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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-11 18:04:51
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »

All of these have a value but zero are 5m+ in value

A famous slightly altered quote, There's no such thing as bad gear, only bad prices of said gear.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-03-11 18:11:14
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »

All of these have a value but zero are 5m+ in value

A famous slightly altered quote, There's no such thing as bad gear, only bad prices of said gear.

OK so...I disagree but, these pieces are BiS for everything I listed. How do you put a value on the best piece you can use in a slot for a spell/JA/WS? I would argue that a piece of gear for 5m is a smash deal.

Sure, it's been (repeatedly) compared to Ody gear, how about we take a look at a different perspective?

5m is a hell of a lot cheaper than:
JSE+2 necks
Any REMA
All Su3+1 gear
Most Abjuration+1 gear
Anything you can "buy" from trove
Any Unity gear that requires Hides/Scales
Osash/epa ring
Tons of other crafted gear (Stikini, Moonlight stuff, etc)

So...yeah, I think it's pretty reasonable to get +3 AF gear, relative to what other endgame gear costs. Frankly, it's a pretty incredible deal.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-03-11 18:17:59
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Anyways, I literally ran the numbers showing that someone farming cards to upgrade their AF will have a net profit after selling the swarts.

Why shoud they have to sell their swarts to pay for upgrades to nearly decade old gear, instead of using them to upgrade weapons or fund more meaningful purchases? The gear shouldn't cost that much to upgrade in the first place.

Especially when we're talking about mostly super-situational stuff like Maletaru's overly bloated list. Certainly not gonna pick through all that item by item, but when I just glance through and see stuff like you saying it's really valuable and you're talking about THF Evisceration gear (zero of which is even BiS, for a niche WS), NIN Daken hands that nobody in their right mind should be using ever, BST AF body when the Relic body does the same thing better and cheaper... Yeah, great items dawg. You make your attempted point weaker by diluting your list with garbage.

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It's almost as if you don't read my posts.

Oh, that post where you say "I'm not against making it easier, but [list of reasons why any suggested change to make it easier is unacceptable to you]". Gotcha.

This is mostly outdated gear. It might become a lot more relevant if they bump it up to add augments or +4 versions or something. In that case, I think it would make sense to streamline the process of getting to the current level so maybe people can have a more enjoyable time participating in Limbus.

But nope, you're gonna have a reason to complain about every suggestion.

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Any REMA

Oh my gosh, one of RNG's three 18% movement speed options (4 if you count ring) costs a lot less than a REMA. That must make them a bargain, actually!
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-03-11 18:25:32
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Wow you guys are bored. Lots of patch stuff needing to be discussed.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-03-11 18:30:27
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Any REMA

Oh my gosh, one of RNG's three 18% movement speed options (4 if you count ring) costs a lot less than a REMA. That must make them a bargain, actually!

OK, if you don't think it's good then don't make it. Then you don't need to spend the 5m. If you think it's good, then you spend the 5m on it.

How are you gonna complain that this gear is ***and then in the same breath complain that it's too expensive? If it's not good there's a pretty simple solution: don't make the gear. If it's good, which I think in many cases it is, then it's worth the TINY investment in your character.

In the grand scheme of things, you'll be spending billions of gil on your character to get a job or two geared up. Spending 6m on a best-in-slot piece of gear is not something to get your panties in a twist about.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-03-11 18:44:54
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
OK, if you don't think it's good then don't make it. Then you don't need to spend the 5m. If you think it's good, then you spend the 5m on it.

I'm just making fun of you putting RNG feet on your long know-it-all list of SUPER VALUABLE ITEMS in your dismissive response ("what are you guys smoking?") to someone else who said AF3 is expensive relative to its value.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-11 20:31:58
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Why shoud they have to sell their swarts to pay for upgrades to nearly decade old gear, instead of using them to upgrade weapons or fund more meaningful purchases? The gear shouldn't cost that much to upgrade in the first place.
If its "nearly decades old gear" then it must be ***, so dont upgrade it.
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