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			By Altimaomega 2015-12-01 22:20:06			
			
						
                     
                 You didn't present any science.
 Didn't need too since you haven't busted any points.
 
 Edit since you changed your post: You didn't present any science. I could bump a "Which relic should I make thread". Doesn't mean anyone should give a ***.
 Took you all of 21 minutes to come in here and  Thanks for playing.                                             
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			By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-01 22:44:01			
			
						
                     
                 Well, Saevel will come in soon with a little tidbit for you to bite onto. Hold tight.                                     
            
            
                
			
			By Altimaomega 2015-12-01 23:06:22			
			
						
                     
                 Nice rebuttal. Keep up the foot stomping.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Grumpy Cat 2015-12-02 00:55:57			
			
						
                     
                 Sometimes when I cook a pizza for 20 minutes, it still isn't cooked enough. 
Sometimes when I cook a pizza for 18 minutes it is burned.                                             
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			By Fenrir.Schutz 2015-12-02 07:53:38			
			
						
                     
                 Sometimes when I cook a pizza for 20 minutes, it still isn't cooked enough.
 Sometimes when I cook a pizza for 18 minutes it is burned.
That's just the Pepperoniño Effect--a localised phenomena and not necessarily indicative of uneven pizza warming, you know.                                             
            
            
                
			
			By fonewear 2015-12-02 08:14:00			
			
						
                     
                 Sometimes I raise global sea levels by 1 degree sometimes I don't. Almond Joy  ! YouTube Video Placeholder 
            
                
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			By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-06 20:34:01			
			
						
                     
                 According to this article the Paris climate talks are rigged. 
 Why the Paris climate deal is meaningless
 
 If you actually care about global warming, you should be rooting against an agreement.
 
And not rigged in favor of the climate.
 
Way too long for copypasta.
 Quote:  ....Somehow, the international process for addressing climate change has become one where addressing climate change is optional and apparently beside the point. Rich countries are bidding against themselves to purchase the developing world’s signature on an agreement so they can declare victory—even though the agreement itself will be the only progress achieved....
 
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			By charlo999 2015-12-13 06:18:59			
			
						
                     
                 
The last deal failed because of the financial aspect. 
This is the truth behind all the media attention whoring of portraying this as some monumental win for the world. 
In reality rich countries are using it as an option to loan the developing countries the cash to play to the tune of climate change. Obviously at interest. 
Just a new way to enslave the world with debt. Without any real solid evidence. In fact contradictory evidences.                                     
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                                
                                        
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-13 07:34:48			
			
						
                     
                 Just a new way to enslave the world with debt.Let me guess, the Federal Reserve is behind this scheme, isn't it?                                     
            
                
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			By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-13 08:53:38			
			
						
                     
                 Just a new way to enslave the world with debt.Let me guess, the Federal Reserve is behind this scheme, isn't it?Has to be either them or the trilateral comission, amirite?                                     
            
            
                
			
			By fonewear 2015-12-13 09:08:19			
			
						
                     
                 US Treasury  is behind global warming...think of all the carbon emissions it requires to print money !                                     
            
                
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			By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-13 11:41:01			
			
						
                     
                 Just a new way to enslave the world with debt.Let me guess, the Federal Reserve is behind this scheme, isn't it?To be fair they're usually behind a lot of things.
 
You don't get to be the world's reserve currency without getting your hands in a little bit of everything.                                             
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			By Altimaomega 2015-12-13 13:06:50			
			
						
                     
                 We should all be overjoyed climate changed has now been fixed! No longer do we have to hear about it destroying the world.  
Bonus: Nothing needs to be done at all until 2020 at which point Trump will wipe his *** with the treaty.  I'm not even a Trump supporter, but look forward to this.
Bonusx2: For the UN to pick one politically-selected factor, CO2 and then try to tweak it at the margins, and then come up with some temperature goal 50 -100 years in the future, is akin to scientific nonsense. You could call it modern day witchcraft!
 
 Let's all give a round of applause to governments around the world wasting our time and money doing absolute nothing.. Again!                                             
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			By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-13 13:26:02			
			
						
                     
                 Good thing intelligent people know they have to get rid of carbon emissions and there aren't people like Altima in charge.
 What they did is not enough, cause there's still a lot missing in the agreements, but it's something.
 
            
            
                
			
			By Altimaomega 2015-12-13 14:13:45			
			
						
                     
                 Glad you feel  better, because its actually less than something .                                             
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			By Altimaomega 2015-12-13 19:25:09			
			
						
                     
                 Quote:  A spokesman for Paul Ryan, the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives, told the Financial Times: “This agreement does not bind Congress in any way, and we will continue to focus on an energy policy that promotes America’s abundant natural resources,”
 
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			By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-13 19:30:02			
			
						
                     
                 Good luck with that.                                     
            
                
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			By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-13 19:56:07			
			
						
                     
                 Well the first part of what he said is true. The second part exemplifies why other developed nation's governments see Congressional Republicans as anti-science dipshits.                                     
            
                
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			By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-13 21:21:47			
			
						
                     
                 Just another way for Obama to ***over the America he and other liberals view as illegitimate. 
 Is there any other worldwide mechanism that transfers the wealth of a strangled middle class into the hands of third world despots?
 
 Follow the money.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                            
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-13 21:26:04			
			
						
                     
                 Good luck with that conspiracy theory.                                             
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			By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-14 09:20:26			
			
						
                     
                 Solar farm blocked by idiots....Solar Farm Rejected Amid Fears It Will 'Suck Up The Sun's Energy' Residents were concerned it would stop plants from growing and cause cancer.
 
HuffPo (emphasis added)
 Quote:  A town council in North Carolina rejected plans to rezone land for a solar farm after residents voiced fears it would cause cancer, stop plants from growing and suck up all the energy from the sun.
 Two citizens reportedly made the allegations at a Woodland Town Council meeting in Northampton County, northeastern North Carolina, on Wednesday.
 
 Bobby Mann said the farm would "suck up all the energy from the sun and businesses would not come to Woodland," the Roanoke-Chowan Herald-News reports.
 
 Retired science teacher Jane Mann feared the proposed solar ranch could hinder photosynthesis -- the process of converting light energy from the sun into chemical energy for fuel -- in the area and stop plants from growing.
 
 She added that no one could tell her solar panels didn't cause cancer.
 
 Other residents feared the effect it would have on the price of their homes.
 
 Councilors were voting on whether to redefine agriculturally designated land off U.S. Highway 258 for manufacturing.
 
 Strata Solar Company representative Brent Niemann told the meeting the only sunlight used would be that which fell on the panels directly. "The panels don't draw additional sunlight," he said.
 
 He told councilors that the farm would have no effect on property prices and promised that no toxic substances would be kept on site.
 
 But Woodland Town Council turned down the proposal, effectively stopping the company from building the planned renewable energy ranch. The council later voted to put a moratorium on future solar farms in the area, the Herald-News reports.
 
 Solar Power World Online ranks North Carolina  fourth in the U.S. for installed solar power capacity, with 161 companies employing 3,100 people in the industry.
 
            
                
                    
                    
                    
                                                                
                                        
                                                    
                                                                            
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			By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-14 09:27:04			
			
						
                     
                 Wrong thread to post stupid ***from Huffington Post Chanti.                                             
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			By Altimaomega 2015-12-14 18:28:19			
			
						
                     
                 The second part exemplifies why other developed nation's governments see Congressional Republicans as anti-science dipshits.
 How so?                                     
            
                
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			By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-16 10:58:12			
			
						
                     
                 Eating lettuce is three times worse for global warming than eating bacon!
Quote:  Following the USDA recommendations to consume more fruits, vegetables, dairy and seafood is more harmful to the environment because those foods have relatively high resource uses and greenhouse gas emissions per calorie, say researchers. A new study measured the changes in energy use, blue water footprint and GHG emissions associated with US food consumption patterns. 
Mc'Donalds for all!                                             
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			By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-12-16 11:59:31			
			
						
                     
                 Check out the actual study if you can. It gives an 11% increase in GHG emissions if everyone in the US ate the same amount of calories but shifting more to sources like vegetables, fruits, etc (including essentially useless ***like celery and iceberg lettuce) and less from meats, etc. Not sure where you're getting "three times worse for global warming" from. Anyway, it gets a little more complicated when you factor in stuff like vitamins and other non-caloric benefits from foods, wasted food, etc.                                     
            
                
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			By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-16 16:41:05			
			
						
                     
                 Wrong thread to post stupid ***from Huffington Post Chanti.I don't think there IS a wrong thread to post stupid ***from Huffington Post in.
 
Their stupid ***covers SO MANY basses.                                     
            
            
                
			
			By Altimaomega 2015-12-17 22:19:11			
			
						
                     
                 https://fallmeeting.agu.org/2015/press-item/new-study-of-noaas-u-s-climate-network-shows-a-lower-30-year-temperature-trend-when-high-quality-temperature-stations-unperturbed-by-urbanization-are-considered/
 Huh, wonder why this has never been thought of before.Quote:  New study of NOAA's U.S. Climate Network shows a lower 30-year temperature trend when high quality temperature stations unperturbed by urbanization are considered. 
            
                
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			By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-21 03:20:14			
			
						
                     
                 For the YouTube crowd: 
"Climatologist Breaks the Silence on Global Warming Groupthink"
 YouTube Video Placeholder Quote:  Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Following is her verbal remarks as delivered to last week's US Senate Commerce Committee Hearing on "Data or Dogma? Promoting Open Inquiry in the Debate Over the Magnitude of the Human Impact on Earth’s Climate." 
            
                
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			By Asura.Saevel 2015-12-21 05:02:12			
			
						
                     
                 
Oh it has but it doesn't serve the socialist agenda of the progressives so they avoid mentioning it.  I've mentioned several times that the published "record" isn't the real record and that the data has been manipulated to sell a particular politically convenient narrative.                                             
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        This thread per request and to alleviate debates in the Random P&R thread is for general discussion / debates / graphs / etc. on AGW (man made global warming) Theory.
 Want to provide evidence of its existence, question that evidence, etc.?
 
 Do it here.
 
 Let's see how this goes.
 
 Keep it relatively civil so I don't have to de-main it!
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