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AGW Theory - Discussion
By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 20:38:35
That's nice but what is statistically acceptable has nothing to do with your personal experiences and what you feel is good enough.
Go ahead and name some things that have a 20% error rate and are acceptable.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-24 20:43:56
Complex systems with high natural variation
By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 20:56:59
Which are?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-24 20:58:52
observed warming trend with a less than 20% error. Lets see. Things I trust that have a 20% error.
I was going to make a sarcastic list of stuff but,
I'm truthfully having a hard time coming up with anything. Things that are built by Ford.
Movies that are made by George Lucas.
Things that are made in China.
Things that a Dark Knight aims at.
Chances of fonewear making a serious post.
Chances of a prom date using a condom correctly.
Chances of finding a working XBOX 360.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-24 21:00:43
Obviously climate models.
I mean, what's the point in using real data when made up data works better? With a 20% error rate too!
20% chance that somebody would question the data that is.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-24 21:21:04
Biological systems
Ecosystem dynamics
Basically anything with lots of interacting parts and a high degree of intrinsic randomness. I can't really think of a more relatable, everyday example right now. Perhaps economic projections but not familiar with those.
By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 21:47:10
I can't really think of a more relatable, everyday example right now.
Perhaps you should think about why that is.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-24 21:53:51
Because the world is more complex than common, everyday experiences?
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 22:01:00
Because the world is more complex than common, everyday experiences? Fairly certain that's my line. You're slipping.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 22:01:32
You realize you have been dancing around this for almost 3 whole pages now? It's hilarious!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-24 22:14:00
I have no idea what you're talking about. You asked, I answered.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 23:10:30
I have no idea what you're talking about. You asked, I answered.
That is the real tragedy in all of this. You don't have any idea but think you have all the answers.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 23:39:21
No, Floppy. You cannot have my babies.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-24 23:52:26
Only goes to show how little you pay attention. We are quickly approaching Planned Parenthood levels here.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-25 00:14:03
I have no idea what you're talking about. You asked, I answered.
That is the real tragedy in all of this. You don't have any idea but think you have all the answers. You're a child.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-25 00:21:17
ROFL. That's big of you. I guess when you got nothing else.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-25 04:24:43
ROFL. That's big of you. I guess when you got nothing else. No sincerely Altima, that's so blatant...
He said he answered your question and your reply was "oh so you think you have all the answers!"
What purpose does a response like that serve? You only want discord with him and to tell him he is wrong regardless of what he tells you. Anyone reading can realize that.
But is this all you want to be?
Not that I expect a sincere answer, but who knows, it's xmas..
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-25 08:56:07
Perhaps economic projections but not familiar with those. Economic projections do not have a 20% error rate, it's greater than that, but even then, they are not used for anything more at guessing at the future.
I mean, it's not like we can forecast the 2nd quarter 2016 and demand that we all change our ways of life to fit the narrative.
Climate science is doing just that, using made up numbers to fit their narrative and demand that we all change our ways to help fit the boogeyman narrative.
If climate scientists were honest and only stated that, by cleaning up the environment we help improve our lives and health, then you would have more people on board improving our environment than the current narrative of "OMG our made up numbers state that the earth will be destroyed in 50 years if we don't impose outlandish rules to change society's needs to fit what we consider minimal to the environment."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-25 09:32:46
Do you even settled democratic science?
By Altimaomega 2015-12-25 12:21:49
ROFL. That's big of you. I guess when you got nothing else. No sincerely Altima, that's so blatant...
He said he answered your question and your reply was "oh so you think you have all the answers!"
What purpose does a response like that serve? You only want discord with him and to tell him he is wrong regardless of what he tells you. Anyone reading can realize that.
But is this all you want to be?
Not that I expect a sincere answer, but who knows, it's xmas..
Anyone reading with any sense can obviously see he has not answered the question that has been asked 5-10 times over the past 3-4 pages.
Then calls me a child, Priceless!
I'm going to guess you didn't do the back reading, came in here and made assumptions on what is going on.
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By fonewear 2015-12-25 12:40:47
60 degrees F where I live the end is near !
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-25 13:02:48
Intentional stupidity or heavy metal poisoning?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-25 13:05:51
Intentional stupidity or heavy metal poisoning?
Al Gore: CO2 Makes You Stupid
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-25 13:10:00
Could be oxygen deprivation but I think it's more chronic.
By Altimaomega 2016-01-15 02:32:42
A theory other than climate change that actually deals with sea level rise. It's all sciencey and stuff too! They are using satellite data though so they are probably doing it wrong!
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2016/160112/ncomms10266/full/ncomms10266.html
Quote: The Greenland ice sheet has become one of the main contributors to global sea level rise, predominantly through increased meltwater runoff. The main drivers of Greenland ice sheet runoff, however, remain poorly understood. Here we show that clouds enhance meltwater runoff by about one-third relative to clear skies, using a unique combination of active satellite observations, climate model data and snow model simulations. This impact results from a cloud radiative effect of 29.5 (±5.2) W m−2. Contrary to conventional wisdom, however, the Greenland ice sheet responds to this energy through a new pathway by which clouds reduce meltwater refreezing as opposed to increasing surface melt directly, thereby accelerating bare-ice exposure and enhancing meltwater runoff. The high sensitivity of the Greenland ice sheet to both ice-only and liquid-bearing clouds highlights the need for accurate cloud representations in climate models, to better predict future contributions of the Greenland ice sheet to global sea level rise. Notice my use of the word Theory.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-01-15 08:54:38
yeah...it was just some passing clouds... everything is fine.
shop as usual and avoid panic buying
This thread per request and to alleviate debates in the Random P&R thread is for general discussion / debates / graphs / etc. on AGW (man made global warming) Theory.
Want to provide evidence of its existence, question that evidence, etc.?
Do it here.
Let's see how this goes.
Keep it relatively civil so I don't have to de-main it!
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