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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-04 23:12:58
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
That is because of the conservation of angular momentum.
Gravity is a Force pulling Inward.
Are we saying it is capable of pulling objects around in circles?
Yes it can. You just explained such.

I dont believe it can. It's the Axis of the Sun itself creating a whirlpool. Which is how Mercury found itself next to the Sun going such speeds. The Sun's axis forces Planets moving inward to Speed Up. The odds that other such scenarios like Planets shooting through the Universe and just happening to be traveling at the perfect speed & perfect angle for every one of the planets in every Solar System to be formed. While for all to be revolving in the same direction of perfect unification around each Star. Rather unlikely scenario. Was what I was thinking.

Still no response from Reddit ><
 
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-04 23:32:40
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Josiahkf said: »
it sounds like you're learning now.

Sorry to bring up so many forces outside gravity on the last page; Didn't want to be confusing but needed inertia to really explain, and needed to explain where that came from etc
Slow learner... I had to correct myself >< hard sometimes accepting other PoV feeling as if you are defending your own PoV at the same exact time. I was listening!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-04 23:38:10
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I think he is getting orbital velocity.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-04 23:41:53
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I think he is getting orbital velocity.
I would seriously just like to know for certain. I understand yall reject how I see it. Idm that at all. Maybe it's even both but to what extent is my next question. Maybe it's only Gravity. Idk I mean if Gravity is unseen. Couldnt Space traveling in a whirlpool due to the Sun's axis rotation be invisible as well. I believe everything you said is True cept the part where I feel I made sense out of explaining. I think both are True.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-10-05 00:10:44
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Siren.Akson said: »
.... The Sun's axis forces Planets moving inward to Speed Up...
Replace axis with gravitational well.

Search protoplanearty disk.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-05 00:40:59
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
.... The Sun's axis forces Planets moving inward to Speed Up...
Replace axis with gravitational well.

Search protoplanearty disk.
So it's impossible then? Space is inanimate due to being in a vacuum and that which cannot be moved? Black Holes...
Actually nvm. I see. protoplanearty disk is impossible to swirl around a Star unless axis spin is capable of producing invisible whirlpools only able to be seen by dust.

The Sun is the Eye of a giant Space Hurricane. Maybe. I was always thinking that if stood w/ the Sun between me and Earth. Would I follow the path of Earth and Orbit or be sucked straight to the Sun. Also wondered how such might effect our Moon being locked to Earth. Idk..
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Siren.Akson said: »
Still no response from Reddit ><

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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-05 01:35:03
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How accurate is this? Shows everything as far as we can see.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-05 04:31:55
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Ripples in spacetime are generated by fast-orbiting stars (such as neutron stars, white dwarfs and black holes.) NASA
the Sun, the Stars, the Planets, the Whole Galaxy + Pulsars

I would just like to add those things to NASA's list. Everything spinning in Space does this.
Subract "Gravitational Waves" + Add "Electromagnetic Sphere"Subract "Super Massive Black Hole" + Add "Pulsar"
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I would like to solve the puzzle Pat. What is "Astrophysics"
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-06 14:17:42
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When renowned Astronomers sound more like Mad Scientists than Realists.

What if I spun the Sun 2x faster. 10x faster, 100x faster. In the other direction. What would this do to the planets orbitting our Sun.
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By Kodaijin 2016-10-06 14:19:45
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It would do nothing. Spin doesnt matter.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-06 20:01:26
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Kodaijin said: »
It would do nothing. Spin doesnt matter.
Obviously. We should be more concerned about trying to understand the possibilities of Spagettification from the Spaghetti Monster in the Sky.

Im sure it means nothing. Planets criss-cross paths orbitting thier Star revolving in opposing directions all over the place going against thier Star's axis rotation.

Such speculation is absolutely useless information
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On a more serious note. What you posted about the Heliosphere is spoken about 29:18 described as the Sun's Geo Magnetic Sphere like the Earth has but around our whole Solar System. I was not understanding the Heliosphere as being as such.

We should be studying other Solar Systems which should help us understand our own Solar System better.
 
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-06 20:54:07
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eslim said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
Such speculation is absolutely useless information
all as one thought that doesnt really pertain to this one yes ?
Kodaijin said: »
It would do nothing. Spin doesnt matter.
Yeah, I was talking about the Black Hole speculation and not Kodaijin's at all. Other than the idea that we should know.
Soon enough. Hopefully. How other Solar System's work.
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2010/10/07/counterclockwise-but-there-are/
This guy is thinking the same as myself but for totally different reasons. When I see the Earth diagram tilted. A ball rolling on the ground Counter-Clockwise too should tilt inward towards the turn. I think... or maybe Im just making something out of nothing
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-06 21:37:09
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Siren.Akson said: »
eslim said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
Such speculation is absolutely useless information
all as one thought that doesnt really pertain to this one yes ?
Kodaijin said: »
It would do nothing. Spin doesnt matter.
I was talking about the Black Hole speculation and not Kodaijin's at all. Other than the idea that we should know.
Soon enough. Hopefully. How other Solar System's work.
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2010/10/07/counterclockwise-but-there-are/
This guy is thinking the same as myself but for totally different reasons. When I see the Earth diagram tilted. A ball rolling on the ground Counter-Clockwise too should tilt inward towards the turn. I think... or maybe Im just making something out of nothing
I find it so *** strange that when Stars are born they form a "disc" around them.

It's almost as is if everything in our Solar System is perfectly tilted by size to ride an invisible "disc" around in circles of the Sun. Even the ring around Saturn is a gd *** disc.. idfk. What is so special about the Equator?
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-07 01:20:19
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Still-Forming Solar System May Have Planets Orbiting Star in Opposite Directions, Astronomers Say
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Astronomers studying a disk of material circling a still-forming star inside our Galaxy have found a tantalizing result -- the inner part of the disk is orbiting the protostar in the opposite direction from the outer part of the disk.
Mystery object in weird orbit beyond Neptune cannot be explained
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To grasp how truly rebellious it is, remember that a flat plane is the signature of a planetary system, as a star-forming gas cloud creates a flat disk of dust and gas around it. “Angular momentum forces everything to have that one spin direction all the same way,” says Bannister. “It’s the same thing with a spinning top, every particle is spinning the same direction.”

That means anything that doesn’t orbit within the plane of the solar system or spins in the opposite direction must have been knocked off course ...


NASA: Understanding the Magnetic Sun

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The Heliosphere
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The heliosphere is the immense magnetic bubble containing our solar system, solar wind, and the entire solar magnetic field. It extends well beyond the orbit of Pluto. While the density of particles in the heliosphere is very low (it's a much better vacuum than is created in a laboratory), it is full of particles of interest to heliospheric scientists.
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Sun's Wind Is Lowest Ever Recorded
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the overall solar wind is 20 to 25 percent weaker, in terms of pressure and density, than during the previous solar minimum. Weaker solar winds mean a smaller and leakier heliosphere bubble, a protective sheath that surrounds the entire solar system. That means more background cosmic radiation gets through.

The Earth's Magnetic Field is weakening but so too is the Sun's harmful Solar Winds hitting the Earth as well as the Sun's own Magnetic Field defending the Earth. All while Kic Star lost 20% of her Light as well... including supposedly a -new- Planet in our own Solar System beyond Neptune orbitting the Sun going the wrong direction revolving.


What the Flux? No Sign of Aliens Around Strange, Dimming Star
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The star KIC 8462852 garnered popular attention in October, when scientists announced that it showed evidence of periodically dimming by 20 percent or more, which some people theorized could be caused by the shadow of an alien megastructure.

Hypothetical 'Planet X': Overview
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-07 20:40:01
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Why do the planets go around the Sun?
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Newton realized that the reason the planets orbit the Sun is related to why objects fall to Earth when we drop them. The Sun's gravity pulls on the planets, just as Earth's gravity pulls down anything that is not held up by some other force and keeps you and me on the ground. Heavier objects (really, more massive ones) produce a bigger gravitational pull than lighter ones, so as the heavyweight in our solar system, the Sun exerts the strongest gravitational pull.
Sir Isaac Newton died almost 300 years ago...

Technically, Earth Does Not Orbit Around the Sun
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"Technically, what is going on is that the Earth, Sun and all the planets are orbiting around the center of mass of the solar system," writes Cathy Jordan, a Cornell University Ask an Astronomer contributor.
"The center of mass of our solar system very close to the Sun itself, but not exactly at the Sun's center."
Which is assuming that almost 300 years ago Newton got it perfectly correct and Mass = Gravity.
Which still, to this day, has neither been confirmed nor denied almost 300 years later...


We really do not have a clue how Planets orbit. We cannot even prove that Mass delivers Gravity in the 1st place...
If uncontested assumptions transformed into (unproven) Facts such might lead to miscalculated misinformation leading Scientists forward looking for Planets orbitting the Sun that never even existed to begin w/ like Planet-X


· Planet-X doesnt Exist
· Mass =/= Gravity
· Gravity does not bend Light
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-08 00:15:36
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crimsondragon said: »


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That's exactly what some Physicists are claiming a White Hole is. A Hole in which everything comes out. While they believe a gd Black Hole is a BLM scroll of Warp. Where everything goes in. Looking for Worm Holes in the "fabric" of Spacetime. Suggesting that traveling faster effects clocks. When clocks are not even a reflection of time itself, nor pinned to such, but rather just mechanical or electronical devices malfunctioning... nothing but Science Fiction. Fantasies.

/endtheories
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By crimsondragon 2016-10-08 00:24:14
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/endlife
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crimsondragon said: »
/endlife
/wrist? cuz I have a brain and know how to use the mf thing not relying on some 300 year old uncontested space theory to scramble my mind into thinking nothing should be examined.

Newton was Human
Einstein was Human

Uncontested "Theories" are the very reason such Fantasies exist... which is alarming being that Science itself is not supposed to be based on beliefs like religion but rather Facts tested and proven.

Which is obviously not the case.
#ScientologyIsReal GTFO here w/ that BS
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By crimsondragon 2016-10-08 01:01:35
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You misunderstand.

The 300 year old "uncontested" theory is actually contested all the time with other "theories".

With nothing to actually prove them they all remain just that, theories. The difference is the older the theory the more people believe in it since it has been around so long and not been disproved.

How do you disprove something that cannot be proven in the first place, right?

Then we run into the problem of people throwing around the words science and ignorance and nothing new sticks around long enough to matter.

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Science is not supposed to be based on beliefs like religion but rather Facts tested and proven.

Very little I've cared to glance at the past few pages can actually be proven, rather it be 300 year old theory or 2 day old theory.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-08 01:11:15
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crimsondragon said: »
You misunderstand.

The 300 year old "uncontested" theory is actually contested all the time with other "theories".

With nothing to actually prove them they all remain just that, theories. The difference is the older the theory the more people believe in it since it has been around so long and not been disproved.

How do you disprove something that cannot be proven in the first place, right?

Then we run into the problem of people throwing around the words science and ignorance and nothing new sticks around long enough to matter.
Idk why we are so technologically advanced yet do not attempt to even challenge Newton's theory. Which was perfect explaining how gravity works here on Earth yet that does not necessarily mean that is how it works in Space. Which is why so many Theories exist on how our Solar System orbits the Sun.
crimsondragon said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
Science is not supposed to be based on beliefs like religion but rather Facts tested and proven.

Very little I've cared to glance at the past few pages can actually be proven, rather it be 300 year old theory or 2 day old theory.
If you were paying attention. After I got off of my own theory crafting. I posted nothing but news from NASA and other reliable, I think, sources on this page. I dont want to take wild guesses. I want to know w/ 100% conviction and only Scientists can test & teach such. Not me.
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By crimsondragon 2016-10-08 01:16:56
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Siren.Akson said: »
I want to know w/ 100% conviction

That's the problem, very few things are 100% in life.

Death and taxes. Sun/moon rise/fall. And when you trip youre going to fall. That is really about it on the 100% scale, sorry.
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Is there another world lurking beyond Neptune? Strange orbit of new minor planet hints at mysterious object in the outer reaches of our solar system

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A bizarre new minor planet found orbiting beyond Neptune, which has been named Niku, may have been bumped into its odd orbit by a far larger planet or dwarf planet that has still to be discovered (artist's impression pictured)

So WHERE are the gd real Photos w/ images of this "Planet"....
crimsondragon said: »
Siren.Akson said: »
I want to know w/ 100% conviction

That's the problem, very few things are 100% in life.

Death and taxes. Sun/moon rise/fall. And when you trip youre going to fall. That is really about it on the 100% scale, sorry.
That's not good enough my friend. Try harder. I wont be alive 300 years from now when someone finally decides to question if/how and to what effect Gravity controls Space. Let alone an Unidentified Flying Planet orbitting w/in our own Solar System w/ zero satelite images of it...
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By crimsondragon 2016-10-08 01:25:07
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Sure toss me a couple million dollars for my research and i'll get right on it.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-10-08 01:27:27
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crimsondragon said: »
Sure toss me a couple million dollars for my research and i'll get right on it.
Did you think I thought you worked for NASA?
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By crimsondragon 2016-10-08 01:37:21
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Since you keep adding stuff after you post.
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I wont be alive 300 years from now when someone finally decides to question if/how and to what effect Gravity controls Space. Let alone an Unidentified Flying Planet orbitting our Solar System w/ zero satelite images of it...

Why do you care then?

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crimsondragon said: »
Sure toss me a couple million dollars for my research and i'll get right on it.
Did you think I thought you worked for NASA?
No? It was a joke. A fairly blatant one at that.

Plus, more of a chance existed that you would give me a couple million dollars then having 100% certainty about how things work in space.
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