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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 12:46:48
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Also, man. The Richie Riches living in Connecticut!
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 12:46:55
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PAAAAAAGED.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 12:48:11
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Ramyrez said: »
Also, man. The Richie Riches living in Connecticut!
Probably cause of the close proximity to NYC.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-07 12:53:21
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
alternate timeline Jesus

You should be working in television. This right here as a premise would make a great series. Could even get a spinoff "Quantum Jesus".
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-12-07 13:01:55
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

He kills himself to save the markets?
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By Asura.Dameshi 2016-12-07 13:07:10
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

He kills himself to save the markets?
Jesus saves... and retires early with his sound financial decisions.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 13:11:11
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

He kills himself to save the markets?
Jesus saves... and retires early with his sound financial decisions.
Jesus is one of 13 shareholders in a restaurant chain called The Last Supper. One of the shareholders is thinking about whistleblowing the group for shady practices to the Roman Empire feds though.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 13:17:09
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Time names Trump "Person of the Year"
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By eliroo 2016-12-07 13:19:30
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

Still sounds like a more reasonable religion then Scientology.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-07 13:21:40
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eliroo said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

Still sounds like a more reasonable religion then Scientology.
I will take this reply as wanting to have Tom Cruise play the alternate Jesus part.
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By eliroo 2016-12-07 13:23:57
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I would have been shocked if they didn't name him person of the year.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 13:25:06
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eliroo said: »

I would have been shocked if they didn't name him person of the year.
Actually, reading this article, it's more about "the glory of Obama" and how "Trump is the new Hitler" than it is about writing a "Person of the Year" article.
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By eliroo 2016-12-07 13:28:29
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »

I would have been shocked if they didn't name him person of the year.
Actually, reading this article, it's more about "the glory of Obama" and how "Trump is the new Hitler" than it is about writing a "Person of the Year" article.

Person of the year was never about the best person though, just about the most influential. The article is rather lengthy but I can tell by the first two paragraphs they want to separate him from the general population.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 13:29:19
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"Person of the Year" doesn't necessarily mean "Good Person of the Year."

*shrug*

Here's the thing. You can admit that Trump won by appealing to the "ignored" of the country, but that's still roughly 50% of the population, and you still have a pissed off 50% of the population.

Right or wrong or merely different viewpoints all don't really matter, because the division is real regardless and DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together on terms that are good for everyone involved.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-07 13:30:15
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It's strange though cause Modi was the one who got the most votes as person of the year, followed by Trump, Assange, Obama and Sanders iir the order correctly.
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By eliroo 2016-12-07 13:32:00
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Ramyrez said: »
Right or wrong or merely different viewpoints all don't really matter, because the division is real regardless and DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together on terms that are good for everyone involved.


I agree with this point, but there were very few candidates that fit this bill and none of them were in the primary election.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 13:33:10
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eliroo said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Right or wrong or merely different viewpoints all don't really matter, because the division is real regardless and DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together on terms that are good for everyone involved.


I agree with this point, but there were very few candidates that fit this bill and none of them were in the primary election.

I think Hillary was closer to the mark than Trump, but they were both inappropriate candidates.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 13:33:49
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I now wanna write a story about an alternate timeline Jesus who is a Wall Street shark.

He kills himself to save the markets?

In a shocking twist Jesus commits suicide, goes to hell.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-12-07 13:34:37
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Ramyrez said: »
DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together

sure he is....so long as holding pens count as togetherness!
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 13:36:28
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ramyrez said: »
DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together

sure he is....so long as holding pens count as togetherness!

Well I mean.

Maybe he can bring people together in the North Korea sense of united misery.

I guess his voters hadn't considered that.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 13:53:36
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Ramyrez said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ramyrez said: »
DJT is NOT the kind of person to bring people together

sure he is....so long as holding pens count as togetherness!

Well I mean.

Maybe he can bring people together in the North Korea sense of united misery.

I guess his voters hadn't considered that.
We already had 8 years of NK-sense of misery.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 14:06:45
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
We already had 8 years of NK-sense of misery.

Enough of this already man, seriously.

I don't really know what your problem with Obama is but you take every chance you can to vilify a man who has been, by all accounts, one of the more morally upstanding presidents we've had. Like his policies or not, that's a different issue entirely.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-07 14:08:43
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Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
We already had 8 years of NK-sense of misery.

Enough of this already man, seriously.

I don't really know what your problem with Obama is but you take every chance you can to vilify a man who has been, by all accounts, one of the more morally upstanding presidents we've had. Like his policies or not, that's a different issue entirely.
Actually, I didn't blame him at all.

Sure, he directed such misery, I mean, he is the president and supposed to lead this nation.

Can I blame everything on him? Not really. But the buck stops at the top, remember?

He has never lead this nation, period. It's always somebody else's fault.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 14:12:56
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He has never lead this nation, period. It's always somebody else's fault.

Well, that's your opinion, and I'm going to call you on it and say it's one clouded by your dislike of his policies. He's been a tremendous figurehead for the nation, he's taken whatever action he can faced with obstruction from a petulant Congress, and he's handled the fallout of that pretty well too.

He's done everything he can to enact what he was elected and re-elected to do.

And never once in the past eight years have we as a nation suffered anything that could even remotely be compared to the Kim Cult State of Korea, even in the wildest dreams of Alex Jones.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2016-12-07 14:14:44
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Pope warns media over 'sin' of spreading facts I don't like, smearing politicians

By Philip Pullella | VATICAN CITY

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Media that focus on scandals and spread facts I don't like to smear politicians risk becoming like people who have a morbid fascination with excrement, Pope Francis said in an interview published on Wednesday.

Francis told the Belgian Catholic weekly "Tertio" that spreading disinformation was "probably the greatest damage that the media can do" and using communications for this rather than to educate the public amounted to a sin.

Using precise psychological terms, he said scandal-mongering media risked falling prey to coprophilia, or arousal from excrement, and consumers of these media risked coprophagia, or eating excrement.

The Argentine-born pontiff excused himself for using such terms in order to get his point across while answering a question about the correct use of the media.

"I think the media have to be very clear, very transparent, and not fall into - no offence intended - the sickness of coprophilia, that is, always wanting to cover scandals, covering nasty things, even if they are true," he said.

"And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, a lot of damage can be done."

That section of the interview, all of which was distributed to reporters in an Italian translation of the interview in the pope's native Spanish, contained some of the most blunt language the pontiff has ever used about the media.

He also spoke of the danger of using the media to slander political rivals.

"The means of communication have their own temptations, they can be tempted by slander, and therefore used to slander people, to smear them, this above all in the world of politics," he said. "They can be used as means of defamation..."

"No-one has a right to do this. It is a sin and it is hurtful," he said.

He described disinformation as the greatest harm the media can do because "it directs opinion in only one direction and omits the other part of the truth," he said.

The pope's comments on disinformation followed widespread debate in the United States over whether facts I don't like on the internet might have swayed voters toward Republican candidate Donald Trump.

(Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Tom Heneghan)
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 14:15:31
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Pope warns media over 'sin' of spreading facts I don't like, smearing politicians

Well that seems a little hypocritical for his organization's history, if not his personal actions.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2016-12-07 14:16:30
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Ramyrez said: »
Also, man. The Richie Riches living in Connecticut!

And nobody is surprised by West Virginia, Kentucky, and Mississippi.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-07 14:16:58
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Ramyrez said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Pope warns media over 'sin' of spreading facts I don't like, smearing politicians

Well that seems a little hypocritical for his organization's history, if not his personal actions.

That's not to say he's wrong.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-07 14:25:28
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Pennsylvania court has denied Stein and her computer experts access to voting machines on the grounds of a forensic investigation, however this doesn't mean the recount is canceled, it can still happen.

In Michigan: The recount was stopped by a state-level judge, the federal level judge set a hearing for Wednesday to decide the final fate of the recount in Michigan.

In Wisconsin, several reports state that the recount in Wisconsin is almost complete after Stein was denied a full hand recount.
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