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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-23 09:22:38
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Actually a serious question: but if Lordgrim was already running this year, would you vote him over Clinton and Trump? lol

It wouldn't matter. The Warring Triad would be complete and the world would end.

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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-23 09:27:16
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Actually a serious question: but if Lordgrim was already running this year, would you vote him over Clinton and Trump? lol

It wouldn't matter. The Warring Triad would be complete and the world would end.

Only if you move them out of balance.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-23 09:38:13
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Actually a serious question: but if Lordgrim was already running this year, would you vote him over Clinton and Trump? lol

I probably shouldn't count because the less likely it is that trump will win, the more likely it is I will vote for him...Just to say that I did...

If hillary gets indicted and bernie keels over then I would vote for gary johnson
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 09:42:14
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Yeah but the meat and potatoes isn't really that she was fired, it is that she's a liar and unethical.
Replace the pronoun to he and you just described Trump, too.

In the 70's he discriminated against minorities renting from him (and his father) because he didn't want to any welfare recipients to live in his buildings.

Currently he is under investigation for fraud, he's been fined for violating anti-discrimination laws in the past, and many of his failed businesses were no better than pyramid schemes.

Anyone who labels one candidate a liar and unethical, needs to -in all honesty- label them both that way. This election is trying to choose between one polished piece of crap versus the other polished piece of crap.

Unlikely that trump has made his billions through lying and unethical behavior.

That path to success is reserved for politicians of which trump is not.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 09:44:02
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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it's only going to make life shittier.
What part of your life you wish will change through government action?
I take it you refuse to answer my question Nausi?

I don't want my life to change via government action.

I want government to get out of my life.
Then why do you keep asking it to interfere in other people's lives?

The problem with most small government proponents is that they want government to let them do whatever the hell they want but to still want them to reach out and stop others they don't agree with from doing what they want...

I'm all for smaller more compact and efficient government but in a way that's still fair for everyone not just a select number of people...

Oh this should be good. How have I asked government to interfere in the lives of others?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 09:47:33
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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How does them not liking him lead us to actually accomplishing something?
How foolish would it be for us to depend on the people rigging the system to fix it?
I'm not though... And all you have is rhetoric... You're as bad as Obama voters sailing their dreams for a better world on the promises of hope and change... You've given me no reason to think trump is going to be good for this country... You're relying on him being a party outsider but other than that all you have are punch lines delivered to you by people supporting him...

one only needs to look at trumps accomplishments to conclude that he is by far he most competent of any running for the job.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 09:49:27
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Seha said: »
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
it's only going to make life shittier.
What part of your life you wish will change through government action?
I take it you refuse to answer my question Nausi?

I don't want my life to change via government action.

I want government to get out of my life.
*sighs* Really you would rather reply with semantics..

What part of your life you wish will change through changes on government level?

I wish for free markets, less reguatory headaches, less identity politics, and lower taxes. All of which I will not get voting for Clinton.
 
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 09:55:10
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Identity politics have no bearing on your day to day life. But they do for others.

So removing that is asking the government to interfere in others lives.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-23 09:57:45
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
How have I asked government to interfere in the lives of others?
Being against civil marriage for homosexuals and abortion for women are prime examples.

Was it too close to your face to see it?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 10:01:19
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No hope for you raenil, there just is no reasoning in that statement.

One does not advocate for the use of government to interfere with people's lives BY advocating government gets out of their lives.
 
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:02:01
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Yeah but the meat and potatoes isn't really that she was fired, it is that she's a liar and unethical.
Replace the pronoun to he and you just described Trump, too.

In the 70's he discriminated against minorities renting from him (and his father) because he didn't want to any welfare recipients to live in his buildings.

Currently he is under investigation for fraud, he's been fined for violating anti-discrimination laws in the past, and many of his failed businesses were no better than pyramid schemes.

Anyone who labels one candidate a liar and unethical, needs to -in all honesty- label them both that way. This election is trying to choose between one polished piece of crap versus the other polished piece of crap.

Unlikely that trump has made his billions through lying and unethical behavior.

That path to success is reserved for politicians of which trump is not.
Why is it unlikely?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:04:01
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
How does them not liking him lead us to actually accomplishing something?
How foolish would it be for us to depend on the people rigging the system to fix it?
I'm not though... And all you have is rhetoric... You're as bad as Obama voters sailing their dreams for a better world on the promises of hope and change... You've given me no reason to think trump is going to be good for this country... You're relying on him being a party outsider but other than that all you have are punch lines delivered to you by people supporting him...

one only needs to look at trumps accomplishments to conclude that he is by far he most competent of any running for the job.
Based on what? You've provided no specifics... All you've said is he is the best qualified or that because he is hated he will be the best... You've provided nothing at all of substance... I mean literally nothing... Do you know this little about you're own preferred candidate?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 10:04:23
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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How have I asked government to interfere in the lives of others?
Being against civil marriage for homosexuals and abortion for women are prime examples.

Was it too close to your face to see it?

Abortion is murder.
The government should not have any influence on the relationships between consenting adults.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:05:05
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Seha said: »
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it's only going to make life shittier.
What part of your life you wish will change through government action?
I take it you refuse to answer my question Nausi?

I don't want my life to change via government action.

I want government to get out of my life.
*sighs* Really you would rather reply with semantics..

What part of your life you wish will change through changes on government level?

I wish for free markets, less reguatory headaches, less identity politics, and lower taxes. All of which I will not get voting for Clinton.
You won't get any f that voting for trump either...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 10:05:35
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-23 10:06:07
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Seha said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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it's only going to make life shittier.
What part of your life you wish will change through government action?
I take it you refuse to answer my question Nausi?

I don't want my life to change via government action.

I want government to get out of my life.
*sighs* Really you would rather reply with semantics..

What part of your life you wish will change through changes on government level?

I wish for free markets, less reguatory headaches, less identity politics, and lower taxes. All of which I will not get voting for Clinton.
You won't get any f that voting for trump either...

So what am I gonna get with Clinton?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:06:41
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How have I asked government to interfere in the lives of others?
Being against civil marriage for homosexuals and abortion for women are prime examples.

Was it too close to your face to see it?

Abortion is murder.
The government should not have any influence on the relationships between consenting adults.
It s not murder... That's you arguing with your feelings... Scientifically and legally it has not been considered murder and it has been legal...

You and I may disagree with the practice for sure but that does not make it murder... You feel that it is...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:07:39
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
There are Americans that are Muslims... I still don't know f you comprehend this...
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:07:43
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I tell you what murder is reading this last page of posts !
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-23 10:08:03
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Abortion is murder.
It is not.
No more than my menstrual cycle.

Stay tuned for Monthly Killers™.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:08:35
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Seha said: »
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it's only going to make life shittier.
What part of your life you wish will change through government action?
I take it you refuse to answer my question Nausi?

I don't want my life to change via government action.

I want government to get out of my life.
*sighs* Really you would rather reply with semantics..

What part of your life you wish will change through changes on government level?

I wish for free markets, less reguatory headaches, less identity politics, and lower taxes. All of which I will not get voting for Clinton.
You won't get any f that voting for trump either...

So what am I gonna get with Clinton?
Not much of anything different than you'd get now...
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 10:08:59
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No hope for you raenil, there just is no reasoning in that statement.

One does not advocate for the use of government to interfere with people's lives BY advocating government gets out of their lives.
Historically, in the United States, people have been really shitty to people who aren't straight white males.

The government offers protections to these people of different identities.

You have two guesses how things would go without those protections.
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:09:34
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Remember when this thread was about Trump...me either !
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-23 10:10:30
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I think you seem to forget I'm not arguing for Clinton... Not even a little bit... You're arguing for trump and the best you've put up to convince others is that hey nooone likes him in dc and he's not Hillary... Awesome qualifications to be president mhmm...
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:11:19
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Abortion is murder.
It is not.
No more than my menstrual cycle.

Stay tuned for Monthly Killers™.

My response:


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