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I don't like adding or editing information unless I can verify and the test was done properly. I stated as much in my last sentence that someone can verify what I noticed. I would have added it eventually, but always good to have a number of people verify if you're unsure

I disagree. Evading an attack means you avoided getting hit and avoided damage :) so even if my test was incorrect it's still useful as an evasion item. I also haven't ranked mine past r1 because I'm lazy



I don't have a good way to test these in an evasion build unless Bard with SV songs or something, but no additional alt to heal so it might take a while. I can reattempt the test when I get a chance. Maybe in one of the sheols is a good place to start

It's a mix of both
Sometimes movement speed is good on certain pulls
Sometimes movement speed is bad on certain pulls

The mercs are going to go where the demand is, and this is a side effect of Asura being locked down.

Bahamut has a significant legitimate player population, and with many new players choosing to play here, it is inevitable. That said, Asura had years of the merc culture building and acceptance of it happened gradually over time. It happened without people realizing until it was really too late [insert boiled frog analogy].

If Bahamut players don't want it to get that bad, it doesn't have to.

I certainly hope you're right. can't really stop the /yell advertising, the only way to fight it is to not buy anything so they give up.

You definitely do not have a choice, as unfortunate as that is.

It's only when, not if

Sand in the hourglass. As the new ones trickle in, they will (have) to pick baha. As the pop grows, the mercs will have to follow the money. As the mercs raise the bar on your standard gear, the toxicity will flow.

One day very soon, youre going to see "our server is better than asura you should come here" Shooting yourselves in the ***.

Meanwhile, no one ever talks about Odin, they're way smarter than you guys. (if I were on Odin native, I'd ask that ***be locked now)

Your last line kind of destroys the rest of your argument, doesn't it? Would the overflow not continue in this chain of events?

Eventually, but it has to destroy bahamut first. It took almost 10 years for asura. And while it will happen faster, that's still a ways away.

That's long enough to realize other solutions are required.

It will happen unless all of the multiboxers and high level players decide to invest all of their time helping every single lowbie/newbie and shouting nonstop for an "alternative" method. Or you force every player to block every single yell spam message ahead of time so temptation doesn't set in. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Nonstop yell spam to sell you merc services for virtually everything is going to crowd out any "no, don't buy from them!".

Newbie spending hours of their time looking for a group to help them kill a monster, or just pay 1/3/5/10m for it. Or fill a JP party. Or Odyssey Seg farm. Or HTBF. Sortie/Gaol etc. Eventually people will give in. Then it trickles down, then you have a huge problem.

Oh it's coming. But you can stop the bleeding. The mistake people made was telling everyone to come to Asura for years. Don't do that. Tell everyone on every single post how terrible Bahamut is, and how it's worse than Asura. You'll at least limit some migrations and character creations there. Forcing the mercs somewhere else (this you can hope for)

Eiryl wrong, as usual


Asura was the #1 NA server, there were like 2 reddit groups that always told people to go to Asura, which is why all the scum flocked to it.
Odin was the #1 JP server.
Bahamut was the #2 NA server for a long time, and it was a very distant number two.

Don't believe me? Here are numbers from April 2021. Asura had twice the population as Bahamut, and was pretty far behind Odin. Fast forward four years later (late March 2025, so still before the Asuran lockdown announcement). Asura had a moderate lead on Bahamut, but Bahamut has a larger pop than Odin. The growth of Bahamut was probably all the NA players who left for the other popular NA server that wasnt overrun with scum.

Move onto todays numbers: Bahamut's population has grown more than Odin's population.


I dont think the JP population of Odin will let their server turn into a cesspool the way the NA population of Bahamut will allow their server to fall to ruin. Among everything else, remember this:
SE routinely listens to feedback from their JP playerbase, and GM calls from JP players get answered promptly.

If you want or think you need an evasion item, just use a better evasion item? BLU and BRD are the jobs you mentioned:
- Malignance exists for BLU (DEF:88 AGI+49 Eva+119 Meva+150 DT-4%
- BRD could use Fili +3 (DEF:96 AGI+44 Eva+113 Meva+157 Regen+4 Movement Speed+18%)
- Either are better than Hippo+1 R15 with its DEF:60 AGI+43 Eva+106~111 Meva+107

Can just use Hippo Socks to get the Flee proc, then swap to a higher eva/meva/DT piece for its defensive benefits. If anything, might even look at an overall set that intentionally reduces evasion (but with capped DT and good defense) to fish for the flee proc, then once flee is active change to your higher eva/meva/DT piece.

I guess there's a question of whether Hippo Socks can re-proc Flee before it ends, or if it has to wear off first to get a new proc. That could be a reason to just fulltime Hippos and hope to keep the Flees rolling.

You're missing the point I made. Assuming I'm not mistaken and they actually DO proc on misses, the feet are double duty: you 1) evade attacks (no damage), and if attacks get through and land, you 2) have a chance to proc flee and run away from further attacks (less damage taken). Using a better evasion feet just allows you to evade better, but you can't evade everything. Sum of all parts, diminishing returns, etc.


This is what a toggle is. I assumed this is how anyone would use these, it's how I do.