eliroo said: »
No one is here denying his insider trading, scummy business practices or other illegal behaviors.
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Random Politics & Religion #11
Funny to see who puts likes on certain comments sometimes.
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Here's the problem. Being critical of Obama or Hillary doesn't make you, inherently, racist or sexist (respectively).
But some people critical of them are those things. While by no means an absolute, it's fairly easily to distinguish. People who are voting for Trump because he's not Hilary generally don't fall into the deplorable category. People who actively support Trump because they fervently believe the things he's saying? That's not a clear indicator, but it's far more likely that people across the board would consider them deplorable. I still go back and forth on voting for Clinton as a vote against Trump, or just staying home and boarding up the windows. Neither seems like a particularly useful way to spend my time, but I can see advantages and disadvantages to both.
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Ramyrez said: » Here's the problem. Being critical of Obama or Hillary doesn't make you, inherently, racist or sexist (respectively). But some people critical of them are those things. While by no means an absolute, it's fairly easily to distinguish. People who are voting for Trump because he's not Hilary generally don't fall into the deplorable category. People who actively support Trump because they fervently believe the things he's saying? That's not a clear indicator, but it's far more likely that people across the board would consider them deplorable. Like how people who voted for Obama because he was black are racists. Racism & Sexism are not a Republican-only trait. It is just as prevalent with democrats/liberals. But how come they aren't "deplorable"? It's because they support Clinton, that excludes them from that label, along with sexist/racist. So my point stands. Clinton considers people who will not vote for her deplorable, and will label them as sexist/racist/whatever only because they won't vote for her. That is the only thing she knows about these people, not if they are true sexist or racists or anything of that nature.
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Ramyrez said: » People who actively support Trump because they fervently believe the things he's saying? has anyone even determined what the hell he is saying?
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Ramyrez said: » Here's the problem. Being critical of Obama or Hillary doesn't make you, inherently, racist or sexist (respectively). But some people critical of them are those things. While by no means an absolute, it's fairly easily to distinguish. People who are voting for Trump because he's not Hilary generally don't fall into the deplorable category. People who actively support Trump because they fervently believe the things he's saying? That's not a clear indicator, but it's far more likely that people across the board would consider them deplorable. And what's so bad about being deplorable ? I take pride in Hillary calling me "deplorable"
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Ramyrez said: » I still go back and forth on voting for Clinton as a vote against Trump, or just staying home and boarding up the windows. Neither seems like a particularly useful way to spend my time, but I can see advantages and disadvantages to both. You should vote trump it will be more fun! I know it goes against every intelligent brain cell you have left....so just soak those down with whiskey and join the party
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » has anyone even determined what the hell he is saying?
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » People who are voting for Clinton because she is a female are sexist also. Like how people who voted for Obama because he was black are racists. There's a lot of bitterness buried below these words, and I'm not entirely sure if it's conscious on your part or not. Either way, it's a major part of the problem with the way we approach these topics in this country. For instance, I'm not really a fan of affirmative action, but at the same time, it's not a racist program as much as an imperfect response to racism. Same idea with what you're saying. But what you're saying is echoed by a lot of people who, again, consciously or otherwise...are really bitter and directing it at the wrong place.
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Ramyrez said: » I still go back and forth on voting for Clinton as a vote against Trump, or just staying home and boarding up the windows. Neither seems like a particularly useful way to spend my time, but I can see advantages and disadvantages to both. You'll vote for Trump and you'll like it. Remember taking your first drink of beer tasted bad right. You'll get used to it ! Asura.Kingnobody said: » Racism & Sexism are not a Republican-only trait. It is just as prevalent with democrats/liberals. You are, however, right about this. Especially among those in powerful places. People in the upper echelons of society seem to think the same of the poor, minorities, and the like regardless of their party affiliation. It's just a matter of how they go about manipulating them. Siren.Mosin said: » There's always Gary Johnson! Look, if I just wanted to smoke pot until nothing bothered me, he'd be an option. But... ...wait. Would that work? *ponders*
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fonewear said: » Ramyrez said: » I still go back and forth on voting for Clinton as a vote against Trump, or just staying home and boarding up the windows. Neither seems like a particularly useful way to spend my time, but I can see advantages and disadvantages to both. You'll vote for Trump and you'll like it. Remember taking your first drink of beer tasted bad right. You'll get used to it ! This isn't the most nonsensical thing you've ever said. Deep thoughts Friday, apparently.
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There's also Jill Frankenstein.
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Siren.Mosin said: » There's always Gary Johnson! he has been suffering from "rick perry syndrome" and turning into a blithering idiot every time someone shoves a camera in his face...
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » There's also Jill Frankenstein.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » There's also Jill Frankenstein. Her and Gary have spent the past few weeks providing how stunningly terrible they'd be in the office. Almost on the same level as Trump. It just doesn't get the coverage because, well. Trump. Besides, who wants to be on the losing team? At this point voting for either of them is like being a Bills fan. You're just not going to win anything. Moral victories are all you can claim.
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eliroo said: » I'm honestly all for evidence against Hillary, even if it is non-conclusive. I don't accept their allegations as truth but the information presented can help lead to the truth. There is a lot of grey areas in the case against her and obvious political corruption. I don't think we will ever get a definitive proof because of the political power she commands. Remember when you talked about how we should be talking about real issues (not silly things like civil equality). How exactly does this fit into that? I would be nice to discuss actual platforms but the Republican candidate doesn't have anything beyond half-baked ideas so that's kinda out the window. The third party candidates are almost as coherent as your typical FFXIAH poster. So go ahead vote for me !
Shiva.Nikolce said: » Siren.Mosin said: » There's always Gary Johnson! he has been suffering from "rick perry syndrome" and turning into a blithering idiot every time someone shoves a camera in his face... Grilling a libertarian on foreign policy is like expecting a pacifist to be an expert in modern warfare.
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Come to think of it, Gary Johnson would, at the very least, probably get the DEA to stop being *** about decriminalizing pot.
Which would be a damn slight more progress than I think either of the lead candidates will make with any government organizations. This...hmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. If actually getting anything done in office is the deciding factor... Siren.Mosin said: » There's always Gary Johnson! Siren.Mosin said: » There's always Gary Johnson!
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Jill Stein reminds me of my English teacher she would be good at teaching me what a metaphor is...but leading the country I don't think so.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » half-baked ideas I'm not sure they reach that threshold... /checks with a toothpick I suspect he put too low of a wattage bulb in his Easy bake oven....
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fonewear said: » Jill Stein reminds me of my English teacher she would be good at teaching me what a metaphor is...but leading the country I don't think so. She'll teach you more than that.  |
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