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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-04-28 13:30:37
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
deadly creatures

if there is one thing america needs more of it's deadly creature attacks
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By Cruz Missive 2016-04-28 13:33:41
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
So after reading this page I think some of you guys are saying Trump is the New Coke/CokeII of American Politics.

Or Pepsi Clear if you're a Pepsi person.

This metaphor works on so many levels. After all, all soda is bad for you, some is just worse than others. Different doesn't always mean better. And there isn't really that much difference between the two major powers in a lot of ways.

Not to mention, if RC Cola isn't Ted Cruz's spirit animal, it probably should be
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2016-04-28 13:33:53
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Palin you say?

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That moment was ripe for parody.

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-28 13:34:29
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
deadly creatures

if there is one thing america needs more of it's deadly creature attacks

We should work on that; clearly this is an untapped market.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2016-04-28 13:35:33
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
deadly creatures

if there is one thing america needs more of it's deadly creature attacks
Well, congrats. You just named next year's new reality TV show.
DEADLY CREATURE ATTACKS! Who will survive, and who will get the highest reconstructive surgery bill?
Find out next week!
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By Ramyrez 2016-04-28 13:37:56
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What is wrong with being a bully ?

Troll harder. Your troll juju is weak today.
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By Ramyrez 2016-04-28 13:39:08
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Not to mention, if RC Cola isn't Ted Cruz's spirit animal, it probably should be

Accurate on yet another level, because RC is, imo, the best cola for mixing with alcohol...and Ted Cruz's message should never been consumed sober.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-28 13:39:16
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
deadly creatures

if there is one thing america needs more of it's deadly creature attacks
Well, congrats. You just named next year's new reality TV show.
DEADLY CREATURE ATTACKS! Who will survive, and who will get the highest reconstructive surgery bill?
Find out next week!

Come to think of it, Steve Irwin is something America sorely needs.

*Imagines what Trumps campaign would be like with an Irwin running mate* --glorious.
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By Ramyrez 2016-04-28 13:40:04
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
deadly creatures

if there is one thing america needs more of it's deadly creature attacks
Well, congrats. You just named next year's new reality TV show.
DEADLY CREATURE ATTACKS! Who will survive, and who will get the highest reconstructive surgery bill?
Find out next week!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-04-28 15:52:34
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Really, why should anyone give Trump the benefit of the doubt? Sanders has his pet projects. Clinton has her pet projects. What exactly is the Trump pet project to make America 'better' other than repeating it ad nauseum?

The pet projects are irrelevant. Do you really think the majority of people voting for Hillary Clinton are doing it for a bigger reason than the fact that she's Hillary Clinton? Her stances change constantly.

Yeah, Trump's talking points are a bit... out there. People aren't voting for him in spite of his comments, they're voting for them because of his comments. Is that scary? Perhaps. But if you haven't noticed, people support him because they're sick of the status quo, and if Trump were 100% PC then he probably wouldn't be where he's at today.

No, they aren't. Hillary is hinging her campaign on experience and continuing what Barack Obama started. The last president was good and I'll be more like that, in effect. The whole reason she gets flak is precisely because it'll be more status quo, don't rock the boat for 4 years. Her stances on the current issues to Americans in her mind amounts to usual whining.

Trumps talking points aren't just out there, he constantly waffles on what exactly his plan is to make America great again. It's got a great hook but unlike his ideological opposite, Sanders, he doesn't have like one rallying cry that could translate to legislation. We can talk about if Sanders college plan is feasible or not but it's there. We know what he wants to do. We can discuss it.

What is it that Trump wants to do?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-04-28 15:56:26
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He'll make great deals!
He'll be unpredictable!
And he'll be evolving so fast you'll wonder how he can be so great!

If I didn't know these things came from his mouth I'd believe it's from Homer Simpson. But there it is, the campaign to make America great again.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-04-28 16:20:13
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
He'll make great deals!
He'll be unpredictable!

for all we know he already has a plan to sell the world to intergalactic real estate speculators looking to turn earth into a quick space buck....

still a better love story president than twilight hillary
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-28 16:26:50
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
What is it that Trump wants to do?

Make America Great Again.

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The conversation is a lot like this.
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
for all we know he already has a plan to sell the world to intergalactic real estate speculators looking to turn earth into a quick space buck....

What if Trump was really Zaphod Beeblebrox?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-04-28 16:37:49
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I wish we had somebody who wasn't trying to be so polar, but then again, we need people who wish to have a leader who wasn't polar.

In order to change the government, we need to change ourselves the system first.
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By fonewear 2016-04-28 17:20:02
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Really, why should anyone give Trump the benefit of the doubt? Sanders has his pet projects. Clinton has her pet projects. What exactly is the Trump pet project to make America 'better' other than repeating it ad nauseum?

The pet projects are irrelevant. Do you really think the majority of people voting for Hillary Clinton are doing it for a bigger reason than the fact that she's Hillary Clinton? Her stances change constantly.

Yeah, Trump's talking points are a bit... out there. People aren't voting for him in spite of his comments, they're voting for them because of his comments. Is that scary? Perhaps. But if you haven't noticed, people support him because they're sick of the status quo, and if Trump were 100% PC then he probably wouldn't be where he's at today.

No, they aren't. Hillary is hinging her campaign on experience and continuing what Barack Obama started. The last president was good and I'll be more like that, in effect. The whole reason she gets flak is precisely because it'll be more status quo, don't rock the boat for 4 years. Her stances on the current issues to Americans in her mind amounts to usual whining.

Trumps talking points aren't just out there, he constantly waffles on what exactly his plan is to make America great again. It's got a great hook but unlike his ideological opposite, Sanders, he doesn't have like one rallying cry that could translate to legislation. We can talk about if Sanders college plan is feasible or not but it's there. We know what he wants to do. We can discuss it.

What is it that Trump wants to do?

Win and he is doing it.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-28 17:38:52
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Already got people defending Clinton with her record of nothingness and saying we need more of Obamas failed policies..

Gonna be a long 7 more months.
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By fonewear 2016-04-28 17:41:04
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Don't worry Trump is going to play wait for it... the Trump card !
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-04-28 17:45:52
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Altimaomega said: »
Gonna be a long 7 more months.
*8 years of Lilly Clinton
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-04-28 17:55:07
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Let's compromise.

8 years and 7 months.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-28 17:56:26
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That is the way the left prefers to compromise. Got me there.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-04-28 18:18:26
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Oh, I lied. Ted Cruz -- on paper -- is worse than Donald Trump. But the thing about Cruz is most of his crazy is tied up in religious rhetoric that he'd never get pushed through into law.
You think Ted is scary? Do you know about his father?

His father has said, in public, that Ted will lead America into a Pure Christian Theocracy. oh... wait... there is some kinda divinely preordained part in there somewhere.

Really, but I amn't going to search it right now. Feel free to.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-28 18:21:58
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That's cute, we get to bring up fathers when it benefits our agendas this election go around?

smh
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-04-28 18:22:39
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Don't worry we never needed his dad to know he's *** crazy.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-28 18:24:26
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You say that like anyone around here cares....
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-04-28 22:19:35
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-28 22:40:20
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Odd, I've never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke either.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-05-01 21:22:54
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Oh **** Plato predicted Trump ...

Democracies end when they are too democratic.

And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny.

Andrew Sullivan in New York magazine

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As this dystopian election campaign has unfolded, my mind keeps being tugged by a passage in Plato’s Republic. It has unsettled — even surprised — me from the moment I first read it in graduate school. The passage is from the part of the dialogue where Socrates and his friends are talking about the nature of different political systems, how they change over time, and how one can slowly evolve into another. And Socrates seemed pretty clear on one sobering point: that “tyranny is probably established out of no other regime than democracy.” What did Plato mean by that? Democracy, for him, I discovered, was a political system of maximal freedom and equality, where every lifestyle is allowed and public offices are filled by a lottery. And the longer a democracy lasted, Plato argued, the more democratic it would become. Its freedoms would multiply; its equality spread. Deference to any sort of authority would wither; tolerance of any kind of inequality would come under intense threat; and multiculturalism and sexual freedom would create a city or a country like “a many-colored cloak decorated in all hues.”

This rainbow-flag polity, Plato argues, is, for many people, the fairest of regimes. The freedom in that democracy has to be experienced to be believed — with shame and privilege in particular emerging over time as anathema. But it is inherently unstable. As the authority of elites fades, as Establishment values cede to popular ones, views and identities can become so magnificently diverse as to be mutually uncomprehending. And when all the barriers to equality, formal and informal, have been removed; when everyone is equal; when elites are despised and full license is established to do “whatever one wants,” you arrive at what might be called late-stage democracy. There is no kowtowing to authority here, let alone to political experience or expertise.

The very rich come under attack, as inequality becomes increasingly intolerable. Patriarchy is also dismantled: “We almost forgot to mention the extent of the law of equality and of freedom in the relations of women with men and men with women.” Family hierarchies are inverted: “A father habituates himself to be like his child and fear his sons, and a son habituates himself to be like his father and to have no shame before or fear of his parents.” In classrooms, “as the teacher ... is frightened of the pupils and fawns on them, so the students make light of their teachers.” Animals are regarded as equal to humans; the rich mingle freely with the poor in the streets and try to blend in. The foreigner is equal to the citizen.

And it is when a democracy has ripened as fully as this, Plato argues, that a would-be tyrant will often seize his moment.
It does go quite a bit from there.
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-01 21:28:58
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Good, the United States false democracy needs to end and go back to a Constitutional Republic like it was meant to be.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-05-01 22:20:37
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Oh **** Plato predicted Trump ...

Democracies end when they are too democratic.

And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny.

Andrew Sullivan in New York magazine
Nostradamus predictions, Illuminati revolations and fear for all. Amen.
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-01 22:24:44
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Remember the good ole days when Obama was the Devil incarnate and was going to bring about the Apocalypse.

Meh, Maybe Trumps gamer tag is Apocalypse..
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