Sylph.Cherche said: »
Also also not really, but okay.
It's everyone else's fault but her own. Obviously, because she is The Anointed One™
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That's not how she sees it. It's everyone else's fault but her own. Obviously, because she is The Anointed One™
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain. It is the biggest political con of our time. What's the point of spending all that money if it doesn't change things beyond the margin of error?
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Garuda.Chanti said: » Saevel, that was for KN who actually knows something about taxation and economics. There is no specified tax for this, so it's paid 100% by the General Fund. Ex-DNC aide hits back hard at Clinton, says her campaign ignored data on Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin
WaPo. And pretty hard hitting not to mention full of juicy tweets, none from our tweeter in chief.
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Garuda.Chanti said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Garuda.Chanti said: » Saevel, that was for KN who actually knows something about taxation and economics. There is no specified tax for this, so it's paid 100% by the General Fund. Or are you thinking that these other 148 countries are going to pay anywhere close to the lion's share of the funding goals that Obama pledged the US will do? Hell, China hasn't even paid their pledged amount of $3 billion they owe from last year. You honestly think they are going to pay that, and this year's, and next? Yeah, like NATO, this "treaty" was made with America paying for the world in mind.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Sylph.Cherche said: » Also also not really, but okay. It's everyone else's fault but her own. Obviously, because she is The Anointed One™ Doesn't mean she wasn't the better option. I completely expect the reality deniers to dismiss my source anyway, since it does come from a climate blog. But at least it outlines what was agreed to financially.
Something they think comes out of thin air.
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Sylph.Cherche said: » Doesn't mean she wasn't the better option. Dunno, a majority of the people who voted certainly thought she was.
Sylph.Cherche said: » Dunno, a majority of the people who voted certainly thought she was.
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Wasn't aware only a single state was blue.
Weird. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain. I'm glad you think I care about what other countries do. I prefer to live in a country where I'm not taxed into oblivion for minimal, ambiguous gains at the expense of the economy.
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Sylph.Cherche said: » Wasn't aware only a single state was blue. Weird. Should I get out the electoral results map again? 
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Still looks like more than one state, but okay.
Sylph.Cherche said: » Dunno, a majority of the people who voted certainly thought she was. /facepalm We've only been over this fifty times, but I'll say it again.... If we reran the election where the popular vote was the goal of the election, the totals would have been entirely different. It is 100% irrelevant to make comments about popular votes in a competition where it's not the core metric the candidates are shooting for. Btw, the Panthers had 121 more yards in Super Bowl 50, so they really won, not the Broncos who had more points.
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It does matter when people are, somehow, flabbergasted at the civil unrest.
And then proceed to inaccurately point out how civil their side was both times Obama won. Or are somehow confused at the concept that Trump, to many many people, is/was not the best candidate available by any stretch of the imagination.
Were there riots on the streets during the weeks after Obama was elected (well, other than Occupy Wall Street, but we can debate that being an Obama-made disaster if you would like) because he was elected?
Hell, there wasn't any busted windows, destroyed cars, or burned down buildings due to Obama being elected. Can't say that about Trump though.....
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Sylph.Cherche said: » Or are somehow confused at the concept that Trump, to many many people, is/was not the best candidate available by any stretch of the imagination. Trump was slightly better than Clinton. The election proved that.
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Probably because they were too busy making signs implying very strongly he should be lynched.
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Were there riots on the streets during the weeks after Obama was elected (well, other than Occupy Wall Street, but we can debate that being an Obama-made disaster if you would like) because he was elected? Hell, there wasn't any busted windows, destroyed cars, or burned down buildings due to Obama being elected. Can't say that about Trump though..... Sylph.Cherche said: » Wasn't aware only a single state was blue. Weird. Good ol Massachusetts, where every night I peer out my windows and pray my sjw liberal neighbors don't stumble across my twitter account.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Sylph.Cherche said: » Or are somehow confused at the concept that Trump, to many many people, is/was not the best candidate available by any stretch of the imagination. Trump was slightly better than Clinton. The election proved that. Unless you honestly believe winning an election means you were the right person for the job. Because, y'know, Hitler won an election. And even Holocaust stuff asside, he did a pretty terrible job. Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm glad you think I care about what other countries do. I prefer to live in a country where I'm not taxed into oblivion for minimal, ambiguous gains at the expense of the economy. We're now the country with its fingers in its ears going "la la la can't hear you". Not acknowledging that climate change is an issue and not wanting to actually DO anything about it are functionally the same so it doesn't really matter what people "believe" anymore. And we just sent a message to the world that the U.S. can't be trusted enough to get its ***together to help tackle a global problem. The best person for the job of President is probably someone in the middle of nowhere that nobody has ever heard of and who has no intention of ever getting into politics.
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm glad you think I care about what other countries do. I prefer to live in a country where I'm not taxed into oblivion for minimal, ambiguous gains at the expense of the economy. We're now the country with its fingers in its ears going "la la la can't hear you". Not acknowledging that climate change is an issue and not wanting to actually DO anything about it are functionally the same so it doesn't really matter what people "believe" anymore. And we just sent a message to the world that the U.S. can't be trusted enough to get its ***together to help tackle a global problem. Here's where you're missing the point on this. There's no guarantee that my taxpayer money would actually fix anything. The climate accords can't guarantee to fix a single thing you say is a problem. When your feel-good, non-binding measures start hitting me in my wallet, then screw that noise.
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That's an infantile way to look at this. You don't mind massive defense spending, the scale of which dwarfs anything associated with this agreement. Does it guarantee the safety of you or the people you know?
Sure didn't stop 9/11 or prevent soldiers from being sent to die in a war over a lie.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » That's an infantile way to look at this. You don't mind massive defense spending, the scale of which dwarfs anything associated with this agreement. Does it guarantee the safety of you or the people you know? I'm an opponent of bloat and waste in any form when it comes to government spending. However, that being said.... *Looks at the number of recent, foreign attacks on U.S. soil* I can't say that I'm wholly unsatisfied.
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » That's an infantile way to look at this. You don't mind massive defense spending, the scale of which dwarfs anything associated with this agreement. Does it guarantee the safety of you or the people you know?
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