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Science Vs Science Fiction
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Science vs Science Fiction
Your basics = Brainwashed *** easily pulled apart from the seams fact by fact contradicting one another
Josiahkf said: » Siren.Akson said: » Your basics = Brainwashed *** easily pulled apart from the seams fact by fact contradicting one another Gravity exists and anything with mass creates it. Give me some precise numbers. Distance of Miles that the Earth's and Sun's gravitational pull are even relevant. If you cannot answer the Basics. Then clearly your Math is Broken. Everything is as I claimed it to be. Minus the Axis spin of Planets being 100% controlled by the Sun's Axis itself. Josiahkf said: » Siren.Akson said: » Josiahkf said: » Siren.Akson said: » Your basics = Brainwashed *** easily pulled apart from the seams fact by fact contradicting one another Gravity exists and anything with mass creates it. Give me some precise numbers. Distance of Miles that Earth's and Sun's gravitational pull is relevant. the equation is the force of gravity = (G x M1 x M2)/ (D squared) D is the distance between them M1 is the mass of the first object M2 is the mass of the second object and G is the universal gravitation constant, which is 6.673 x 10-11 Nm2/kg2 for this equation: the system must be metric, the mass must be in kilograms and the distance must be in metres. So if we use a 68 kilogram person, with the earth weighing 5.98 x 10 to the 24th power kilograms and the distance to the center of the earth being 6.38 x 106 metres, the force of gravity on the person standing on the surface of the earth is 665 Newtons. http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Force-of-Gravity So you now know gravity works by an Inverse Square law, meaning twice the distance would be one quarter of the gravitational force i.e. It would never totally run out but would become insignificant. Josiahkf said: » Reread it. Focus on the bolded. Josiahkf said: » Siren.Akson said: » Josiahkf said: » Reread it. Focus on the bolded. If you are, the yearly average distance between them is one Astronomical unit (AU), or 149.6 million kilometers. Because we circle the sun in an orbit, every second we get closer or farther away than that based on the current part of our orbit that day. 10 miles? 500 miles? 50 light years? If you cannot show exactly how far each Planet's gravitational pull reaches then there is something seriously *** wrong here. In my head the Distance is not far enough to sustain our Solar System of Orbits. Unless you would like to show the Math & Prove me Wrong?
Siren.Akson said: » They recite. Recite. Recite. Recite. Repeatedly over and over nonstop until the only Reality they know is what they are told. Brainwashed. Into a dilusional state of mind. Uncapable of distinguishing Fact from Fiction nor able to think clearly for themselves beyond what was written. Science itself is more a Belief than anything. Just like all Religions are. Filled w/ relentless contradictions uncontested nor challenged. I went 6/6 - Anyone suggesting otherwise is absolutely *** dilusional. Twisting, distorting, or ignoring what I linked/quoted/said is a waste of my time You have absolutely 0 room to speak about thinking clearly or being able to distinguish facts. No one here is just reciting just because that's what we all "believe". We're reciting it because we went to school and this is elementary science. There is no debate about the truth to the vast majority of everything discussed in this thread. You are the one who is finding weird ***on the internet and misinterpreting it and not understanding what is actually said. Every single time you link some page or quote some text which provided a source I have told you the actual explanation for it and tried to correct your mistakes and you're complaining that we are wasting YOUR time? Science is not a belief. It's a method and you'd do well to learn about the method and how to correctly understand the world around you. You went 0/6. Everything you have said is completely wrong on every point. You take analogies as literal representations of reality. You link papers you don't understand and cherry pick it to mean what you think it means and quoted utter nonsense. I've contested just about every post you have made and tried to offer a simple basic explanation of what the actual truth is in a way that that a small child could grasp and yet every time, without fail you manage to misunderstand. I'll agree that religion is ***, I think that too, but Science is not a religion. It's not scientism. Science is observing the world and universe and forming models that fit what we experience, then testing them to ensure they accurately depict what occurs. In any case, if this antagonistic attitude is going to be what I get for spending as much time and irritation as I have already then why would I keep trying to help?
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » Siren.Akson said: » They recite. Recite. Recite. Recite. Repeatedly over and over nonstop until the only Reality they know is what they are told. Brainwashed. Into a dilusional state of mind. Uncapable of distinguishing Fact from Fiction nor able to think clearly for themselves beyond what was written. Science itself is more a Belief than anything. Just like all Religions are. Filled w/ relentless contradictions uncontested nor challenged. I went 6/6 - Anyone suggesting otherwise is absolutely *** dilusional. Twisting, distorting, or ignoring what I linked/quoted/said is a waste of my time You have absolutely 0 room to speak about thinking clearly or being able to distinguish facts. No one here is just reciting just because that's what we all "believe". We're reciting it because we went to school and this is elementary science. There is no debate about the truth to the vast majority of everything discussed in this thread. You are the one who is finding weird ***on the internet and misinterpreting it and not understanding what is actually said. Every single time you link some page or quote some text which provided a source I have told you the actual explanation for it and tried to correct your mistakes and you're complaining that we are wasting YOUR time? Science is not a belief. It's a method and you'd do well to learn about the method and how to correctly understand the world around you. You went 0/6. Everything you have said is completely wrong on every point. You take analogies as literal representations of reality. You link papers you don't understand and cherry pick it to mean what you think it means and quoted utter nonsense. I've contested just about every post you have made and tried to offer a simple basic explanation of what the actual truth is in a way that that a small child could grasp and yet every time, without fail you manage to misunderstand. I'll agree that religion is ***, I think that too, but Science is not a religion. It's not scientism. Science is observing the world and universe and forming models that fit what we experience, then testing them to ensure they accurately depict what occurs. In any case, if this antagonistic attitude is going to be what I get for spending as much time and irritation as I have already then why would I keep trying to help? Wtf kinda "Debate" is that... I have nothing more to show that you wont just repeat and do the same thing again Siren.Akson said: » If you cannot show exactly how far each Planet's gravitational pull reaches then there is something seriously *** wrong here. In my head the Distance is not far enough to sustain our Solar System of Orbits. Unless you would like to show the Math & Prove me Wrong? I alrdy know Ignorance can be a great opportunity if it leads to curiousity and desire to learn.
But it just becomes stupidity if it's approached with close mindedness and arrogance.
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Siren.Akson said: » Everything you said debating w/ me blatantly DELETED and ignored information quoted/linked that stood strong and undisputable against your position... Wtf kinda "Debate" is that... I have nothing more to show that you wont just repeat and do the same thing again The answer to your question is here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere There you will find how far the suns influence extends. I don't think anyone will actually spend anymore time with your ridiculous posts but I could be wrong. We have tried to help you but you either choose not to understand or you are incapable of understanding.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » Siren.Akson said: » Everything you said debating w/ me blatantly DELETED and ignored information quoted/linked that stood strong and undisputable against your position... Wtf kinda "Debate" is that... I have nothing more to show that you wont just repeat and do the same thing again Kodaijin said: » The answer to your question is here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere There you will find how far the suns influence extends. I don't think anyone will actually spend anymore time with your ridiculous posts but I could be wrong. We have tried to help you but you either choose not to understand or you are incapable of understanding. Im all for learning but I cannot just blindly follow uncontested information. If it's there. I need to see it. Otherwise Im reading this as just another Theory. If they tested and Proved that this is absolutely possitively Gravity control itself. Then atleast I know for certain. So I can rest easy knowing 50yrs from now. The story remains the same. Josiahkf said: » I am curious though if there is an equation for exactly how far away our gravity can sustain an orbit of an object, where at that point "no josiah at that point earth's gravity is too weak and any object in an orbit location would just accelerate away from us." This is my problem.... Did you read the damn thing? We have a probe out there. F***ing voyager. It's measuring this stuff. It's not some hypothetical crap.
You want to know how far earth has to be to not be affected by the suns gravity? Here ... do the math yourself. We've spoon fed you and you're still an idiot. D^2=((6.673x10^-11nm^2/kg^2)(1.989x10^30kg)(5.972x10^24kg))/.0000000001 There. Done.
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Kodaijin said: » Did you read the damn thing? We have a probe out there. F***ing voyager. It's measuring this stuff. It's not some hypothetical crap. You want to know how far earth has to be to not be affected by the suns gravity? Here ... do the math yourself. We've spoon fed you and you're still an idiot. D^2=((6.673x10^-11nm^2/kg^2)(1.989x10^30kg)(5.972x10^24kg))/.0000000001 There. Done. Change the 1.989x10^30kg to 90kg (200lbs person) to see how far away a 200 pound person would have to be to be essentially out of the earths gravitational influence.
You do realize that those distances don't matter. Who cares if I am floating out in space a billion miles from earth. The earths gravity still influences me but other planets will influence me more. And if you get past the suns boundary you will be influenced by another star or object in space. You will always be under the influence of gravity no matter where u go
I did the Math so PLEASE correct me if Im wrong.
- Earth's range of Gravitational Pull 248548.477 miles - Earth's Gravitational Range x Sun's Mass difference 248548.477 miles x 333,000 Distance Planets from the Sun in our Solar System 82,766,642,841 miles vs ??? How far are our Planets from the Sun Siren.Akson said: » I did the Math so PLEASE correct me if Im wrong. - Earth's range of Gravitational Pull 248548.477 miles - Earth's Gravitational Range x Sun's Mass difference 248548.477 miles x 333,000 Distance Planets from the Sun in our Solar System 82,766,642,841 miles vs ??? How far are our Planets from the Sun Just to make clear this information. - I took Earth's Gravitational Range (Miles) - Multiplied Earth's GR x the Sun's difference in Mass Unless I am mistaken mathematically. The Heliosphere range is NOT gravitational... alone |
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