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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:04:18
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The one that was posted earlier? The time of day isn't even on that.

Do you need a Timestamp to look at both of them throughout and see which one had the highest peak turnout?
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:05:11
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According to my timestamp no one gives a *** !
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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:06:18
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Why not, it worked for Ernest. I mean, he did lie to the American people about several facts (Benghazi's video, IRS not targeting conservative PACs, Obama not knowing about Clinton's email server, CIA targeting media outlets, just to name a few). He got a pass for all that. So, why not Trump's guy?

Ah, I see. So if one person kills another and gets away with it, it is ok for you to kill a person? That is the most childish philosophy I have heard.


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There was less criticism from the media about Obama than there is about Trump today.

As stated before, Obama's wrong doing was a lot less subtle then Trumps wrong doing. It is a lot easier to notice a thief with a gun then the thief behind the register.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-23 10:07:55
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eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The one that was posted earlier? The time of day isn't even on that.

Do you need a Timestamp to look at both of them throughout and see which one had the highest peak turnout?
You obviously missed the whole point.

Nobody (other than the Trump administration) is disputing the turnout. What we are disputing is the honesty of the media of reporting such turnout.

They didn't need to use those pictures at all. Using the one made before peak time and comparing it to the one during peak time for Obama is what is dishonest, and outright facts I don't like.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-23 10:10:35
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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a man with an IQ higher then yours
What is my IQ? What is Trump's?

If you can't answer you should apologize.
His is north of 130, yours is around 110 maybe 120 if we push it.
And by tossing out those numbers you prove you know nothing about IQ tests.

Which scale? 140 on the Wexler Bellevue = 160 on the Stanford Binet = 2%.

And remember, President Trump never released his college transcripts either, something he demanded President Obama should do.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2017-01-23 10:11:04
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You're not gonna get hundreds of thousands of people in 30 minutes
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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:11:27
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The one that was posted earlier? The time of day isn't even on that.

Do you need a Timestamp to look at both of them throughout and see which one had the highest peak turnout?
You obviously missed the whole point.

Nobody (other than the Trump administration) is disputing the turnout. What we are disputing is the honesty of the media of reporting such turnout.

They didn't need to use those pictures at all. Using the one made before peak time and comparing it to the one during peak time for Obama is what is dishonest, and outright facts I don't like.


So if I have 8 Skittles and you have 14 skittles to begin with. I eat two of them and tweet a picture to FFXIAH.com showing that I have 6 skittles and you have 14 and I say "KN got more skittle in his bag then me, how unfair!" Am I really lying? Is that really dishonest?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-01-23 10:13:11
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My iq is only for my psychiatrist to know, he simply demonstrated he makes things up.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-23 10:16:34
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eliroo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Why not, it worked for Ernest. I mean, he did lie to the American people about several facts (Benghazi's video, IRS not targeting conservative PACs, Obama not knowing about Clinton's email server, CIA targeting media outlets, just to name a few). He got a pass for all that. So, why not Trump's guy?

Ah, I see. So if one person kills another and gets away with it, it is ok for you to kill a person? That is the most childish philosophy I have heard.
How come you never criticized Obama's press secretary before? How come this is now an issue when this issue has been occurring for the past 8+ years?

To use your analogy, you are now bitching about me killing a person even though it was socially acceptable before now.

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As stated before, Obama's wrong doing was a lot less subtle then Trumps wrong doing. It is a lot easier to notice a thief with a gun then the thief behind the register.
It doesn't matter, wrongdoing is still needed to be called out, and that is the media's only job when it comes to government reporting other than reporting news.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-23 10:18:21
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eliroo said: »
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eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The one that was posted earlier? The time of day isn't even on that.

Do you need a Timestamp to look at both of them throughout and see which one had the highest peak turnout?
You obviously missed the whole point.

Nobody (other than the Trump administration) is disputing the turnout. What we are disputing is the honesty of the media of reporting such turnout.

They didn't need to use those pictures at all. Using the one made before peak time and comparing it to the one during peak time for Obama is what is dishonest, and outright facts I don't like.


So if I have 8 Skittles and you have 14 skittles to begin with. I eat two of them and tweet a picture to FFXIAH.com showing that I have 6 skittles and you have 14 and I say "KN got more skittle in his bag then me, how unfair!" Am I really lying? Is that really dishonest?
Why not take that argument against MSM then? They were the one who did the dishonest reporting.
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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:21:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
How come you never criticized Obama's press secretary before? How come this is now an issue when this issue has been occurring for the past 8+ years?

To use your analogy, you are now bitching about me killing a person even though it was socially acceptable before now.

Honest answer, I didn't care as much when all that happened nor was I posting on here. If it was current, then I'd easily agree with you.

The answer is that it isn't acceptable either way, but humans can err.


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It doesn't matter, wrongdoing is still needed to be called out, and that is the media's only job when it comes to government reporting other than reporting news.

What wrongdoing was done though?
 
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:23:23
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i think trump's biggest achievement will be creating more "hotels" (the new projects) around new army bases across america, which can help citizens achieve better milestones in jobs and opportunities across the country.

i have faith in his effort- he just needs to grow thicker skin and so does everyone else.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-23 10:32:51
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The only people making a big deal out of this are Trump and his supporters. Every one is having fun at their expense.

Fact is, it was not the largest inaugural audience ever, period. Like the administration stated.

Now we got Olympic level mental gymnasts all over the Internet trying to explain how photo comparisons are unfair or that one is of peak time and the other wasn't because emperor Trump said he felt that he saw millions when speaking at the CIA the next day.

Maybe if you guys stopped trying so hard to be contrarian on everything...but don't cause it's hilarious.

We all get it Trump believes the bestest and greatest of all time and we need to accept he is president. Doesn't change the fact he's a thin skinned narcissist that throws a tantrum when the aforementioned sentiment is proven factually wrong.

So forgive us while we laugh about it and at anyone who actually try's to champion Alternative Facts.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-23 10:34:44
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eliroo said: »
Honest answer, I didn't care as much when all that happened nor was I posting on here. If it was current, then I'd easily agree with you.
Honest response: Then wait until there's a record. There will be, but you can't just start on the guy's first day of the job pretty much attacking him because you don't like his boss. Not unless you were doing the same thing to the old guy.

It makes you very hypocritical.
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i think trump's biggest achievement will be creating more "hotels" (the new projects) around new army bases across america, which can help citizens achieve better milestones in jobs and opportunities across the country.

i have faith in his effort- he just needs to grow thicker skin and so does everyone else.
I don't think Trump is going to build more hotels when just by having his name on those hotels are considered subject to frivolous lawsuits (like the one made by the "Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington" lawsuit, who comes from a group that never cared about governmental responsibility and ethics up until Trump was elected).
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:36:53
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
The only people making a big deal out of this are Trump and his supporters. Every one is having fun at their expense.

Fact is, it was not the largest inaugural audience ever, period. Like the administration stated.

Now we got Olympic level mental gymnasts all over the Internet trying to explain how photo comparisons are unfair or that one is of peak time and the other wasn't because emperor Trump said he felt that he saw millions when speaking at the CIA the next day.

Maybe if you guys stopped trying so hard to be contrarian on everything...but don't cause it's hilarious.

We all get it Trump believes the bestest and greatest of all time and we need to accept he is president. Doesn't change the fact he's a thin skinned narcissist that throws a tantrum when the aforementioned sentiment is proven factually wrong.

So forgive us while we laugh about it and at anyone who actually try's to champion Alternative Facts.

Sounds like the only one here that can't accept Trump is you...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-23 10:38:03
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So if I have 8 Skittles and you have 14 skittles to begin with. I eat two of them and tweet a picture to FFXIAH.com showing that I have 6 skittles and you have 14 and I say "KN got more skittle in his bag then me, how unfair!" Am I really lying? Is that really dishonest?

Yes, yes it is, depending on your intentions. I know I have a different perspective on such things given my career path, but that is absolutely dishonest and here's why. There's a huge disconnect for people between what is being shown, what is being said, and how it is being interpreted. You may say "KN got more Skittles", but what people see is 6 vs. 14 because you're pairing a generalized statement (greater than, less than) with a picture that represents an actual number. If this were a newsworthy event, for anyone subsequently reporting the story you would see numbers like 6 and 14 showing up in the headlines, even though your statement did not indicate a number.

For an example that doesn't involve numbers: If I'm riding a bike, not paying attention, and I run into a parked car at low speed and get a little scraped up as a result, I can tweet a picture with me wrapped head to toe in bandages and say, "I was involved in a biking accident earlier today that involved a collision between myself and a motor vehicle." Am I lying with my words? No. Am I deliberately misleading, which is basically just another form of lying? Yes.
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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:39:05
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It makes you very hypocritical.

The old guy isn't president right now, why would I be critical on him. What power can he do. Why should I waste breath criticizing someone who can't make a mistake anymore when we need to be critical on the one who controls are future.

It isn't hypocritical, it is actually moronic to throw stones in the past when you have a boulder rolling towards you now.

You are doing mental gymnastics KN, I thought you were smarter then this. You of all people should be able to realize how terrible of a start this is for the Trump administration.
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:39:26
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Lying is ok when you are President it's a long held tradition. And bitching about it won't make it stop.
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:40:42
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I'm sure even Abe Lincoln lied to his wife when he said "no that dress doesn't make you look fat"
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:43:16
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eliroo said: »
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It makes you very hypocritical.

The old guy isn't president right now, why would I be critical on him. What power can he do. Why should I waste breath criticizing someone who can't make a mistake anymore when we need to be critical on the one who controls are future.

It isn't hypocritical, it is actually moronic to throw stones in the past when you have a boulder rolling towards you now.

You are doing mental gymnastics KN, I thought you were smarter then this. You of all people should be able to realize how terrible of a start this is for the Trump administration.

You do realize he has only been President for 3 days and you are already losing your mind...
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By eliroo 2017-01-23 10:44:08
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
For an example that doesn't involve numbers: If I'm riding a bike, not paying attention, and I run into a parked car at low speed and get a little scraped up as a result, I can tweet a picture with me wrapped head to toe in bandages and say, "I was involved in a biking accident earlier today that involved a collision between myself and a motor vehicle." Am I lying with my words? No. Am I deliberately misleading, which is basically just another form of lying? Yes.

This is a difference between your example, my example and the media is actually doing. At no point in time did Trump's inauguration ever have a bigger turnout then Obama's and the statement was simply to pictures mentioning how low of a turnout there was at Trump's inauguration. This was factually true and there was no stretching the truth. The pictures weren't fabricated and they were both from the incidents at hand. In your example you add deceit to the picture which substantially changes the effect perceived. In this Trump Vs. Obama thing the effect perceived is the same as what happened.
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:44:28
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-23 10:46:55
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fonewear said: »
Sounds like the only one here that can't accept Trump is you...
I'm also a thin skinned narcissist who is not above hypocrisy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-23 10:47:51
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He can afford to try! I want to see pics, KN!
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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:47:51
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For no apparent reason Ivanka

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By fonewear 2017-01-23 10:48:30
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fonewear said: »
Sounds like the only one here that can't accept Trump is you...
I'm also a thin skinned narcissist who is not above hypocrisy.

Well have you considered running for office ?
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