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By Siren.Mosin 2016-07-19 14:02:33
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You won't usually find a lot of substance in the .jpg vomit on this page.

True, I just haven't had time / don't care enough to get a comparison of the two speeches. If it's just that bit, that's silly.
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By Titanfoo 2016-07-19 14:08:40
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-19 14:09:11
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You won't usually find a lot of substance in the .jpg vomit on this page.

True, I just haven't had time / don't care enough to get a comparison of the two speeches. If it's just that bit, that's silly.

Well yeah, that's pretty much it from what I've seen/heard. Media talking points from these types of events rarely focus on the content, though. It's all a matter of what can get the most viewers/page hits.

Sheriff David Clark? Rudy Giuliani? Nobody seems to have a clue what they talked about, even though they gave some powerful speeches. It's all about NeverTrump and Melania.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-19 14:15:21
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Just watch the video comparison if you don't have time to read the speeches. Rick Astley needs writing royalties for a portion as well.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-07-19 14:29:04
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I watched it. Typical platitudes. I'm not impressed.
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-07-19 14:30:14
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By Titanfoo 2016-07-19 14:32:06
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Wow even the NYT and Washington Post are calling it plagiarism.
that's when you know you done fkd up.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-19 14:36:17
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Wow even the NYT and Washington Post are calling it plagiarism.
that's when you know you done fkd up.

Yes. When liberal news outlets use strong language against conservatives, you know that something super cereal has happened.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-19 14:40:57
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You won't usually find a lot of substance in the .jpg vomit on this page.

True, I just haven't had time / don't care enough to get a comparison of the two speeches. If it's just that bit, that's silly.

Well yeah, that's pretty much it from what I've seen/heard. Media talking points from these types of events rarely focus on the content, though. It's all a matter of what can get the most viewers/page hits.

Sheriff David Clark? Rudy Giuliani? Nobody seems to have a clue what they talked about, even though they gave some powerful speeches. It's all about NeverTrump and Melania.
Giulianis speech was garbage...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-19 14:41:58
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Titanfoo said: »
Wow even the NYT and Washington Post are calling it plagiarism.
that's when you know you done fkd up.

Yes. When liberal news outlets use strong language against conservatives, you know that something super cereal has happened.
It's kinda like when you make excuses for republicans by trashing democrats like that somehow makes it ok or less bad...
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By Cruz Missive 2016-07-19 14:45:37
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I'm trying and failing to see the outrage here. Consider it from the various sides:

If you're pro-Trump, and right of center: You might not be excited about them cribbing too much from Michelle Obama, and it'd be nice if they just threw a speechwriter under the bus and let everyone move on instead of letting this fester and dominate the news cycle, but whatever, man

If you're anti-Trump, but still right of center: This is kind of embarrassing, but it's the sort of Keystone Cops *** you've come to expect from The Donald at this point, isn't it?

If you're anti-Trump, and left of center: Why are you wasting mental energy on this? Melania isn't running for anything, and she didn't write it herself. Shouldn't you be more concerned with, say, the actual positions that are being wheeled out all week? You've got bigger fish to fry.

If you're pro-Trump, and left of center: You are a unicorn. You have better things to worry about than a dumb speech, like keeping your coat glossy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-19 14:46:07
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Titanfoo said: »
Wow even the NYT and Washington Post are calling it plagiarism.
that's when you know you done fkd up.

Yes. When liberal news outlets use strong language against conservatives, you know that something super cereal has happened.
It's kinda like when you make excuses for republicans by trashing democrats like that somehow makes it ok or less bad...

Yes, please continue to point out the things that you think I do. That always works out well for you.

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Giulianis speech was garbage...

Cool story bro.
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By fonewear 2016-07-19 14:46:28
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I would say this is all petty...Tom Petty:

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By fonewear 2016-07-19 14:48:27
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Cruz Missive said: »
I'm trying and failing to see the outrage here. Consider it from the various sides:

If you're pro-Trump, and right of center: You might not be excited about them cribbing too much from Michelle Obama, and it'd be nice if they just threw a speechwriter under the bus and let everyone move on instead of letting this fester and dominate the news cycle, but whatever, man

If you're anti-Trump, but still right of center: This is kind of embarrassing, but it's the sort of Keystone Cops *** you've come to expect from The Donald at this point, isn't it?

If you're anti-Trump, and left of center: Why are you wasting mental energy on this? Melania isn't running for anything, and she didn't write it herself. Shouldn't you be more concerned with, say, the actual positions that are being wheeled out all week? You've got bigger fish to fry.

If you're pro-Trump, and left of center: You are a unicorn. You have better things to worry about than a dumb speech, like keeping your coat glossy.

It's a story cause CNN has to have some ***to fill up all the dead air. I blame the 24/7 news coverage.
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By fonewear 2016-07-19 14:49:45
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Breaking news Melania Trump sleeps in the nude cause she thinks it will give her super sexual powers !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-19 14:51:26
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Cruz Missive said: »
I'm trying and failing to see the outrage here. Consider it from the various sides:

If you're pro-Trump, and right of center: You might not be excited about them cribbing too much from Michelle Obama, and it'd be nice if they just threw a speechwriter under the bus and let everyone move on instead of letting this fester and dominate the news cycle, but whatever, man

If you're anti-Trump, but still right of center: This is kind of embarrassing, but it's the sort of Keystone Cops *** you've come to expect from The Donald at this point, isn't it?

If you're anti-Trump, and left of center: Why are you wasting mental energy on this? Melania isn't running for anything, and she didn't write it herself. Shouldn't you be more concerned with, say, the actual positions that are being wheeled out all week? You've got bigger fish to fry.

If you're pro-Trump, and left of center: You are a unicorn. You have better things to worry about than a dumb speech, like keeping your coat glossy.


There's no real outrage, even the pundits of the left positioned themselves to the stance that a speech writer should be fired. What's making it a story is the Trump campaign doubling down on Melania wrote it and that the similarities in the structure and words nearly verbatim. Nobody is really outraged so much as they're making the Trumps the butt of jokes today due to the direction they've taken.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-19 14:52:30
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Like I said, she humanizes Trump so she must be destroyed.
How does his third trophy wife humanize him?

Personally, I think his kids do a far better job of that.
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By fonewear 2016-07-19 14:54:19
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Trophy wife how dare you criticize my beloved Melania ! She is not a trophy wife she is a model/personality !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-19 14:54:35
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Like I said, she humanizes Trump so she must be destroyed.
How does his third trophy wife humanize him?

Personally, I think his kids do a far better job of that.


He better take them out for ice cream after tonight's event, like most American parents do when they bring their kids to vouch for them at a job interview.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-19 14:54:53
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Like I said, she humanizes Trump so she must be destroyed.
How does his third trophy wife humanize him?

Personally, I think his kids do a far better job of that.

Well, they're talking tonight. If they're lucky, they'll do a great job and not get any press.
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By fonewear 2016-07-19 14:55:12
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A trophy wife is Bill Clinton they just drag him out on stage to make Hillary look better !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-19 14:56:32
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Like I said, she humanizes Trump so she must be destroyed.
How does his third trophy wife humanize him?

Personally, I think his kids do a far better job of that.


He better take them out for ice cream after tonight's event, like most American parents do when they bring their kids to vouch for them at a job interview.

But do they get sprinkles?

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-19 14:58:10
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Only if they're gold leaf sprinkles,
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-07-19 15:07:09
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To be fair, I think his children are a mediocre indicator of him as a person. Most trust fund babies are dead of heroin overdoses at 22 or killing prostitutes for fun. The fact that his kids are filthy rich and not total douche canoes should mean something.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-07-19 15:08:04
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not total douche canoes

I'm assuming they're not for argument's sake, they may be for all I know.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-19 15:08:43
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Titanfoo said: »
Wow even the NYT and Washington Post are calling it plagiarism.
that's when you know you done fkd up.
Tell me why it maters.

Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Sheriff David Clark? Rudy Giuliani? Nobody seems to have a clue what they talked about, even though they gave some powerful speeches. It's all about NeverTrump and Melania.
I read all the speeches. And the fact checks on them. There are many more points to attack the other speechifiers on than Melania's plagiarism.

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Keeping your coat glossy, lol.
Wait! What happened to horn polishing?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-07-19 15:11:00
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Siren.Mosin said: »
To be fair, I think his children are a mediocre indicator of him as a person. Most trust fund babies are dead of heroin overdoses at 22 or killing prostitutes for fun. The fact that his kids are filthy rich and not total douche canoes should mean something.

They are the 1%!

Trump's kids don't register anything to me. They act and feel like standard rich heirs, out to do whatever rich heirs do and this whole campaign is one extended exercise in supporting your dad in his crazy loony dream you wish he'd just drop already.

They live in their world, we live in ours. The problem being that daddy has escaped into our world.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-07-19 15:14:06
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Yeah I guess if I could afford a tutor, nanny, and housekeeper, I could be a *** stick and the kids wouldn't notice. annnnnnndddddd I guess narcissism could lead one to hire those people in lieu of empathy / decency.

Wow I really flip flopped on that one fast. I could be a politician!
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