ragnarok.Vargasfinio 2025-09-26 07:36:28
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Back to the Tenzen mines today...
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2025-09-26 07:48:22
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Box 1 runs both periods.
Box 2 first 2 weeks only.
Box 3 second 2 weeks only.



Right now Boxes 1 and 3 are on

You mean blupurple boxes ? :D
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-26 07:51:34
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See if you say the blurples, then people think half of box 1

Both entire boxes that contain blurple hexagons

Simplified;
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2025-09-26 07:53:08
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For those who are color blind, just look at the actual dates ;)
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-26 08:08:39
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honestly, as bad as their chart design is, if you can't look at it and figure out what's going on then i'm not sure you can figure out the events anyway
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-26 08:23:09
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They could have fixed this chart with one neat trick:


Top = first half
middle = both
bottom = second half


It flows chronologically, and your eyes will catch boxes 1+2 or boxes 1+3, instead of the second half being boxes 1+3.
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 08:25:27
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It's dumb and over-complicated and no amount of "it's your fault you can't read the chart" will ever ever make it right.
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By Asura.Tarquine 2025-09-26 09:44:58
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I can figure it out, but I am vexed by having to pause longer than I should to ascertain - what should be - simple information.

SE really want to make you work, even just for frickin event info.
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