Jack Of All Trades: A Guide To Red Mage

No, he was thinking about Adhemar. Its just typical Saevel. He comes try to be smart about something he didnt even check before posting, then explain some basic stuff like how occasionally attacks work with multi-attack even if none asked for it, then throw some made up terminology (there is no such thing like 100MA. Its simply + 1.0 avg attack per round. Also saying that is totally confusing. This wording is totally off and if you explained how oax works with MA why havent you explained qa, ta, da too when its basically the same with priority of qa>ta>da>oax.

You guys do realize that Store TP has diminishing returns like everything else in this game. Don't swing the pendulum to much in the other direction. WS related damage is a balance between TP per hit and frequency of hits. I gave a very general conversion for comparison but its not absolute. Hell just add Samurai's roll and see what that does to the balance.

RDM has no such problems really. You only have one good tp set now, which is Malignance and multi-attack is covered by temper II. There is almost no slots when you would choose between stp or ma (beside maybe ring), unless single wielding or not using enspells.

Hi.

Recently started to poke enspell on stuffs.

Got a few question on it:

1. Do crocea mors boost to enspell affects both hands?

2. Tried enspells on both mid and zone boss, and in both the dmg went down to 10% (20~40). Is that the resist effect or some native MDT on those bosses? Actually is it feasible trying to beat those bosses with enspells?

3. About the waist slot i know orpheus should be BiS but if i dont have it, is elemental obi an option? or the day bonus is granted regardless of waist?

Thanks in advance

1. No

2. you mean the big statue that trigger wave 2? You were likely seeing resist, enspells still need MACC and are otherwise subject to normal magic resist rules, on a per swing basis.

3. orpheus is not always bis. In general orpheus is a good bet. Obi beats orpheus if you are in the following situations:

a) You have double weather of the righht type, and your enspell is NOT weak to current day.

b) you have single or double weather AND current day matching your enspell element.

Obi gives you the boost and also the negatives according to the day/weather relationship. So for example, even if you have double wind weather but its iceday, you should orpheus for enaero until iceday has passed.

Actually, unless you're using other sources of affinity (Pixie Hairpin +1 on Sanguine Blade, for example), point blank range Orpheus beats double weather or single weather + day because even without obi you still have a 33% chance of a weather/day proc.

Your average damage bonus with Orpheus and double weather is 1.15 x (1 + 0.333 x 0.2) = 22.67%. You need double weather + day for obi to have a higher average.

Double weather is 25% with obi, you still beat Orpheus+proc.

Orpheus + proc (22.67%) beats single weather+day (20%) by 2.67%, a third of the time, I don't think that's worth it.

15+15+22.67 (1/3 proc) is still lower that 20+20+20.

The obi is better for double weather, but the the difference is negligible. That difference gets more pronounced with extra affinity gear like levante dagger.

sash
80*1.15=92
80*1.15*1.2=110 1.15*(1+.2/3)=122.67%
80*1.15*1.25=115 1.15*(1+.25/3)=124.58%
1.3*(1+.25/3)=140.83%

obi
80*1.2=96
80*1.25=100
1.15*1.25=143.75%

92+92+{110;115}={294;299}
3*{96;100}={288;300}

You misunderstood that. 22.67% is avg across all 3 hits. if you want to break it down in 2x non proc and 1x proc it would be:
15+15+38 vs 20+20+20.

Also afaik this:
is only true for Hachirin-no-Obi, but not for single weather/day obis, but I don't think you would want to farm them again and lose inventory slots.

Hi.

Just another newb question. I was playing with filters so i didnt notice but do enspell procs even on a missed hit?

Thanks in advamce

No because that would be beyond broken. Could you imagine whiffing with a kraken club and still pumping out 1000+ AE/round and not landing a hit to feed any tp to the monster ?

Diff topic: Anyone can share their CDC set? I went back a dozen or so pages and didn't see any. Also not on front page but maybe I missed it in first post I see the set, but is it up to date? Thanks

Not really understand what you mean here :) You suggest that En spell damage doesnt wake up slept mobs?

You can do exactly what you described already with dual wielding daggers doing 0 damage. They don't wiff, but give 0 TP to a mob and with Temper II you have almost as much attacks per second as with single wielding Kclub (or maybe even more actually).

Lol, aside bosses, dmg wasnt that terrible even wih lv4 dagger and no acc buffs.

Gonna try new buffs to see if i can get enough accuracy next dyna event.

Anyone know how much evasion mobs and bosses have in dyna div?

Thanks in advance

The difference is that with D1 Daggers hitting for zero, you need physical accuracy to match to the content. The question Buukki was answering was if the enspell dmg still comes into play on a whiff.

Simple Answer @Panta: No, enspells don't work if the physical hit flat out misses.

Edit:

If you're looking at the set that looks like 4/5 Taeon, I'd say that no, it's not up to date, but it's also not terrible if you don't have any strong need for accuracy.

I use:
Main: R15 Almace
Sub: Ternion+1 (acc isn't a problem) or Tauret (you want more acc)
Ammo: Yetshila +1
Head: Taeon
Body: Ayanmo+2
Hands: Malignance
Legs: Viti Tights +3
Feet: Thereoid
Neck: Fotia
Waist: Fotia
Back: Ambu
Ear1: Sherida
Ear2: Mache +1
Ring1: Begrudging
Ring2: Ilabrat

You could swap in Malignance Chapeau if you wanted more accuracy in the CDC set. If you wanted even more of an accuracy boost in the set, you could use Ayanmo+2 Feet.

Excellent! I have most of that stuff. thx a bunch

Tauret offhand also has a solid amount of DEX/Atk which will boost CDC more consistently than Ternion+1. Tauret also has a lot more DMG with similar Delay for offhand white damage. All of that together should slightly beat out the TA+4%, unless you're always in a high buff situation.

Which is better for your refresh duration set: Grapevine Cape (flat 30 seconds) or Ghostfrye (+18-20% Enhancing duration)?

The guide shows Grapevine in the set, but in the feet slot it shows Empyrean+1 over Inspirited Boots (15 second increase) in a similar situation. I assume this is because the empy boots 30% give a larger duration bonus than the 15 seconds on inspirited, but I don't know where in the calculation those bonuses are applied (at the base spell duration value or after multiplying all modifiers/composure). So it's hard to tell.

Also, how close is Grapevine to Ghostfrye (assuming 20% aug) for Refresh duration (? If its only a few seconds off, i'll skip it.

if you don't merit enhancing duration, ghostfyre is easily ahead.
if you do merit it, grapevine is like 6 seconds ahead.

Ghostfyre can also get +enhancing skill, which makes it better for temper and enspells etc. But another alternative is the ambu cape it gets a +20% duration in its vanilla state and you'd likely have at least one of those.

For me, I don't even have a slot for the Grapevine Cape anymore because Refresh 3 last so long anyways that +/- anything around 10sec for refresh only is not worth the inv slot.

The comparison of the two weapons is actually pretty fun/complex.

I don't disagree a whole lot with what you're saying, but the TA+4 affects WS dmg (randomly) and it affects Almace's dmg (Triple DMG), it affects enspell damage, and more importantly, it affects WS Frequency.

I've tried both weapons in parse offs against myself, and time and time again, I find myself using Ternion +1 more often than Tauret in the offhand.

Ternion also comes with a bonus bit of Subtle Blow.

i always forget ambu cape has 20% enhancing duration

Ghostfyre's 19 is better than ambu's 20.

I tend to always have Samurai Roll from a COR mule, so my damage is usually weighted more toward WSs (where DEX/Atk are important). So Tauret consistently parses higher for me than Ternion+1. I guess if you only have Trust buffs then Ternion+1 could be a better choice, but generally the TA+4% on it is somewhat devalued due to Temper II.

Then again, I suppose with Malignance we are somewhat low on TA now. So I'll have to reparse it at some point.

Honestly, the TA+4's value has increased with access to Malignance Set, if anything.

Edit: You've edited your post to say basically the same sentiment I've said in this one. You can disregard my comment here.

Yeah, I mentioned that in an edit before you replied. Either way, Crocea/Daybreak are so far ahead right now that I haven't been able to use my R15 Almace for most content. It's a bit of a shame, really.

In any case, Tauret probably still pulls ahead when using our old multiattack setups without Malignance for fodder mobs. But that's relatively niche.

I dont think it's shame, it's actually cool that the best RDM melee setup is based on enspells and elemental WSs, instead of some general multi jobs builds.

While I can feel the pain of people who R15ed their Almace etc, I have to wholeheartedly agree with Simon on this.

I agree RDM is different like that instead of yet another melee that shoots physical WSs.
I hope it's gonna stay.

I mean people argument against it is probably only about this build is based on weapon that you can buy from ah. I would kinda understand it if mythic, empy or relics beside gils require you to make something significant on RDM (doing 1000+ weapon skills doesnt count). Actually Crocea is the weapon that kinda force you to play RDM. You need to get to master to even use it and then it's generally better to save gils and get 25 rank by playing the job in Dynamis.

Just did a quick parse to confirm:

Identical setup for both:
- Red Curry Bun +1
- Rostam Crooked Samurai Roll 11 / Chaos 11
- Idris Indi-Fury + BoG/EA Frailty
- Dia III
- Joachim/Ulmia/Yoran-Oran

TP:
ItemSet 369270

Debating whether to use Ilabrat over Petrov in general, but at Attack cap Petrov should win.

DW cape with Brutal+Windbuffet+1 is also very solid and likely a DPS gain. I opted to use Reiki+Eabani due to the extra HP, Magic Evasion, Accuracy and very slightly better Delay, but it's situational.

WS:
ItemSet 369271

R15 Almace/Tauret:



R15 Almace/Ternion+1:

(Forgot to check WS avg before resetting--sorry!)

Ternion+1 is very clearly ahead.