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It's no secret that I love ffxi's story content, but I recognize how much of an opportunity cost a new mini expansion would be. If they are dedicated several years of work on new content, it wouldn't make sense to make that content 1-time quests that reward some need accessories.

That having been said, we've heard this aversion to new stories before... If and when FFXI' budget gets a bump and they are still singing the same tune, that would be more cause for concern.

I think it's that they are spacing out the gear after all. Next is AF / Relic upgrades to be more in line with existing Odysea / Emby +3. I think maybe next year we might see Ambu +3 gear to be slightly under them.


Woah there, that's asking too much. Gotta keep expectations manageable.

Honestly. VR story was so bad I wish they will just use resources to make fun content.

Thus spake Saevel, the idiot sandwich.

Fucshia. We've talked about this.

Pretty sure they also said that Sortie bosses would have weapon/armor drops added to them, years ago. They say a lot of things.

It did say the opposite.

Quote from the Freshly Picked Slide (1:58:52)

Had to double check because I've been telling people the wrong thing lol.

Ok maybe this came out stronger than it sounded in my head lol

Still though, SE hasn't had a "hard requirement" of 18man for content in a very long time if ever? and SE has said for a long while now they are making adjustments for newer players and making the game more solo friendly, Sortie was that partially for at least the +2 upgrades to empy and now Limbus is going to fulfill that even more.

Imo not having alliancable content has hurt the game more than help, as my LS is now 1/3 of the size that it was 3-4 years ago, a bit after ody released and then sortie was not going to be alliance content.

You all are acting like all content is either party or alliance. They've had scaling content for a long time

I really hope this does give EP on par with Apex monsters, but maybe not Locus. I like the idea of farming something else and getting progress towards Master Levels without just having to mindlessly kill EP designed monsters. It would be a nice "kill time" kind of content where I can do a few hours here and there and upgrade JSE, while also getting a few points on a variety of jobs.

1000000% this.

The other thing that's nice about alliance content is that it's generally easier to include people who might be at a lower level of gear/skill, but still allow them to participate in a "real" endgame event and improve by doing the same fun thing the rest of the LS is doing. And hey, that helps them get leveled up in both gear and in familiarity with the new hotness, so those people CAN level their performance by participating in the big new event.

It sort of sucks that newer or improving players have a harder time being good contributors in something like Gaol or Sortie, where 6 slots only means way less wiggle room. I mean, yeah, you can tell those players to go mess with stuff like Ambu or Seg farming instead, but I much prefer the more inclusive approach of just letting LS groups carry some people and bring them along. It's an MMO, it's about participating in content with other people. So having large scale group events that can better accomodate a wider array of people is only a good thing to me.

Current meta isnt scaling. I covered this earlier though.


Current endgame content is built around having a strict six people. You cant do the content with less than six and obtain respectable results.

Can you do Sheol with 4? of course. Are you gonna get anywhere near a full clear with 4? No, not even close.
Can you do Gaol with 4? Of course. Are you gonna get any further than V5 with 4? Maybe if you're lucky, but thats a very tall order. I know unlocks are doable solo with trusts (and thats only because they removed the enmity lock on summoning trusts)
Can you do sortie with 4? Of course. But you're probably gonna wind up with 20k muffins per run.

Yeah. I agree with this. My earlier point was against allowing alliance and making it so difficult that now you need two 9-boss sortie static to get anything done.

If it's more like what you are saying, where some weaker players can actually be carried by stronger players, that would be super cool. Much more engaging for the community as well.

Additional Seal Battlefield Spoils Campaign

For the duration of the campaign, vanquishing specific monsters in the battlefields below will reward you with a variety of items, including materials needed to craft +2 empyrean equipment, Mog Bonanza kupons

Guys, it's the same exact text/announcement as it has always been. They're referring to Mog Bonanza Kupons like Kupon I-Seal and Kupon A-Lum. (For level 85/90 empy+1 papers and Loquacious Earring, etc).

Do we know what the reduced number is yet? I don't even remember the original number, so the sites may have already been updated.

Shami's Trove:

- 30 Kindred Crest for Phobos Orb.
- Sneeze on NM to kill it and get KI 'Shami's key' - 100% drop rate.
- Open one of the boxes beside Shami.

- Brown Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5997 Exemplar Points)

• Ordelle Bronzepiece

- Red Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5671 Exemplar Points)

• Tukuku Whiteshell

- Gold Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5286Exemplar Points)

• Ordelle Bronzepiece

- Brown Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5978 Exemplar Points)

• Ordelle Bronzepiece

- Red Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5102 Exemplar Points)

• Alexandrite

- Gold Chest:

• Lungo-Nanngo's Thesis (5204Exemplar Points)

• One byne bill

They didn't reduce the total number of WS points on anything, instead they increased the points from doing WS/SC's. Doing a L3 SC used to give 5, now it gives 11.

These are the updated values

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:WSNM

It used to be 1/2/3/5, now it's 5/7/9/11.

If you were going to fix chocobo racing and make it worth doing, how would you do it.

A whole zone was made and wasted on it.

They did it right in 14 but nobody plays it there either. There's no way to make it non niche content, but at the least can let us control the chocobo

Every month you do x amount of racing you get 18% native movement speed. Does not stack with gear.

I always thought that EXP/CP/EP bonus rings should be purchasable through that currency. Maybe unlock those purchasing options through winning a certain rank of race. This would require participation with those whole Chocobo system.

It's not a game changer that forces everyone to take the baby chocobo they care nothing about on walks ever day. But a nice incentive for someone looking for an excuse to enjoy the content.


Honestly, I think they did it poorly in FFXIV too. Doing content right in an MMO has more to do with the reward structure the the implicit gameplay loop. And FFXIV's reward structure for Chocobo racing has to compete with the reward structure for almost all other content.

Chocobucks -> any relevant item whatsoever would do it. They're as bad as Imperial Standing Accolade Besieged Accolades.
Raised chocobo capable of being faster than /mount speed would do it, but be a pain, and honestly not as good as the above option in this day and age of HP/SG warps. Still would be nice if they weren't literally "strictly slower or equal to", and maybe get the choco whistle changed to unlimited-use enchant?

But honestly, I think the answer to chocobo raising is the same as the answer to adventuring fellows: There's A Vorseal.

SE knows the content's dead, they made a vorseal to give the real sicko completionists incentives to care. If they want us to care more, introduce a Vorseals Everywhere system - by which I don't necessarily mean taking the existing ones outside Escha, but introducing new ones that give very small boosts for doing lots of distinct types of content. Like the Mog Garden Monster Rearing Mementoes! What if your chocobo's stats passed small bonuses along to yours, or whatever? Lots of options there.

Better rewards, especially with chocobucks, or tie it in with a good crafting item/ultimate weapon like in previous FFs I believe.

Every time you win a race, Naegling's attack bonus increases by 0.1%
Stacks infinitely

FYI the bolded Gil part is the only difference from the standard Odyssey Campaign. Kind of a good time to send parties into Sheol A and go Mimic box farming too if you want to make some extra cash.

The Great Odyssey Campaign

If only they would add something to spend gil on that's newer than 2018

the JP, segs and boxes were * 1.5 in the regular campaign

now theyre * 2

Eiryl: Theres been nothing to spend gil on in the last 8 years (tbh he's not wrong as the current meta of Gaol and Sortie have zero gil requirement, but still)

Also Eiryl: I've been really really busy selling gil during the login campaign


Fellas, is Eiryl lying for clout? Lets break this down logically: the people who wont spend $12 on ffxi's monthly sub are gonna log in for a two week free period and spend hundreds of dollars on gil for the two week free login? Maybe its possible some of these people are hanging around and subbing because they got a bonanza kupon for a mid weapon, but I cant imagine the number of people who will actually resume subbing to FFXI over a bonanza weapon would break triple digits.