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Random Politics & Religion #20
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:10:46
It's still under investigation. Why would they? There's no justification for an investigation. Nothing more than baseless accusations.
Trump's at least got Obama's FISA warrants to back him up.
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:11:11
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?
I would but the info I had got hacked by some Russian spy...
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:12:10
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:14:45
It's still under investigation. Why would they? There's no justification for an investigation. Nothing more than baseless accusations.
Well, lets send a notice to the GOP and the FBI, there is no justification for their investigations, because nausi says so.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 19:31:14
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?
For starters, we have what they've already said. Not to mention all the other people from other government positions who have said that there is nothing there. But hey, there's always that pipe dream.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:35:58
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share?
For starters, we have what they've already said. Not to mention all the other people from other government positions who have said that there is nothing there. But hey, there's always that pipe dream. but but muh russian hacking!
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:36:14
Anything a little more recent Rav? I mean, that article was well before the revelations that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia during the entire election season. Also, don't forget to mention that all of those "other people" that have piped up have nothing to do with the investigations and don't receive any briefings/updates.
Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 19:39:35
Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.
I have the insight of previous investigations yielding nothing of significance, which you might recognize as the very thing hindering your argument.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:42:42
Which investigations are you referring to? Congress just started investigating last month.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:45:03
Anything a little more recent Rav? I mean, that article was well before the revelations that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia during the entire election season. Also, don't forget to mention that all of those "other people" that have piped up have nothing to do with the investigations and don't receive any briefings/updates.
Or, you could just answer Pleebo honestly, and say no, you have no insight.
One could say this conspiracy theory is "precious" to vic...
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:46:50
I'm sure you already figured this out Rav, but you are on your own here, nausi's got nothing.
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:54:38
If the USA changed their systems to
-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education
But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them
Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?
No such thing as free...
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 19:54:42
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.
None.
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:56:09
Free college isn't going to make Timmy better in math or science either...
For education it's partly the student and partly the teacher that does more then baby sit your bratty kids !
By fonewear 2017-03-15 19:56:35
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.
None.
You better keep your voice down the Russians monitor this website...
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 19:58:42
Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.
None.
Just like there is no evidence that Obama wiretapped Trump, and yet you continue to lie about it.
By fonewear 2017-03-15 20:00:28
If the USA changed their systems to
-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education
But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them
Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?
No such thing as free... You know what I meant. Would you support that or be against it you think? Sounds pretty exciting to have all of your people getting access to healthcare and education right?
No I don't support high taxes so I can pay for your kids education or healthcare...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:01:20
So, if Trump tweets that he likes Ford F-150, does that mean that he hates all other vehicles, or just this specific make? What about year, does he mean the most current year (2017), or all years?
What about GM? Does that mean that he hates GM? Toyota? Wait, he just declared war on Japan! And Germany! And Britain! All in one tweet!
If you think that's being overly factitious, that's how you are treating the whole situation now.
So, putting forward hypotheticals to somehow try to deflect from the real tweets that Trump put out lying about Obama and wiretapping that has his own party calling for retractions? Thats gonna work. You mean where the FBI director is going to go on public record to clarify it?
If it happened, great, Trump was right, Obama should be jailed (but won't), riots will happen at colleges, dogs and cats will love each other, the world turns.
If it didn't happened, great, Trump was wrong, Obama doesn't get punished, riots will happen at colleges, dogs and cats will love each other, the world turns.
Saying that it's a lie when you know just as little about it as everyone else not only shows your disdain for getting down to the bottom of this whole mess, but also your blind hatred for anything/everything outside your tiny little bubble.
Great, we get it, you hate the world, fine.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 20:02:16
Trump calls his second travel ban death "unprecedented." Maybe he forgot it happened last month?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:02:21
There is a rule, specifically for Politics and Religion, that you can attack the topic, not the user.
This rule only applies to conservative posts showing incorrect non-approved ideas. The Progressive posters are allowed to insult people directly as long as they are supporting the correct ideas. By attacking you personally they are furthering the cause. Used to.
We actually have a conservative moderator, and I'm not going to rat out Damashi for it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:03:14
Do you have some insight into the multiple investigations you'd like to share? Ask Vic, he is the one saying what is a lie and what he wants to believe in.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:05:28
If the USA changed their systems to
-free public basic hospitals and walk in clinics run by the government to insure everyone had access to healthcare, but employers would be responsible for drug plans and dental plans
-free public basic elementary schools, high schools and colleges so everyone had access to education
But also
-private hospitals in the cities so anyone who wanted faster/ higher quality care could get it
-private elementary schools/high schools/universities in the cities so anyone who wanted a higher quality education cans could afford it, could go to them
Would you ffxiah posters desire or support a system like this?
No such thing as free... You know what I meant. Would you support that or be against it you think? Sounds pretty exciting to have all of your people getting access to healthcare and education right? That liberal line is old. Get a new one.
"Why won't somebody think of the children!"
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 20:05:29
If America didn't have 300 million people I'm sure we could have government pay for more things but they already try to do too much as it is...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 20:09:36
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »Daily reminder vic, there is no evidence that Trump coluded with the russians to steal the election.
None.
Just like there is no evidence that Obama wiretapped Trump, and yet you continue to lie about it. "Obama" and "wire tapped" were not to be taken literally though, it's like when you remember something years ago completely wrong. All you remember is how you felt at the time.
So Obama could have said "I am cringing while waiting trump on tv" in November and that was enough to incite the feelings of being wiretapped.
Wiretapping the mind, so to speak. Actually, that is Pleebo and Vic's complete argument. They are defending that Obama himself never ordered or even committed the wiretap to Trump.
While everyone else knows what Trump means, they take him at the most literal sense so they can feel "morally superior"
If you want to study classic cases of Dunning-Kruger, I present to you Exhibit A and Exhibit B. They can fight over who's on top though.
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