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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-08-22 19:50:48
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I do want to clarify again that I am not discrediting or disapproving of any of the work that has been done.

Nor do I wanna do Simpsons did it.

Aside from dev things that devs do, there is a pattern that is emerging and I am curious about it.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-08-22 19:50:54
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I do want to clarify again that I am not discrediting or disapproving of any of the work that has been done.

Nor do I wanna do Simpsons did it.

Aside from dev things that devs do, there is a pattern that is emerging and I am curious about it.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-08-23 03:18:30
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I know everyone is hyped for potential Ultima / Omega, but it's been more than 12 seconds since they released new Caturae.
Now with Fetters!
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By K123 2025-08-23 03:25:11
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Lili said: »

Sortie by comparison has absolutely zero new assets and 99% behaviors already seen previously somewhere.
Hey, they changed the mob names! That took effort.
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By Dodik 2025-08-23 03:38:12
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Can you think of places requiring:
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Getting naked?

Many, most including Mithras. Definitely not Tarus, not my kink.

What was the question again?
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 06:29:49
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Even more confusing campaigns.

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■ Phase 1
Friday, September 12, 2025, at 1:00 a.m. (PDT) to Tuesday, September 23, at 7:59 a.m.

■ Phase 2
Friday, September 26, 2025, at 1:00 a.m. (PDT) to Wednesday, October 8, at 7:59 a.m.

There are three separate campaigns, all ending at different times.
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By Lili 2025-08-26 06:55:48
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I kinda get the split, people have been complaining about too many concurrent campaigns, what I don't get is there being two days without campaigns active for... seemingly no reason.

On second thought, if that hole wasn't there, there would be nothing new. It's not the first time we've had multiple campaigns, starting and ending at different times, overlapping partially.

It's those two empty days that really look weird ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 07:21:09
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Well they say two phases, and when I looked at the dates it's actually three separate campaigns, one ending Sep 23rd, other Sep 26th and the last starting Sep 26 - Oct 8.

Why are there two campaigns that start on Sep 12th ending at two different dates.

Just seems like over-complexity for the sake of complexity.
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By Lili 2025-08-26 07:28:06
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Nothing ends on the 26th.

There's in total 16 campaigns, split into three groups.

7 of these begin on the 12th and end on the 8th (group A), with two days of pause in the middle (24 and 25)

5 of these begin on the 12th and end on the 23rd (group B)

4 of these begin on the 26th and end on the 8th (group C)

So
during Phase 1, group A + B is active (12th > 23rd)
during Phase 2, group A + C is active (26th > 8th)
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 07:31:07
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Definitely seems like over-complexity for the sake of complexity.
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By Lili 2025-08-26 07:46:25
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Dodik said: »
Definitely seems like over-complexity for the sake of complexity.

You're free to keep not wanting to understand it, but it's a lot simpler than you're giving it credit for:

Lili said: »
during Phase 1, group A + B is active (12th > 23rd)
during Phase 2, group A + C is active (26th > 8th)

Maybe it's how the dates are presented that is confusing to you?
Each box contains both the start *and* the end date. Maybe this helps:



They even made two of the box slightly more blue and the other two slightly more purple, to highlight how they coincide.
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 08:07:02
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Lol. I understand it just fine, thanks for explaining it though.

It's still overly complicated IMO.

They could have said Sep 12-Oct8 for the first two and Sep 26-Oct 8 for the other one.

Which is what they have now except there's a two day gap in the middle just 'cause.
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By Kaffy 2025-08-26 09:17:44
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the ruspix's plate of campaigns. just leave well enough alone ffs
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-08-26 09:24:20
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I mean, the 1/5 rate isn't great, but the actual system of Ruspix's plate offers significant advantages over older systems like Omen, Dynamis [D] (before the added a Ruspix plate-style system, and Odyssey.

If you do Odyssey every 24 hours, you're wasting 4 hours' worth of time every day and will never get a double run.

If you do Dynamis [D] every 3 days, you're wasting 12 hours' worth of time every run. If you do it 4 days the next time, to stay at twice/week on the same days-of-week, you're wasting 42 hours the second time.

Ruspix's plate solves all of these inefficiencies by automatically storing that time for you.

"Leaving well enough alone" in this case means perpetuating shitty systems and not trying to innovate on them or make them better which...I guess that is an option, but is that really what we want to encourage them to do?
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By Kaffy 2025-08-26 09:37:19
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20hrs is dumb anyway, keep it simple. do you really enjoy adjusting your event schedules at different times just to squeeze in an extra run? not me. in the grand scheme of things 1 extra sortie run means very little.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 09:59:08
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Ruspix's plate offers significant advantages over older systems like Omen
The *** you mean Ruspix plate has an advantage over Omen's system?

If Omen had a Ruspix plate, you would need to skip Omen for 5 days just to get an extra run. Instead you can do up to X runs over X days at your leisure, where X is < 3 or 4 if you pregrab KI.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-08-26 10:10:12
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At least when you want to know how long before you can enter Omen/Dyna again, they'll tell you "12 hours" and not "43127 seconds." Ruspix system is so poorly-implemented it's like something out of a comedy movie.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:33:32
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Well how else are you supposed to know if that 1 hour ends in 30 seconds or 3600 seconds?!?
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2025-08-26 10:34:18
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Kaffy said: »
20hrs is dumb anyway, keep it simple. do you really enjoy adjusting your event schedules at different times just to squeeze in an extra run? not me. in the grand scheme of things 1 extra sortie run means very little.

Eh, I always liked the 20 hour designation. It's once a day; you don't need to go immediately when the 20 hours run up. God forbid we get a little flexibility.
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 10:50:08
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The storing time system - where SE has yet to learn how to do integer division by 3600.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-08-26 10:50:12
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Kaffy said: »
20hrs is dumb anyway, keep it simple. do you really enjoy adjusting your event schedules at different times just to squeeze in an extra run? not me. in the grand scheme of things 1 extra sortie run means very little.

That's kind of the whole point of the system. You don't need to adjust your schedule at all to get an extra run.

If you do:
1 Omen every day
1 Odyssey seg farm every day
1 Sortie every day
All at the exact same time, every single day, always.

You will only ever do 1 Omen/Ody per day, forever.
You will do 1 Sortie every day, and then every month you will get a free tag.

It's literally free ***, without ever having to adjust your schedule at all. You also don't have to go to an NPC to pick up a tag to store time, it happens automatically without you even thinking about it.

Aside from the conversion rate (5:1), and I guess the cap of 2 tags at once, it's literally just a more convenient version of the old systems. The old ones burn 4 hours/day of "useful" time and Sortie saves it for you.

It's also more useful because you can spend *half* a tag to go 10 hours early if you want. It's just a more flexible version of the same system but everyone gets butthurt because they can't do math.

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At least when you want to know how long before you can enter Omen/Dyna again, they'll tell you "12 hours" and not "43127 seconds." Ruspix system is so poorly-implemented it's like something out of a comedy movie.

Again, matter of preference I guess but: When the Moogle in Rabao tells you that you can't go for another 12 hours, does that mean 12h59m, or 12h1m?

I know in 2025 it's REALLY HARD to find a way to divide by 3600, but if you can manage to leap that really high hurdle, you can know exactly how long until you can use your Ruspix plate, as opposed to a guess +/- 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

Here's your Ruspix calculator.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 11:16:26
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Kaffy said: »
20hrs is dumb anyway, keep it simple. do you really enjoy adjusting your event schedules at different times just to squeeze in an extra run? not me. in the grand scheme of things 1 extra sortie run means very little.
The 20 hours is fine

It used to be 24 hours, except the 24 hours would always slowly get delayed.

If you plan to start at 7:00, but enter at 7:05, you're locked until 7:05 the next day. Then the next day you start 3 minutes late, its 7:08 next. And so on, you can only fall behind, never catch up on time, unless you skip a run completely. I do remember we used to run Dynamis on Tuesday evening and Saturday afternoon, for this very reason, albeit on a 72 hour timer, not 24. I cant entirely remember and I'm having problems citing this one, but I do believe some events also had their re-entry timer based on when you exit the event?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 11:24:35
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Dude
why you defending the shitty Ruspix plate system? Even as you're trying to defend them, you cant avoid the truth and point out how shitty they are:
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Aside from the conversion rate (5:1), and I guess the cap of 2 tags at once


Omen is the perfect system that addresses flexibility while also gatekeeping to prevent nearly-infinite entry.
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By Kaffy 2025-08-26 11:30:41
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its just a bunch of needless bloat that could be simplified. automatically refresh your entry KI for all events without needing to talk to an npc, or at the very least add a timers menu similar to ffxiv so that you can track everything in one location the same way you can track currencies. this would include montly campaigns as per original topic.
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By Lili 2025-08-26 11:32:18
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
they'll tell you "12 hours" and not "43127 seconds."

I made an addon for that! I'll publish it... eventually.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-08-26 11:37:59
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Good news, everyone! This month's Vana'bout will unlock 9,874,156 seconds of Cornelia! Be sure to not miss out, as objectives change every 86,400 seconds. Though some don't, we call it the "86,400 seconds, second chance event!"
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-08-26 11:40:37
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Good news, everyone! This month's Vana'bout will unlock 114 Days, 6 hours, 49 minutes, 16 seconds of Cornelia! Be sure to not miss out, as objectives change every 24 hours. Though some don't, we call it the "24 hour, second chance event!"

Updates provided by Ruspix calculator.

In case it wasn't obvious, because it seems like it really isn't to certain smooth-brained members of the community: there's a big difference between a daily counter or a 3 week long campaign that starts and ends at an exact Earth hour and a system that allows players to use exact seconds of time at any point they want, on a whim, and that tracks every second of time that they are accruing.

That's why they decided to display seconds and not hours. It's called "precision." I'm sure it would've been better if they said "15 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds", but maybe they overestimated the ability of a bunch of nerds to figure out how to divide. It seems they were wrong and should've been more pessimistic about their audience.
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By Kaffy 2025-08-26 11:51:52
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what world do you live in where people measure everything in seconds only?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 12:00:42
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Can I make a sex joke or is that immature?
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By Seun 2025-08-26 12:08:11
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It could just be an exact time, but I'd rather have seconds than just a general 'hours' until it's under 1 hour and you get a more precise time. Same thing goes for buffs/debuffs and the 'minutes' until exact seconds. Just display total seconds countdown.
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