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Dev Tracker - Discussion
Any gear previews that let us know if SMN empy will have more +skill than Baayami +1, asking for a friend
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I'll never forget returning during this time and seeing a /yell for MNK MNK MNK MNK WHM for a delve and not knowing wtf was going on for that setup.
And the shouter was a MNK.
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Asura.Geriond said: » A good number of Abyssea NMs were not pickup friendly until much later when we had much better abyssea gear and multiple atmas, tons of temps, and better cruor buffs. Delve, Vagary, and higher tiers of Escha were similarly not pickup friendly at first. Content eventually becoming pickup friendly doesn't mean much. Nonsense. SE making content where completing it meant you became dramatically stronger very quickly in that content and exclusively in that content means quite a bit in the context of establishing designer intent about a timeline. Abyssea had all those atmas and temps and cruor buffs because you really were supposed to be able to solo/lowman it after a little start-up effort without necessarily becoming more powerful anywhere else. It was a good system they already understand and knew worked - and they used the same theory again in Escha/Reisen - but specifically decided not to use here.
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: » Starbucks said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » Starbucks said: » Asura.Geriond said: » many events in the past that were like that when they were released, such as Sky. "impossible" without a static (ls) The entirety of the games existence has hinged on finding and retaining competent Ok. I seriously need some clarification on this point. When was the newest gear in the game available via solo efforts within its 1st year of release?
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This entire conversation is exhausting. Bunch of crabs pulling each other down further and further into negativity.
I empathize, it hurts a bit to see things change in a way you’re not so crazy about. Comparing things now to the thrill you experienced during that first boat ride to Aht Urghan, that much sought-after NM drop, breaking through new content like delve, riding a changing “meta” with the job you love, makes these new things you don’t find so exciting hurt all the more. But, for gods sake, for your mental health, if you’re so beaten down by new content then perhaps it’s time for a break or time to quit. You’re clearly not getting any joy out of it.
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Not sure if that is aimed at me but I haven't played for years. The last time I paid for FFXI is at least 2 years ago and that was only for a month.
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Starbucks said: » Not sure if that is aimed at me but I haven't played for years. The last time I paid for FFXI is at least 2 years ago and that was only for a month. So you come on these forums for what satisfaction exactly?
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To address the thrill and excitement though... Abyssea was amazing and exciting, so was, Delve, Omen etc. at first. Maybe it is my/our age but I don't really think anyone had that same level of excitement when Odyssey was released like this. It was clearly going to be a grind fest and a 2nd job from day 1. Actually, Dynamis 2 wasn't really very exciting either.
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Was a little but everyone was mainly upset about the 1 day lockout and no ability to hold a KI in advance/npc that did and pre-gaol there just wasnt much worth rinning it for beyond the augment mats
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Starbucks said: » To check when they are going to add Empyrean upgrades. Didn't realize you needed to post here to check when things are going to be added. You can admit you miss the game despite all your negativity, this is a safe space. We're all addicts here.
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Bahamut.Spookyfish said: » Starbucks said: » To check when they are going to add Empyrean upgrades. Didn't realize you needed to post here to check when things are going to be added. You can admit you miss the game despite all your negativity, this is a safe space. We're all addicts here. Also, the question was why I come on the forums. I come here for that reason. I feel like Empyrean +3 armor would be like a closure. The game feels odd and incomplete without it.
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Everyone has a different opinion on when the game was at its best, when it was most enjoyable and that's fine. We've all had different experiences, for me the most enjoyable time linked directly to the people I played with.
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stuoobey said: » Everyone has a different opinion on when the game was at its best, when it was most enjoyable and that's fine. We've all had different experiences, for me the most enjoyable time linked directly to the people I played with. This, actual game mechanics wise I think the game is the best its ever been the slow combat just wasn't that enjoyable back then. Back then it was about the people you played with, helping them and them helping you just like one big family which the game is missing for the most part.
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stuoobey said: » Everyone has a different opinion on when the game was at its best, when it was most enjoyable and that's fine. We've all had different experiences, for me the most enjoyable time linked directly to the people I played with.
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I'm sure they will at some point; even Omen started off with only letting you hold 1 canteen, so Odyssey almost certainly will once they're done adding content to it. It's just happening slower both because of slower content updates in general and the larger number of content updates to Odysseym
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Starbucks said: » stuoobey said: » Everyone has a different opinion on when the game was at its best, when it was most enjoyable and that's fine. We've all had different experiences, for me the most enjoyable time linked directly to the people I played with. Currently, it's anything but simple. The lines would be in the thousands for weekends with groups stacking phones. Every day is the lesser evil. Asura penalty and not playing on asura and server transfer and etc
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Asura.Eiryl said: » Currently, it's anything but simple. The lines would be in the thousands for weekends with groups stacking phones. Every day is the lesser evil. Asura penalty and not playing on asura and server transfer and etc Even if the queue ended up that long people could always go back to doing runs during weekdays if they wanted to avoid congestion. We've been used to that from the start.
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It's the same thing as the traffic paradox.
More lanes makes more traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox
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Asura.Geriond said: » I'm sure they will at some point; even Omen started off with only letting you hold 1 canteen, so Odyssey almost certainly will once they're done adding content to it. It's just happening slower both because of slower content updates in general and the larger number of content updates to Odysseym
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Asura.Eiryl said: » It's the same thing as the traffic paradox. More lanes makes more traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox Nobody's arguing that weekends won't be heavily congested (on Asura). But players can still freely choose to avoid the congestion by running Odyssey on the same weekdays they've been running all this time. With the change they'd at least have a modicum of choice. The illusion of choice is not choice.
How about the people that can only play on the weekend, you took their "choice" away. (Yeah, they can still choose not to play, yes, you can in fact choose to starve to death, if you want, but it's not really a choice now is it)
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Aerix said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » It's the same thing as the traffic paradox. More lanes makes more traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox Nobody's arguing that weekends won't be heavily congested (on Asura). But players can still freely choose to avoid the congestion by running Odyssey on the same weekdays they've been running all this time. With the change they'd at least have a modicum of choice. I'm going to counter that with what's currently going on with Omen. Because they added new content via the entry queue for Omen, there is (on Asura) no time when I play where Omen isn't at least moderately congested. It's really annoying right now, because I'd like to get cards during campaign, but there's almost always at least a 5-10 page wait to get into omen right now, if I try at an actually busy time, it's 25-30. To the point that I just don't really do omen anymore at all.
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Everybody on Asura knows you have to finish your cards BEFORE the campaign starts, lest you endure the awful lines. Joking.
The bad wait times are expected, but they are also almost always the worst at key times, which are avoidable. To the point made, you can honestly just ignore card farming during campaign whenever it's peak times (early evenings, weekends) and you don't have more than a mild 15-20 minute wait at most at other times. Do something else (Odyssey line is quick, Ambu line is quick, also less people hogging up empyrean NMs in abyssea). You should use any congested periods of time in one area to take advantage of something else. And when the Omen lines go down, knock them out all at once.
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Asura.Eiryl said: » The illusion of choice is not choice. How about the people that can only play on the weekend, you took their "choice" away. (Yeah, they can still choose not to play, yes, you can in fact choose to starve to death, if you want, but it's not really a choice now is it) To begin with, the people who can only play on weekends aren't the type of players Odyssey has been aimed at. They wouldn't have made much progress to date. Withholding QoL for the majority of the playerbase just because of Asuran (weekend) players doesn't make much sense. Hopefully SE sees it the same way since they said during the AMA they would look into changing the KI system. Finally, the game doesn't just revolve around Asura even if certain updates make it seem that way. They were still meant to benefit all servers equally. Not to mention JP players have likely been asking for a change to the KI system as well, and they mainly congregate on other servers.
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Rips said: » I'll never forget returning during this time and seeing a /yell for MNK MNK MNK MNK WHM for a delve and not knowing wtf was going on for that setup. And the shouter was a MNK. Yeah those early days folks hadn't figured out much of the damage phases for the boss's and formless strikes let them bypass some of them. Little known fact at the time was that Requiscat did the same thing only it wasn't tied to a JA and auto-attacks. And the first "super broke delve weapon" came off of Tojil who was usually the first / easiest to kill.
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