Random Politics & Religion #17

Now KN is lying about what is going on in Syria and the role the US is playing over there. Ok sure. Probably should move on from that topic KN. Ceasefire lasted a couple of hours btw.

Ok so you want the US to share how they can be hacked and how they get intel? Sounds like a great plan.

I'm assuming you are talking about the Russia ceasefire that the US was not part of the talks.

I hate to break it to you, but it happened.

Please try to keep up with foreign affairs for now on, ok? I know you don't care, you are still in mourning for Clinton's assrape of an election, but if you are going to call somebody a liar, make sure they are truly lying and you aren't making accusations out of your *** (like usual), k buddy?

Broken in hours. Stop lying.

Paula White is a trinity denying heretic. She rejects the Council of Nicaea’s creed that every Christian accepts. To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself. You can see Paula White do this in the video above. And Paula White is going to pray at the inauguration.

Why does it matter? I don’t think anyone thinks Trump takes his faith serious (if at all), but Paula White claims to do so and claims to be a Christian. The President of the United States putting a heretic on stage who claims to believe in Jesus, but does not really believe in Jesus, risks leading others astray. Christians have an obligation to speak in defense of their faith. Trump letting this heretic pray in Jesus’s name should offend every Bible believing Christian.

I’d rather a Hindu pray on Inauguration Day and not risk the souls of men, than one whose heresy lures in souls with promises of comfort only to damn them in eternity. At least no one would mistake a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist with being a representative of Christ’s kingdom.

Roman Emperor Constantine called the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325 to settle a growing controversy in the Christian church. Was Christ part of the God-head or was he the first fruit of creation? The Council of Nicaea, in June of AD 325, settled the issue.

Jesus Christ is the second person in the trinity, the only begotten son of God. The phrase “not an iota of difference” comes from this debate. It centered around the Greek word homoousios, meaning “of same substance,” versus the word homoiousios, meaning “of similar substance.”

The heretic Arius, who had taught Christians a song with the line “there was a time the son was not,” argued that Jesus Christ was the first born of creation, but was not the eternal, begotten son of God. He argued that Christ was made of a similar substance, but was not God. Arius’s view was rejected at Nicaea. One of the bishops of the church rebuking the Arian heresy was a guy we now call Santa Claus, St. Nicholas of Myra.

Since AD 325, it has been settled in the orthodoxy of the Christian church of every single Christian denomination that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God. Re-iterated in the First Council of Constantinople in AD 381, the Nicene Creed as we know it today contains these line:

I believe in one God the Father Almighty,
Maker of heaven and earth,
And of all things visible and invisible:
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God,
Begotten of his Father before all worlds,
God of God, Light of Light,
Very God of very God,
Begotten, not made,
Being of one substance with the Father,
By whom all things were made;

This is literally 1,691 year old settled orthodoxy of every Christian denomination. Presbyterians, Catholics, Orthodox, Methodists, Baptists, Anglicans, and other Christian denominations, along with a few Episcopalian churches all say this creed. It, along with the Apostles Creed, are the two major, foundational creeds in Christendom.

So it should be a pretty damn big deal that Donald Trump is inviting to pray at the inaugural an actual, factual heretic who rejects the Nicene Creed.

Paula White, a prosperity gospel charlatan and Trump’s “spiritual advisor,” is going to pray. In the video above you can see White, in her own words, rejecting the trinity. She claims Jesus Christ is the first born of creation and not the only begotten son of God.

That is well settled and agreed upon heresy by every single Christian denomination. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. To utter those words is to not be a Christian. It is that simple.

Barack Obama was the first President to mention atheists in his inaugural address and Donald Trump will now go a step beyond that. He is inviting an actual trinity-denying heretic to pray at his inauguration.

To reject the orthodoxy of the Nicene Creed is to reject Christianity itself.

No KN. There is shooting everywhere. Know why? Because the rebel groups didn't sign a ceasefire, so why stop shooting? There are skirmishes going on all over the country, the rebels don't care about Putins PR stunt. Better luck next time. This isn't hard at all.

Call it a pop-up alliance. After spending much of this year berating each other after Turkey shot down a Russian jet over the Syrian-Turkish border, the two governments are suddenly the "honest brokers" of a ceasefire in Syria -- one that is designed to lead to political negotiations. The United States, which has long championed the stuttering diplomatic process on resolving the Syrian conflict, is nowhere to be seen.

The ceasefire -- negotiated between Russia, Turkey and the Syrian government as well as Iran and Syrian rebel groups supported by Turkey -- explicitly excludes factions deemed by the United Nations Security Council as "terrorists." This rules out the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the former al Qaeda affiliate in Syria that used to be known as Jabhat al-Nusra.

Sorry. But, no. Christianity is about acceptance and forgiveness. Rejecting something someone came up with to make sure everyone was in the cool kids club doesn't make you a heretic. It also doesn't make you a non Christian.

I guess I don't see how Obama factors into the whole thing. Unless the entire article was written just to throw mud.

Sorry. But, no. Christianity is about acceptance and forgiveness. Rejecting something someone came up with to make sure everyone was in the cool kids club doesn't make you a heretic. It also doesn't make you a non Christian.

I guess I don't see how Obama factors into the whole thing. Unless the entire article was written just to throw mud.

No, Chanti is being snarky. She is still in mourning for the loss of her preferred candidate.

Barack Obama was the first President to mention atheists in his inaugural address and Donald Trump will now go a step beyond that. He is inviting an actual trinity-denying heretic to pray at his inauguration.

Nope, Its right there in the article.
And I always knew that Bernie had no chance at all.

P. S. I think it far worse that Paula White is a prosperity gospel preacher than a believer in the Arian heresy.

P. P. S. While I agree with you Crim about what Christianity is supposed to be, for far to many Christians its all about being judgmental. But most American Christians are heretics. (I could go on at great length about heresies, you have been warned.)

You? Not snarky? ...

Well I wasn't being snarky right then.

I did snark a bit in my next post. I would hate to disapoint you after all.

Sorry Crim but accepting the Nicean trinity is central to Christianity. You know, the Father, Son, and holy Spirit bit. Its why a LOT of Christians think the Mormons aren't Christian.

No, it's not necessarily central to anything. It's a compromise in beliefs that makes absolutely zero sense because anyone who could have set the record straight had already been dead for centuries. People can believe whatever they want, but to say that the only true Christians are the ones who accept the creed simply doesn't compute.