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Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2978
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-02-07 12:00:49
pretty sure it's only a month, not permanent
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Bahamut.Senaki
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 153
By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-02-07 12:15:23
The 14 players aren't gonna party either, cause none of the veteran players are gonna invite them with base 119 gear. They are also not going to group up, so it will be just lots of people soloing with trusts for no real extra revenue and so no new devs or content either.
Ever hear of a 'returning player' or 'casual ls'?
Some people enjoying doing chill content for funz.
Edit: If any new people wanna do omen or dyna-d for funz (no gear requirement), you are always more than welcome to join the LS StruggleCuddles on Bahamut!
Bahamut.Academic
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 72
By Bahamut.Academic 2025-02-07 12:36:01
It's fine if people want to 6 box instead of help new people. But it does make you look a certain way if you say those people are going to clog up the content or something derogatory about them existing.
All the 6 boxers I know on Bahamut at least, are more than happy to drop what they are doing and alts to help players.
Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4570
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-02-07 13:41:41
Finally, an Exemplar Points campaign. Waited to grind out jobs for this reason. March is going to be an EXP fest.
Valefor.Philemon
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 478
By Valefor.Philemon 2025-02-07 13:46:18
I wish there were more camps, preferably ones that would be hard to solo bot.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4464
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-07 13:49:53
Finally, an Exemplar Points campaign. Waited to grind out jobs for this reason. March is going to be an EXP fest. I dont think he read the fine print ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fyi, before anyone spazzes out, Im taking “an EXP fest” to mean hes gonna dedicate significant time (2-3 hrs midweek, 6-8 over the weekend) to grinding EP that he normally wouldn't.
Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4570
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-02-07 13:52:44
I wish there were more camps, preferably ones that would be hard to solo bot.
Not a problem on a smaller server. Plenty of camps.
Bismarck.Nickeny
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2282
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-02-07 13:53:26
500k = spitting in the mouth of a dude dying of thirst.
they really hate us go hards. Us grindy boyz.
Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4570
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-02-07 13:57:32
500k = spitting in the mouth of a dude dying of thirst.
they really hate us go hards. Us grindy boyz.
Yeah, it's for people like me who saw the numbers to reach 50 and thought... no thanks. I'd rather live my life, lol.
Bahamut.Negan
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2297
By Bahamut.Negan 2025-02-07 14:14:26
All the 6 boxers I know on Bahamut at least, are more than happy to drop what they are doing and alts to help players. This is gonna get lost in the thread, but is 110% true.
By Pantafernando 2025-02-07 14:18:48
All the 6 boxers I know on Bahamut at least, are more than happy to drop what they are doing and alts to help players. This is gonna get lost in the thread, but is 110% true.
This is gonna get lost in the thread, but is 120% true.
Phoenix.Capuchin
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3692
By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-02-07 14:31:14
Zero 14 players will start 11 and stay more than a month or 2 anyway. It's a non-issue.
I also think that a one time $6 discount on monthly fees (and still needing to purchase the game client software at full price) isn't much of an incentive.
I'm in a Discord with several XIV players who've been dabbling with XI in recent months, and they're saying it was cheaper for them last year when the usual Discount Campaign was on. For US players, $20 off the client software during discount + full price monthly fees is more savings than full priced client software and a $6 fee discount for this deal.
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Bismarck.Nickeny
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2282
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-02-07 14:51:52
SE just has no soul. All they did was take the model they had before for the FF14 launch and push it again. I'm sure it's using the same API from before. The person who made it probably doesn't even work there anymore.
the 500k probably will work like EXP rings. copy paste...
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4464
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-07 14:59:32
the 500k probably will work like EXP rings. copy paste...
They should add weekly EP rings like they had the CP and XP rings:
7 charges
30 min recast
100% bonus
Max 50k per charge
Diddly squat for EP botters
But the huge blessing for the people who only get EP from events and a bit of grind
Bahamut.Senaki
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 153
By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-02-07 15:26:13
the 500k probably will work like EXP rings. copy paste...
They should add weekly EP rings like they had the CP and XP rings:
7 charges
30 min recast
100% bonus
Max 50k per charge
Diddly squat for EP botters
But the huge blessing for the people who only get EP from events and a bit of grind
I 100% support this.
I remember farming MLVLs in the Promy zones. Then Crawler's Nest [S]. Then they nuked that farm and I kinda lost interest when I saw the horrendously high number of points needed for MLVL 40-50.
Bismarck.Nickeny
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2282
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-02-07 15:32:23
word - just add a ring - once a week - and add a 25 to 50% boost campaign from vanabout
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Phoenix.Capuchin
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3692
By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-02-07 15:39:28
the 500k probably will work like EXP rings. copy paste...
They should add weekly EP rings like they had the CP and XP rings:
7 charges
30 min recast
100% bonus
Max 50k per charge
Diddly squat for EP botters
But the huge blessing for the people who only get EP from events and a bit of grind
^^ This right here.
Should also significantly increase EP from current endgame events: Odyssey (Sheol A-C), Sortie, new Limbus when that's released. That would also not really move the needle for botters (especially seeing as how it's inherently limited by the 30 or 60 min daily timers), but would further encourage average players to engage with those events by getting a minor additional benefit.
I know for me personally, I rarely do Sortie now but would be incentivized to do it more often if I could also get a chunk of ML out of it. Current state of not being able to get good EP from anything but Apex/Locus does not motivate me to grind away on those mobs (in addition to any dailies, Ambu, or whatever other endgame activities I do) - it just makes me ignore grinding MLs, and I play less FFXI as a result.
Phoenix.Iocus
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1823
By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-02-07 17:32:34
All the 6 boxers I know on Bahamut at least, are more than happy to drop what they are doing and alts to help players. This is gonna get lost in the thread, but is 110% true. Not going to lie, Bahamut sounds like a real good server or your guys are doing an excellent job with propaganda. Either way, well deserved.
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They made the +2 earring a 1 time clear of Aminon with no recycle, they don't even refresh for vana'bouts which is perfect hype/promotion time for good feels. You know SE isn't going to do anything good for exemplar points bonus if you've already put in the time and already despaired. This is for the new kids and casuals. You want those big MLs to play the game on easy mode, you have to go out of your way for them.
They are stretching this ***out as long as possible.
Edit: I tricked Negan into upvoting this with a late edit and am a bad person for it.
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By Pantafernando 2025-02-07 17:47:14
Bahamut sounds like a real good server
I think most servers aside Assura can become a good place, if you can find the right shell.
I tricked Negan into upvoting this with a late edit and am a bad person for it.
Well, you dont need much for that, just throw some mosquitoes then he will come and upvote
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Bahamut.Negan
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2297
By Bahamut.Negan 2025-02-07 18:17:38
just throw some mosquitoes then he will come and upvote or doggos!
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-07 18:36:55
I'm curious how the EP Campaign 500k bonus is being enforced? Is everyone going to get a timerless buff for the duration of the campaign, and when you've gotten an extra 500k, it deactivates? If you die, does the penalty you've taken get added back to the bonus? Genuinely don't get how it will be tracked. I guess it could literally just be an ROE that counts your bonus RP and then you complete it when you've hit 500k, but in that case, that's a quest and not really a "campaign" in the true sense of the word. Or maybe they buff everyone with an invisible "Trizek Ring"-like effect that wears off after +500k.
Obviously nobody except SE knows and it doesn't matter one way or the other, but just wondering. This is the first time they have implemented an exp bonus with a cap like this before?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-07 19:04:41
Itll just know. No different than rings.
you die, and lose points, tough ***, you don't get extra lol
And no, this is the first time they've capped a campaign.
Valefor.Philemon
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 478
By Valefor.Philemon 2025-02-07 19:13:07
Just sounds like an invisible ring buff that lasts for the duration of the campaign and wears off after you hit the limit.
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By Shiva.Myamoto 2025-02-07 19:53:50
Anyone who is surprised by the cap shouldn't be. SE is just making sure the players who bot for extended hours or even days on end aren't benefitting from this full time. They aren't oblivious to it, as such they are just limiting the reward.
It is however beneficial for getting a low level master job up to a moderate master level quite quickly in comparison. That's how I would use it anyhow.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-07 20:06:08
No ones surprised. It just rings a little hollow. Anyone who was already botting them wouldn't bot more or less due to gaining double.
Anyone already buying wouldn't buy more or less.
It may or may not encourage a handful of part time botters to go balls deep for 3 weeks, but come on. They know everyone is already botting their exemplar points.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4464
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-07 21:44:38
No one need to go “balls to the walls for 3 weeks” haiiiiya
A ahitty party that cant keep chain will still do 70k/hr
A good party without cor that can keep chain will do 140-170k/hr between 25-35
A good group will clear the 500k in 3 hrs, a bad group in 7
And that is a-ok because the bonus is for the people who get their EP from endgame and a little dabbling with Locus.
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Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 521
By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-02-09 00:28:35
It's definitely another instance of SE being completely out of touch. Players ask for bonus campaign and they slap a fat asterisk on it. I can't wait for all the other things players asked for in the poll to get implemented in an extreme half or even quarter measure, defeating the purpose.
By Moonlightagb 2025-02-09 01:35:10
In a perfect world, the 500k exemplar bonus should be tracked by the vanabout moogle where it would tell you how much you've earned and how much you are still able to obtain. It should also let you toggle it on or off so you're not forced to waste any bonus exemplar points on a job a don't want such as farming in Odyssey.
But in reality it's gonna just be a double exemplar campaign that'll just randomly end at some unknown point, unless you don't hit the cap.
By Lili 2025-02-09 05:48:19
As usual, everyone forgets that for every 14-hours-a-day player that lurks in here, there's a dozen of 6-8 hours a week players who does not bot EP overnight and doesn't have a static exp party to grind master levels (and doesn't write on FFXIAH).
For the last couple of years SE has been catering content to returners and middle-grounders, with the very sporadic pebble to nolifers*. Double EP up to 500k is huge for a 90-min-per-day player.
* I'm a nolifer, so I know.
Fenrir.Svens
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 136
By Fenrir.Svens 2025-02-09 11:38:35
It's definitely another instance of SE being completely out of touch. Players ask for bonus campaign and they slap a fat asterisk on it. I can't wait for all the other things players asked for in the poll to get implemented in an extreme half or even quarter measure, defeating the purpose.
Gallimaufry campaign will be double galli on all non NM sources, please look forward to it.
This thread is for discussion of recent news from the Dev Tracker - News thread. Keep it civil.
Original thread by Pantafernando archived here.
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