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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 09:48:30
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »It's really chilling that none of you that oppose Trump even batted an eye when someone tried to kill him again. It's time to do some soul searching.
I hear you and I agree, the media has been encouraging anyone to shoot Trump yet everyone is thinking it's ok. And your right this did happen they guy tried to pull a cops gun to shoot trump. The brainwashing media is clearly working setting up Televised hits to encourage action. What brand of tinfoil do you use for your hats?
I don't wear hats friend i strongly suggest you look up the multiple media outlets that Call for Trump to be assassinated hell even Face Book refuses to take down the Request for Trump's Assassination.
It's ok to remove the blindfold that is covering your eyes. Why don't you show us where you are seeing this because none of the major media outlets are doing what you describe... I think you just need to seek help as you are seeing things that aren't there...
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-06-21 09:49:00
Nausi logic at its finest. Muslims immigrant = terrorist.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in nine countries.
Should we let any of those *** immigrate here? I think not.
islam and lgbt
Messed up logic, they are moving away from these countries. Moving away from the country but not always moving away from the traditions.
There are still Muslims in the UK trying to get Sharia Law implemented.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 09:51:03
Nausi logic at its finest. Muslims immigrant = terrorist.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in nine countries.
Should we let any of those *** immigrate here? I think not.
islam and lgbtSo what about people trying to escape that area? LGBT that don't want to get killed and just want to live free here? Should we leave them to die over there too? Also throwing this out there again... Not all Muslims are from that area or subscribe to that doctorine...
Hell we still have a problem here with people that violently oppose that lifestyle it's just not government enforced... Can we remove all of them from our society?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-21 09:51:09
That guy isn't an immigrant, he's born in New York. Come on.
His father was. And guess what?
Moving to america didn't magically change his mind to our way of thinking.
So guess how he raised his son....
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-21 09:52:05
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic.
Source for this? Or do you just assume every murderer that isn't Muslim is a devout practicing Christian? I don't believe raenil realizes he would be a bigot in that case.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 09:53:19
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-21 09:54:44
Hell we still have a problem here with people that violently oppose that lifestyle it's just not government enforced... Can we remove all of them from our society?
I want to chemically sterilize everyone on the planet and end the human race... so I am probably the wrong person to ask.
but as you stated we already have plenty of ***, let's assume we can't remove them but why add more?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-21 09:55:25
Shirori your absolutely right he was not a immigrant but his mother and father were and he is a anchor baby just like those two brothers responsible for the Boston bombing who were also Muslim as well and both had motives for middle eastern conflict that the US is still in.
The question is how many other radical Muslim anchor babies are waiting.
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 09:57:08
Can we not pretend there aren't extremist Christian factions/leaders praising these murders as a good thing?
Because there are.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-21 09:57:20
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
So now you're equating not baking a gay couple a wedding cake as a hate crime perpetuated by Christians while at the same time ignoring the tens of not hundreds of millions of Muslims who want to kill gay people for being gay?
Refusing to endorse someone's lifestyle by not baking them a cake for their wedding is not a hate crime, gunning down people is.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 09:58:13
That guy isn't an immigrant, he's born in New York. Come on.
His father was. And guess what?
Moving to america didn't magically change his mind to our way of thinking.
So guess how he raised his son.... And how many immigrants have turn out that way? Of the thousands of people that are murdered, assaulted, raped etc... How many of them are due to religious extremism?
People rag on others for using single gun events as a reason to ban them ludicrous because the majority of gun owners are responsible and the like... Yet turn around and use isolated events to crucify an entire group of people. What about the responsible people? Should we just throw them out too cuz you know me day they might turn on us too!
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 09:58:31
The question is how many other radical Muslim anchor babies are waiting.
It's not a religion problem. That's thinking too small.
It's a human problem.
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 09:58:59
So now you're equating not baking a gay couple a wedding cake as a hate crime perpetuated by Christians while at the same time ignoring the tens of not hundreds of millions of Muslims who want to kill gay people for being gay?
Refusing to endorse someone's lifestyle by not baking them a cake for their wedding is not a hate crime, gunning down people is.
Or they both are, just of obviously greatly varying degrees...
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By Sylph.Dravidian 2016-06-21 09:59:53
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
Can people of that community receive the same services elsewhere or are whatever Christian (since there is so many) rights being infringed upon just because to prove a point? Is it a vocal majority or minority? Do you just hate them all regardless?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-21 10:00:22
Can we not pretend there aren't extremist Christian factions/leaders praising these murders as a good thing?
Because there are. He numbers here just don't add up. However many people you could point to to make your point does not compare to the tens of not hundreds of million of devout Muslims that share a sympathetic view on "killing gays because they're gay".
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 10:01:14
Hell we still have a problem here with people that violently oppose that lifestyle it's just not government enforced... Can we remove all of them from our society?
I want to chemically sterilize everyone on the planet and end the human race... so I am probably the wrong person to ask.
but as you stated we already have plenty of ***, let's assume we can't remove them but why add more? It's our right to be *** here isn't it? Why not throw a bit more into the mix? Isn't that our way and all?
Besides we can go get as many guns as we like to protect ourselves from any threat!
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-21 10:01:15
That's a legitimate opinion, just because you don't like it doesn't make it 'trolling'. Sadly, that's the main reason I haven't topic banned him. I usually get a second opinion before stuff like that. :/
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 10:03:40
Hey, you don't need to convince me. If I had my way we'd ban extremists of all religions from the country.
And if we're defining "extremist" in this discussion as "wanting to get rid of gays," well then.
Please get rid of any and all Christians, Muslims, and anyone else who thinks that gay people are a problem by simply existing in their country and that killing them even might be a "not bad" solution.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 10:03:54
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
So now you're equating not baking a gay couple a wedding cake as a hate crime perpetuated by Christians while at the same time ignoring the tens of not hundreds of millions of Muslims who want to kill gay people for being gay?
Refusing to endorse someone's lifestyle by not baking them a cake for their wedding is not a hate crime, gunning down people is. Where do you get this tens of not hundreds of millions that are all out to kill gays?
And you're sorely mistaken if you think gays have not faced religious persecution here and while the issues are getting better how can you say it's a good environment when Christianity claims their faith puts them in direct conflict with homosexuality?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 10:04:58
Can we not pretend there aren't extremist Christian factions/leaders praising these murders as a good thing?
Because there are. He numbers here just don't add up. However many people you could point to to make your point does not compare to the tens of not hundreds of million of devout Muslims that share a sympathetic view on "killing gays because they're gay".
[Mod Edit: Fixed quote - AnnaMolly] You don't have any actually numbers that are factual beyond you just saying actual numbers.
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By Shiva.Eboneezer 2016-06-21 10:05:31
Messed up logic, they are moving away from these countries.
Only to escape the civil wars going on in their own country. They have zero desire to immigrate to America and live by our laws/standards. They just want out of the war zone.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 10:07:09
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
Can people of that community receive the same services elsewhere or are whatever Christian (since there is so many) rights being infringed upon just because to prove a point? Is it a vocal majority or minority? Do you just hate them all regardless? So you're saying that just because these people are different they should have to go elsewhere? So gays get treated differently and that's alright with you?
Personally I think businesses of any sort should be able to deny service for any reason unless it's something like water or power.. But then you're left to deal with the following support and dissent from your actions...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-21 10:07:39
Messed up logic, they are moving away from these countries.
Only to escape the civil wars going on in their own country. They have zero desire to immigrate to America and live by our laws/standards. They just want out of the war zone. And you know this how? Psychic powers?
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-21 10:07:44
Your family is significantly more likely to be blown away by some random natural born white Christian than it is by a Muslim immigrant.
Or literally any other racial/religious demographic. Liberal logic at its finest. Is ok to bring in terrorists because of "fairness". It's more like... If a Christian kills someone in this country do you ban all of them from entering?
Not all Muslims come from war torn areas where terrorism is present and there are already millions upon millions of Muslims living in this country peacefullY.
You mock fairness when you already illogically support something that is just wrong... its kind of ironic because it just like accusing Dems of fear controlling them over guns and your fear controls you on this topic making you even more paranoid and illogical...
Is there a section of Christianity that advocates throwing gay people off of buildings? If so do we have any data on how many Christians subscribe to it?
Meanwhile we have data that illuminates the abrasive attitudes towards gays within the Muslim faith. They number in the millions, 8-9 figures. How can you simply ignoring that data? Are you kidding me? We have hate crimes against the lgbt community in the states all the time... There's still a big problem specifically with trans people getting abused... Christians here can barely be bothered to service gays commercially because it appearently violates their faith for them to be together...
So now you're equating not baking a gay couple a wedding cake as a hate crime perpetuated by Christians while at the same time ignoring the tens of not hundreds of millions of Muslims who want to kill gay people for being gay?
Refusing to endorse someone's lifestyle by not baking them a cake for their wedding is not a hate crime, gunning down people is. Where do you get this tens of not hundreds of millions that are all out to kill gays?
And you're sorely mistaken if you think gays have not faced religious persecution here and while the issues are getting better how can you say it's a good environment when Christianity claims their faith puts them in direct conflict with homosexuality?
I think your highly blowing things out of proportion. I go to Church every week in a catholic church and not once have I ever heard a thing about killing gays or abusing them. your time frame is a little out of whack.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 10:08:26
live by our laws/standards.
Laws are plainly posted and easy to find, at least in regard to what you're referencing.
But what "standards" are you referencing?
We've got a lot of "standards" that are utter ***. Luckily, they're also entirely unenforceable by law and, therefore, you and I -- and any immigrants that are willing to abide by the laws -- are free to piss all over those ignorant, backward "standards."
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 10:10:16
I think your highly blowing things out of proportion. I go to Church every week in a catholic church and not once have I ever heard a thing about killing gays or abusing them. your time frame is a little out of whack.
Probably because Catholics are actually pretty moderate on the "do something about this" scale. They frown upon homosexuality in theory but are some of the best -- in general -- about letting God handle things when it's time. Which is praiseworthy, because that's what the Book says to do.
There are some rather vehement fundamental protestants, however, who disagree.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-21 10:10:30
live by our laws/standards.
Laws are plainly posted and easy to find, at least in regard to what you're referencing.
But what "standards" are you referencing?
We've got a lot of "standards" that are utter ***. Luckily, they're also entirely unenforceable by law and, therefore, you and I -- and any immigrants that are willing to abide by the laws -- are free to piss all over those ignorant, backward "standards."
When I see standards I think of the golden rule and such. Not sure what your thinking of but by my standards it would be like help your fellow man and stuff like that. Be kind, don't hate.
By Ramyrez 2016-06-21 10:12:06
Sorry, that link isn't working for me now, here's another.
Quote: US TV network NBC is cutting ties with Donald Trump over "recent derogatory statements" that the veteran businessman made about immigrants.
NBC said the company would now not be airing the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants that are co-owned by Mr Trump.
Responding to the announcement, Mr Trump said he would consider suing NBC.
Earlier this month, he accused Mexicans of adding drugs and crime to the US as he announced he was seeking the Republican presidential nomination.
"They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some I assume are good people, but I speak to border guards, and they tell us what we are getting," he said in his speech on 16 June.
He also pledged to build a "great wall" on the US border with Mexico and insisted it would be paid for by Mexicans.
He later insisted he was criticising US lawmakers, not Mexican people.
I'm honestly surprised with some of the shit he says. Even though I probably shouldn't be.
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